Poll: Enough is enough!

[Souplex]

Gamer-Pelosi. (The Clinton/Nancy Pelosi sex-scandal)

Wait, is there another Clinton sex scandal I'm unaware of? Or did you mean to call it Gamer-Lewinski?

I did. Thank you.

yes yes yes this is a pet hate of mine

"pelosi" sounds the coolest so let's go with that

I kind of like "Gamer-Pelosi". Sounds sort of like "Gamerpalooza" but much worse...

The logical part of me says _Pelosi because there's a sex scandal involved in some way or something.

Sorry, there was a slight mix up. It should have been Gamer-Lewinsky.
My apologies to Congresswoman Nancy Pelosi.
As far as I'm aware you've never been a part of a Clinton sex-scandal.

 

[Zen Bard]

My apologies to Congresswoman Nancy Pelosi.
As far as I'm aware you've never been a part of a Clinton sex-scandal.

Some might argue her entire time in The House has been a bit of a scandal...

 

[balladbird]

I can't speak for others, I assure you, but for myself, I don't want the "-gate" suffix to end just yet...

...Not until an argument erupts between disgruntled landscapers regarding the most ideal decoration for the entrance to a property, resulting in the universe-ending "#gategate".

 

[Vault101]

"GamerPeopleAreTooDamnStubbornToEvenConsiderBothSides?"

that would imply "both sides" have something valid to say...a notion I find to be untrue most of the time

or maybe we shouldn't break this off into "sides" at all...

 

[Shamanic Rhythm]

Sometimes I like to imagine alternate history where the Watergate Hotel was called the Waterhole Hotel, and thus history would have borne witness to the scandalous events of ContraHole, ZipperHole, HackHole, BridgeHole, NippleHole, TrooperHole, and last but definitely not least, WeinerHole.

 

[davidmc1158_v1legacy]

Sometimes I like to imagine alternate history where the Watergate Hotel was called the Waterhole Hotel, and thus history would have borne witness to the scandalous events of ContraHole, ZipperHole, HackHole, BridgeHole, NippleHole, TrooperHole, and last but definitely not least, WeinerHole.

I can feel the strain on the space-time continuum even now. Wait! Why do I hear the piping of flutes?

Oh, hey there Azathoth! Good to see you again. We were just discussing a level of madness comparable to your court bubbling blasphemously at the center of reality! How are the kids?

 

[Neverhoodian]

"GamerPeopleAreTooDamnStubbornToEvenConsiderBothSides?"

that would imply "both sides" have something valid to say...a notion I find to be untrue most of the time

I feel It's important to at least look into opposing viewpoints so you can see where they're coming from. Doesn't mean you have to automatically accept it.

Unless you're talking about arguing with the "lunatic fringes" of an issue, in which case I would point out that they aren't the majority in most instances. Just the loudest and most obnoxious.

 

[Vault101]

I feel It's important to at least look into opposing viewpoints so you can see where they're coming from. Doesn't mean you have to automatically accept it.

Unless you're talking about arguing with the "lunatic fringes" of an issue, in which case I would point out that they aren't the majority in most instances. Just the loudest and most obnoxious.

that is true

I think however that people are too quick to assume that every issue has a "middle ground" that should automatically be stuck too because its assumed to be "correct"

 

[Souplex]

Maybe it was that Zoey (Zoe, Zoe with an accent mark over the E? I can't be bothered to find the correct spelling) Quinn story, maybe it was something else. I don't particularly care.

Zoë... that's Alt+09963 (type the numbers on a keypad while holding down alt).

Might not make a difference to most people, but it's kind of a big deal to those of us who are named Zoë.

OT: How about Gamer-Butt. That's for all the instances of "Okay, we have 'proof' that [fill-in-name] supposedly wasn't lying, but they (this), and but they're (this too), and but they did (that), so I don't believe this 'proof' is real." Pretty much saying "but(tocks)" to any info that doesn't fit their pre-conceived notions despite mountain ranges of evidence to the contrary.

*Attempts to type*
Nothing.
We need to come together and standardize one spelling of Zoe. I vote for Zoe because I don't need to type any damn accent marks.

 

[SmallHatLogan]

I'm all for a name change since nothing that has been named with gate has ever been as relevant or interesting as the Watergate scandal was. I like Gamer-Lewinsky since this whole business has been about as trivial as the former president's sex life.

 

[Jesterscup]

This is the first thread that I've posted on about it because A) Thank buggery for something light-hearted and B) because I can actually understand what people are talking about in this one. That probably makes me sound like a dullard, but oh well.

Thats really a shame if you missed the whole conversation about the feasibility of chainmail loinclothes!

I'm rather against tis labelling of stuff to make nice soundbites, why not call it the "games industry journalistic corruption scandal" ok a bit long, but you're being rather clear about things there...

