Poll: Escapist: Can you drive a Manual?

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mitchell271

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Yeah, I can, but I prefer automatic. Sure, manual gives me more control but I don't drive at a level where I need to have that much control.
 

DefunctTheory

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shootthebandit said:
- faster, you can decide to change gear when you hit the red line for optimum speed
- more economical, you can decide to change gear at much lower revs
- more control, automatics terrify me when im on a hill. How do I trust it without a clutch
- cheaper, a similar car with an auto box is a lot more expensive and again more expensive to service

Advantages to an auto:

- laziness
Manuals
- Why does speed matter when most road systems have speed limits far below what your vehicle can manage?
- I suppose you mean 'fuel effecient.' if that's your argument, then we should all switch to CVTs, which have been shown to have an advantage over manuals in many vehicles. It should also be noted that manuals do not always have better gas mileage - some cars are starting to come out with automatic transmissions that beat out their manuals in gas mileage.
- If automatics on hills scares a person, they are scaredy cat with no courage and about a third of the spine of a normal man. Which is as legitimate as the blanket 'Automatic transmissions are for the lazies' assumption you seem to be making.
- The price of automatic transmissions continues to drop (or stay level), even as they get better and more sophisticated. And this isn't even entirely true, if you want to be fair - Cheap manual transmissions are cheaper then automatics. The more elaborate manuals are retardly expensive.

Autos
-Impressive tower, Ivory Wizard

All of which doesn't mean autos are better then manuals, of course. Only that your elitism, while hilarious, is unfounded and blind.

Also...

Automatic Advantage

- Can play thumb war with passenger completely uninterrupted from beginning location to destination.
- Leaves hand free to flip the bird at fellow motorist while performing complicated swerving maneuvers at variable speed.
- Leaves hand free to pass objects to/hold hands with/fondle passenger.
 
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Nope. Here in the US most cars are automatic. Never cared or had a reason to learn. All I need my car for is to get to/from work, so yeah.

Besides, I hate driving anyway. The last thing I'd want to do is learn something that gets me more involved with it. Seems like too much added stress to an already stressful activity. But that's just me.
 

evenest

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I've driven one just about every day for the last twenty years. Good luck getting the feel for your clutch. Once you've got it, you'll be just fine. If you know how to drive one well, whether you are on a steep hill or level ground, you should have little to no roll-back. Welcome to the Club.
 

CpT_x_Killsteal

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although I'm still only on my learners, I can drive both pretty easily.
My dad taught me how to ride a motorbike when I was a kid, so I got the hang of manuals quite easily.

The difference between manuals and autos is this:
Auto > Manual: You know how you take your foot off the accelerator for a moment and it changes gear automatically? in addition to that, you have to hold down the clutch and move the stick, which has the advantages of you choosing what gear you want, and can save fuel.
Manual > Auto: This'll be easy. Instead of using the clutch and the stick, just ease your foot off the accelerator when you hear the revs going up, and you'll shift upwards. Ease off when the revs are low, and you'll go down a gear
 

Saulkar

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Since I drive a motorcycle I am forced to drive manual anyways, and I love it!
 

Something Amyss

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I can, but it's really not safe for me to do so. My hands mirror one another, and shifting while a vehicle is in gear runs the risk of my other hand jerking the wheel, even when concentrating. I have managed to find workarounds to many issues this causes, but if I couldn't drive an automatic, I would probably never get behind the wheel.
 

Thurston

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Manual car. Taught by my folks, so I can drive anything. I think I remember a cartoon, "The American Anti-Theft Device." Proven true here. Take that, ya whippersnappers!
 
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I learned how to do it, but I see no point to it so I still drive automatic 100% of the time.

Gas mileage isn't that much better and I can easily afford the difference and for me, driving is something that's relaxing and enjoyable, not something I want to have to stress about.

Kind of surprised at the level of European elitism in this thread. Ah well, I guess you owe us a few for that whole LIBERTY AMERICA FREEDOM FUCK YER thing.
 

shootthebandit

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AccursedTheory said:
Manuals
- Why does speed matter when most road systems have speed limits far below what your vehicle can manage?
- I suppose you mean 'fuel effecient.' if that's your argument, then we should all switch to CVTs, which have been shown to have an advantage over manuals in many vehicles. It should also be noted that manuals do not always have better gas mileage - some cars are starting to come out with automatic transmissions that beat out their manuals in gas mileage.
- If automatics on hills scares a person, they are scaredy cat with no courage and about a third of the spine of a normal man. Which is as legitimate as the blanket 'Automatic transmissions are for the lazies' assumption you seem to be making.
- The price of automatic transmissions continues to drop (or stay level), even as they get better and more sophisticated. And this isn't even entirely true, if you want to be fair - Cheap manual transmissions are cheaper then automatics. The more elaborate manuals are retardly expensive.
- Speed matters to certain people. Also if I need to accelerate quickly you can down shift or even go down 2 gears for optimal speed. This is important as a lot of the UK is country roads where you need to accelerate quickly when you get to a straight as you dont get many chances. My commute to work is full of tractors and lorries which you ideally need some decent acceleration to pass
- I tell a lie. Manuals can be less efficient but you have more control on how efficient it is. If you change up early and stay in a high gear you can get really good MPG
- It doesnt exactly scare me its just that you feel as if you dont have as much control as you do with a clutch.
- In general (at least in the UK) automatics are expensive compared to the equivalent manual box

Autos
-Impressive tower, Ivory Wizard

All of which doesn't mean autos are better then manuals, of course. Only that your elitism, while hilarious, is unfounded and blind.
I wouldn't say I was elitist. I just prefer a manual

Also...

