Poll: Evolution Yay or Nah?

[Mr Pantomime]

I honestly dont care about the whole debate. What does it lead to? We proved evolution is real. Yay, now what? Seems like such a pointless waste of time and resource.

What really bugs me is people who do accept evolution as a fact, even going as far to mock various theist groups, but havent actually read any research on the subject. Accepting evolution as indisputable fact because you heard that some scientist proved it at a science place with science is far more moronic that someone who believes that jesus existed and performed miracles because they spent 10 years researching the subject.

 

[English Stew]

I'm not sure what's more surprising:

That someone thought it was necessary to ask if the escapist, a community of tech nerds, liberal thinkers (in the same sense as liberal arts), and gamers pissed at "moral-crusaders," if they side with the church over science.

Or that there are at least 14 people that do.

 

[FernandoV]

I dont believe in evolution. Cause that means its just something I think. I have eyes and reason though, so saying I "believe" in evolution is innacurate.

Even if you believe in God, you can know evolution. But most god fearers dont understand the middle ground.

Did you post so you could display your edgy use of semantics? If their faith requires them to believe something other than evolution, or believe their god had some hand in evolution then that is their prerogative. Sure, they CAN believe in evolution if they wanted to, but it'd nobodies business if they don't.

 

[Vandenberg1]

Of course it exists, everything evolves.

Idkk... Humans evolved into smart creatures because frankly we suck other wise.. Chimps have the strength of 4 Arnolds combined..We have technology which makes evolution almost obsolete. Small things like thinner blood for better breathing in people who live in high altitude is an exception.

 

[webby]

They way i've heard of Evolution, it's basically saying everything has had to come from something else, creating an infinite chain of "So this came from this which came from this which came from this...", I just can't really see the concept of this having no start point. We came from bacteria? Where did that come from? Meteor? Where did that come from? Planet? Came from.... Etc. until we just can't go back any further.

Go back far enough and you reach "the big bang", although "where did the big bang come from?" is actually a damn interesting question with a variety of theories that I highly recommend people read.

Although the idea of life being on Earth is (for me at least) best explained by abiogenesis as opposed to seeding from a meteorite impact from another world. There is some very reliable fossil evidence to back up their theories and many papers published which have replicated some of the events that would occur to lead to these developments.

Saying it's an infinite loop to get to life on Earth/the universe is false, abiogenesis has that covered.

Accepting evolution as indisputable fact because you heard that some scientist proved it at a science place with science is far more moronic that someone who believes that jesus existed and performed miracles because they spent 10 years researching the subject.

No... no it isn't. There are many mathematical formulas and such that people have no idea about but that they use everyday. Even things like Pythagoras' Theorem lots of people will be able to quote and recite but couldn't actually prove. Saying that because you yourself haven't meticulously read the proof and have only been informed of the cliff notes from a reliable source means that it is more moronic to believe that as opposed to believing "it's just magic!" because you researched that is in itself a moronic belief.

 

[Saelune]

I dont believe in evolution. Cause that means its just something I think. I have eyes and reason though, so saying I "believe" in evolution is innacurate.

Even if you believe in God, you can know evolution. But most god fearers dont understand the middle ground.

Did you post so you could display your edgy use of semantics? If their faith requires them to believe something other than evolution, or believe their god had some hand in evolution then that is their prerogative. Sure, they CAN believe in evolution if they wanted to, but it'd nobodies business if they don't.

You seem to have some weird idea that religion is some quiet group who just sit in their corner minding themselves. Religion pushes their ways and beliefs and thinking on everyone. I choose to simply try pushing back. Maybe not the best method, but Ill be damned if Im learning creationism in my science class.

 

[Saelune]

They way i've heard of Evolution, it's basically saying everything has had to come from something else, creating an infinite chain of "So this came from this which came from this which came from this...", I just can't really see the concept of this having no start point. We came from bacteria? Where did that come from? Meteor? Where did that come from? Planet? Came from.... Etc. until we just can't go back any further.

Creationism, aka "God did it" is the same too essentially. Just a bit quicker to say. God made everything (including evil, but people ignore that)...but where did God come from?

 

[Reaper195]

I don't care, and find the need to know dumb. Focus on the future, that's were stuff is going to happen, not the past where things have already happened.