 

[AVATAR_RAGE]

Use the noun "gate" as a suffix tends to refer to a discussion, with a somewhat political or ethical spin, and no clear source of right or wrong. More often than not the event that begins the "-gate" is placed on the back lines as further discussions are opened up. It gives the discussion more of a conspiracy feel with a lot of vaguely related threads.

I point you toward donglegate and pastagate for further reading.

 

[Ambitiousmould]

Isn't gate more of a reference to the journalist investigator, their prowess and skills and that no one else could have found out what Reegan was up to except them.

Watergate was named for the complex. Its use as a scandal suffix, far as I'm aware simply refers to one of the biggest US political scandal. The fact that it's thrown around so haphazardly is evidence that any meaning it might have had is significantly degraded.

I think the following sketch from That Mitchell and Webb Look seems like a relevant and comedic way to shine some light on the slightly confusing use of the term.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vB9JgxhXW5w

 

[DoPo]

"GamerPeopleAreTooDamnStubbornToEvenConsiderBothSides?"

that would imply "both sides" have something valid to say...a notion I find to be untrue most of the time

Which reminds me of Both Sides


And yeah, the debates do actually look like this sometimes. Only without, erm, the arbitration.

Yes, they do. The reason is, they are ducks. That's why you can't see them IRL but only on the Internet - that's how they hide their true identity.

Kind of like how fake gamer girls are actually organised ferrets?

That's what the "fake" in the name refers to.

 

[Something Amyss]

Indeed. There are literally no girl gamers. Even the ferrets pretending to be girls are male.

I feel It's important to at least look into opposing viewpoints so you can see where they're coming from. Doesn't mean you have to automatically accept it.

Unless you're talking about arguing with the "lunatic fringes" of an issue, in which case I would point out that they aren't the majority in most instances. Just the loudest and most obnoxious.

The problem is people are considered to not consider both sides even when they've looked at both sides and simply don't agree with one. Or agree with neither. The "both sides" mentality tends to be bred from the Fox News, "fair and balanced" tactic of painting people who disagree as the enemy. If you don't agree Quinn is a horrible slut who needs to pay, you're a SJW/feminist scum. If you believe there is something wrong in this whole thing, you're a misogynist MRM and get your fedora out of here.

On YouTube, I've been recently called both a feminazi and a MRA because my opinions on things are...Well, nuanced. Hell, I got hate messages for agreeing with someone that the draft was sexist. Apparently, I didn't agree hard enough?

Most of the time, people aren't going to see "both sides" as equal. This attempt to force parity between them is a larger issue, as it tends to breed and us and them mentality. This isn't even about the "lunatic fringe" anymore, unless you broaden the definition. It's definitely not anyone, but I wouldn't call this mentality a fringe one anymore.

But then, in some cases, the entire thing seems to be fringe. The bulk of the Quinnspiracy was based on conspiracy theory logic, if not an outright conspiracy theory. I can consider that side, but I am yet to see any evidence sufficient to take them out of truther/anti-vaxx territory.

 

[Souplex]

\Almost as hilarious as that guy from New York that closed a bridge because and caused traffic chaos for the area of another politician that wouldn't support him (although I guess the Canadian guy got more to eat at home right?), why cant gaming have scandals like those guys?

The guy who closed the bridge was from New Jersey, it was just that the bridge was how people escaped from New Jersey to get to New York.
No New Yorker has ever had a moral failing.

 

[TheRiddler]

Can't we just name it something boring? The Quinn Kerfuffle? Or, if the word kerfuffle bothers you, replace with "Incident", "Event", "Scandal" or even "Clusterfuck". I mean, seriously, enough with the goddamn "-gate" suffix. And #GamerGate is dumb (in terms of naming conventions). Are we assuming that there will never be a second gamer-related scandal? What will we call that one? #GamerGate2?

...

You know, as long as this thread's basically going to be us putting the word "gamer" into various scandals, I'm going to nominate "The XYG Affair" and "Gamerghazi".

 

[SmallHatLogan]

Can't we just name it something boring? The Quinn Kerfuffle? Or, if the word kerfuffle bothers you, replace with "Incident", "Event", "Scandal" or even "Clusterfuck". I mean, seriously, enough with the goddamn "-gate" suffix. And #GamerGate is dumb (in terms of naming conventions). Are we assuming that there will never be a second gamer-related scandal? What will we call that one? #GamerGate2?

No, it'll just get called GamerGate again. You know what games are like. Constant reboots with the same name as the original.

 

[TheMysteriousGX]

GamerGate: Revengeance: The Reckoning: Overdrive, Tournament Edition Alpha

Although ever since I heard it, "Fustercluck" has been my go to.