Automatic Advantage

- Can play thumb war with passenger completely uninterrupted from beginning location to destination.
- Leaves hand free to flip the bird at fellow motorist while performing complicated swerving maneuvers at variable speed.
- Leaves hand free to pass objects to/hold hands with/fondle passenger.
You cant do this in a manual because? In a manual you dont change gear all the time. You change gear when the road changes (e.g a bend, a junction etc)
 

Zontar

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I can drive manual, but I don't like it. Doesn't matter, used car I own is an automatic (in fact the transmission is literally the only part of it which is automatic, everything ELSE is manual). It's the starting which gets me, hate starting a manual.
 

Kaymish

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i can drive manual ... badly almost every car here is an auto and you have to go way out of your way and pay a small fortune to find a manual because they are far more expensive to get or get a truck
 

VanQ

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I've been riding motorcycles since I was a kid and pretty close to 100% of all motorcycles are manual so making the transition to a manual car was a no brainer when I learned how to drive. I honestly can't stand automatics. They don't have that precision control you need to make every turn and hill start as smooth as butter.

Of course, there are people in manuals that don't use their gears correctly, taking a turn at 60km/hr in 4th gear is not clever, and gearing down incorrectly is gonna cost you a lot of dosh when you have to get a service. And there's always those people that can't manage a hill start to save their lives but a good driver will always have a better experience driving in a manual than an automatic.
 

Augustine

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I was taught driving with stick shift...
But once I tried auto, I will never use manual, unless my life depends on it.

Had buddy of mine purchase stick shifter recently, despite my urging not to - now he regrets his stubbornness. I can't think of one reason to prefer manual, aside from plain vanity.

If you see a guy stall out in the middle of the intersection - you better believe that he's driving stickshift.
 

Souplex

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*Takes the instruction manual out of a game box*
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I can not drive a manual.
*Actually reads the OP*
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I can't drive.
At all.
I can shift gears on my bike.
 

Harleykin

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i drive stick and i prefer it too.
in germany it's basically the default too but here and there are a few automatics driving around.
but i only had bad experiences with automatics compared to a stick.
i like putting the pedal down and if i'm driving an automatic i always feel like "damn it's reving up so much ...i would have shifted gears along time ago *click**barley any power* ugh..."
and the autobahn get's more exciting and fun (to me that is) you are cruising behind a truck a gap opens up shift 1 gear down and blast off :D
 

RedDeadFred

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I learned to drive on a standard and still use it for the majority of my driving excursions. I can't remember the last time I stalled, it's been so long. I think the way to tell if you're competent with standard is if you can drive in bumper to bumper, stop and go traffic, while driving up hill. If you can make it through that without stalling, you're set for just about any situation. Then you start figuring out the optimal shifting times for your specific vehicle.

Anyway, I actually enjoy driving stick quite a bit and find it more fun than automatic.
 

Jamieson 90

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I'm from the UK and I drive automatic - GOSH! I know! My thought process was kind of like this. "So, you can let the car change gear for you and people still do it the hard way? Yeah no thanks.... Seriously why are people so determined to make it harder for themselves? I get there is a macho culture about driving the 'right way', but to me a car has only ever been something that will get me from A - B, and having an automatic is a godsend in stop start rush hour traffic. Yeah I think this is something our American brothers got right.
 

EHKOS

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Never touched one. At first I thought it would be cool to have a car that had one, but since I'm 21 and still trying for my license in an automatic, I believe I would instantly hate them with a passion.

I have bad concentration and situation awareness, I don't need to deal with a third pedal and second gauge. In fact I'm quite sure I couldn't.

American btw.
 

Nomad

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shootthebandit said:
- Speed matters to certain people. Also if I need to accelerate quickly you can down shift or even go down 2 gears for optimal speed. This is important as a lot of the UK is country roads where you need to accelerate quickly when you get to a straight as you dont get many chances. My commute to work is full of tractors and lorries which you ideally need some decent acceleration to pass
- I tell a lie. Manuals can be less efficient but you have more control on how efficient it is. If you change up early and stay in a high gear you can get really good MPG
- It doesnt exactly scare me its just that you feel as if you dont have as much control as you do with a clutch.
- In general (at least in the UK) automatics are expensive compared to the equivalent manual box

You cant do this in a manual because? In a manual you dont change gear all the time. You change gear when the road changes (e.g a bend, a junction etc)
If you need to accelerate quickly with an automatic transmission, you put your foot down harder on the gas pedal. The car will shift down on its own. If anything, it's more intuitive than with a manual transmission - want to go faster? Pedal to the metal!

As for the control, that's just because you're used to manual transmission. You have the same practical control with an automatic transmission, you just have to use the break and gas pedals rather than the clutch. I suspect automatic drivers feel the same way in reverse about manual transmissions.

Also, to be fair, you can't play an uninterrupted thumb war with manual transmission. Not that I'd advise doing so with an automatic either, though.

For the record, I currently drive an automatic, but have no issues with manuals. I do find automatic transmissions more comfortable, just like anything else that's automatic. The less I have to do manually in anything the better.