Poll: Everything Exists.

[JesterRaiin]

As noted above, ohysical laws work equally in all the Universe

Please remind me, when was the last time we proved that ANY of our physical laws work inside of Black Hole ?

 

[DRes82]

Our universe by itself isn't large enough to say that everything would exist in it under the theory of infinite probability. However, if you believe that there are an infinite number of parallel universes such as the ones described in the brane world theory...then yes, everything allowed by physics could exist.

I think its a neat idea to think that we are separated by only a tiny fraction of an inch from another universe like our own.

 

[Naeo]

To start with, space is not infinite.

However, let's assume that it is. Let's assume an infinite expanse, and infinite amount of matter, and an infinite amount of energy. Even then, not everything needs to exist. For one there are limitations (because of physics and chemistry and such) that prohibit certain things/combinations from existing anywhere. Even that aside, there is no necessity that in an infinite sample pool, every possible option will be represented. It absolutely possible to have a sample size of, say, 10^1000 integers, randomly selected from the numbers zero through nine. You do not HAVE to have every number represented. It is incredibly unlikely that you will not get at least one of each number, but it is entirely possible. It is also entirely possible to draw only one number for every iteration of picking a number--you could end up with 10^1000 sixes.

It's not a particularly complex idea, but it's not immediately apparent. As you consider more and more arbitrary things, the chance that any one particular thing fall into that pool approached 1, but does not need to reach it if there is no limit to the number of things you can pick from to arbitrarily observe.

So, the monkey and typewriter thought experiment. You can in theory have an infinite number of monkeys typing on infinite typewriters forever. They may never produce any sort of sentence at all. The likelihood that they will produce any arbitrarily chosen string of text does approach 1, though, but it does not ever need to reach that.

A better example. If you have a coin and you flip it, you have a 1/2 chance of getting heads. If you flip it again, you still have a 1/2 chance of getting heads, and so on and so on. It is completely possible to get heads every time for 100 flips, and then for 1000 flips, and then 10000 flips, and so on and so on for any arbitrarily large number of flips. As you approach infinity, your likelihood of getting heads remains at 1/2 on any given flip, so you are no less likely to get heads than before, so you could go on never getting heads forever.

So in short: just because you have an infinite number of things, there is absolutely no way to argue that any given thing HAS to exist within that set of things. Therefore, the assertion that "the universe is infinite, therefore everything has to exist" is fundamentally flawed above and beyond the assumption of an infinite universe.

 

[kurokotetsu]

As noted above, ohysical laws work equally in all the Universe

Please remind me, when was the last time we proved that ANY of our physical laws work inside of Black Hole ?

OK, not all, but all the observable universe (inside a black hole is not observable). Still, some laws like the speed of light being the limit speed in the universe (lets ingnore the CERN results for a moment), seem to work, as nothing seems to come out of a black hole, which if said law was broken, coudl happen, as some particules would have enough speed to escape the black hole (and gravity in it's relativistic conception seems to work for the same motives as it keeps atracting mater).

 

[Robert Sanders]

You seem to be under the impression that space is infinite. This is a plausibly false assumption.

You're thinking of the universe, which encompasses stars, planets, cosmic dust, etc. There is a finite amount of that, but the actual empty space around and in between everything would appear to be infinite.

 

[garjian]

if everything is possible, then a possibility that everything is impossible must be possible.
the only plausible truth is that everything is impossible.

 

[Davey Woo]

I don't think that everything exists, especially in terms of evolution/animals etc. I mean sure I can think of a rhino with wings and rainbow-coloured skin. But in terms of evolution, that's completely impractical and so probably won't exist.

Also, about the monkeys/keyboards thing, scientists set up a computer (or possibly a load of computers) to choose random letters (emulating a monkey hitting a keyboard randomly) and it's been running for several years (I think) the furthest they managed so far was 12 words in a row that were correct.

 

[INeedAName]

How about a round square? Don't know how one would look like, but I know I would be mightily impressed did I ever see one.

 

[JesterRaiin]

As noted above, ohysical laws work equally in all the Universe

Please remind me, when was the last time we proved that ANY of our physical laws work inside of Black Hole ?

OK, not all

Exactly.

[ but all the observable universe (inside a black hole is not observable).

I'm not exactly sure when whole scientific world united and announced that it's impossible to observe interior of Black Hole and noone ever, to the end of time will try to accomplish this task ?
Could you kindly provide me with a citation ?

 

[Garrsus]

If space was infinite, then everything and everything would be happening at the same time, therefore there would be a counter-effect to every effect, therefore nothing would be happening.

Logic debunks your theory.

what? this logic seems broken to me, why would infinite space make everything happen?
infinite nothing wouldn't do anything other than be there.
it isn't a physical thing.

 

[go-10]

so a planet full of humanoid females that are somehow able to reproduce through tribadism is possible?

 

[Denamic]

The impossible is impossible by definition, hence not everything is possible.

 

[CrimsonBlaze]

"Nothing is impossible." --Master Oogway

[http://photobucket.com/images/master%20oogway]

 

[Ledan]

To the naysayers out there:
Our bubble of matter (usually called the universe) is expanding out into space, and there doesn't seem to be any boundaries to this space. Thus infinite space. Infinite space. And we know that our bubble originated from a big bang (probably). What are the odds, that this is the ONLY big bang in this infinite space? I would say.... 0.
So, with infinite space, and a (possible) infinite amount of "universes"(or big bangs) then anything and everything is possible .


Short comment: there are many big bangs out there. so anything is possible.

EDIT: don't know enough physics, so I don't know how we are expanding. But I still believe that there are several big bangs out there, an infinite amount of them.

 

[Kataskopo]

As noted above, ohysical laws work equally in all the Universe

Please remind me, when was the last time we proved that ANY of our physical laws work inside of Black Hole ?

From wikipedia:

"Work by James Bardeen, Jacob Bekenstein, Carter, and Hawking in the early 1970s led to the formulation of black hole thermodynamics.[28] These laws describe the behaviour of a black hole in close analogy to the laws of thermodynamics by relating mass to energy, area to entropy, and surface gravity to temperature. The analogy was completed when Hawking, in 1974, showed that quantum field theory predicts that black holes should radiate like a black body with a temperature proportional to the surface gravity of the black hole."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_hole

Took me 10 seconds.

 

[Lukeje]

You seem to be under the impression that space is infinite. This is a plausibly false assumption.

You're thinking of the universe, which encompasses stars, planets, cosmic dust, etc. There is a finite amount of that, but the actual empty space around and in between everything would appear to be infinite.

Not really. There's no real reason to believe that empty space can't be quantized at a small enough length scale.

 

[Kataskopo]

To the naysayers out there:
Our bubble of matter (usually called the universe) is expanding out into space, and there doesn't seem to be any boundaries to this space. Thus infinite space. Infinite space. And we know that our bubble originated from a big bang (probably). What are the odds, that this is the ONLY big bang in this infinite space? I would say.... 0.
So, with infinite space, and a (possible) infinite amount of "universes"(or big bangs) then anything and everything is possible .


Short comment: there are many big bangs out there. so anything is possible.

No no no, the universe is not expanding into anything. It's an intrinsic expansion, relative by the separation of the parts of the universe.

 

[NerdElf]

So, in theory, there can exist Cthulhu, flying camel spiders crossed with scorpions and a planet dominated by a humanoid race with their genitalia reversed between genders?
Also, planets with ghosts, planets with one thousand Hitlers, planets with Daleks.
I'd rather live on a planet filled with trees that grow hookers and plains filled with cocaine.
Anyway, godwin's law applied succesfully.