No, I don't think that about history. I am just honestly tired of religious/philosophical debates.

 

[FernandoV]

I dont believe in evolution. Cause that means its just something I think. I have eyes and reason though, so saying I "believe" in evolution is innacurate.

Even if you believe in God, you can know evolution. But most god fearers dont understand the middle ground.

Did you post so you could display your edgy use of semantics? If their faith requires them to believe something other than evolution, or believe their god had some hand in evolution then that is their prerogative. Sure, they CAN believe in evolution if they wanted to, but it'd nobodies business if they don't.

You seem to have some weird idea that religion is some quiet group who just sit in their corner minding themselves. Religion pushes their ways and beliefs and thinking on everyone. I choose to simply try pushing back. Maybe not the best method, but Ill be damned if Im learning creationism in my science class.

Oh, but you aren't, are you? No, YOUR RIGHT to believe what you like is defended. You're not some champion for the cause of evolution; rather than trying to infringe on the rights of people to believe what they like you should break the image of arrogant atheists and accept them for their beliefs, whether they accept you for yours.

 

[Saelune]

I dont believe in evolution. Cause that means its just something I think. I have eyes and reason though, so saying I "believe" in evolution is innacurate.

Even if you believe in God, you can know evolution. But most god fearers dont understand the middle ground.

Did you post so you could display your edgy use of semantics? If their faith requires them to believe something other than evolution, or believe their god had some hand in evolution then that is their prerogative. Sure, they CAN believe in evolution if they wanted to, but it'd nobodies business if they don't.

You seem to have some weird idea that religion is some quiet group who just sit in their corner minding themselves. Religion pushes their ways and beliefs and thinking on everyone. I choose to simply try pushing back. Maybe not the best method, but Ill be damned if Im learning creationism in my science class.

Oh, but you aren't, are you? No, YOUR RIGHT to believe what you like is defended. You're not some champion for the cause of evolution; rather than trying to infringe on the rights of people to believe what they like you should break the image of arrogant atheists and accept them for their beliefs, whether they accept you for yours.

Yeah yeah yeah. Same old song and dance. I decry religion for infringing on human rights and so forth, and that makes ME the bad guy. I dont like fighting religion. I really wish I did not even have to care about it. Now, Im not saying Im not doing the same thing as them...but if so, then im doing THE SAME THING AS THEM. Yet you arent yelling at them too now are you?

 

[Loonyyy]

I really hope that the OP gets banned. Starting troll threads about science in an attempt to get religious people to argue with scientific people is wrong. Very wrong. Science is not a matter of opinion, and religion is not a matter of science. Deal with it.

 

[Z of the Na'vi]

Evolution? Nope.

Digivolution? You bet!

 

[artanis_neravar]

Fun Fact!

Evolution and the world as presented by the Bible are wholly incompatible!

Christianity rests upon the noble sacrifice of Jesus to God, in order to atone for the ancestral original sin in the Garden of Eden. Jesus being God, and Adam and Eve having been made by the4 aforementioned all-knowing creator, so he sacrificed himself to himself for something that was his fault in the first place.

But I digress. If humanity did not originate with Adam and Eve, then this original sin was not comitted, and the whole business of knocking up a married woman so he could be nailed to a tree to make up for that original sin would be utterly pointless.

So if you beleive the Bible, you cannot accept evolution. Unless you only believe part of it. Which opens up a whole other can of martyrs.

Jesus was not making up for Original Sin, Jesus was cleaning all humans of every sin they had committed up to that point, thus allowing them into heaven.

 

[mOoEyThEcOw]

Fun Fact!

Evolution and the world as presented by the Bible are wholly incompatible!

Christianity rests upon the noble sacrifice of Jesus to God, in order to atone for the ancestral original sin in the Garden of Eden. Jesus being God, and Adam and Eve having been made by the4 aforementioned all-knowing creator, so he sacrificed himself to himself for something that was his fault in the first place.

But I digress. If humanity did not originate with Adam and Eve, then this original sin was not comitted, and the whole business of knocking up a married woman so he could be nailed to a tree to make up for that original sin would be utterly pointless.

So if you beleive the Bible, you cannot accept evolution. Unless you only believe part of it. Which opens up a whole other can of martyrs.

Jesus was not making up for Original Sin, Jesus was cleaning all humans of every sin they had committed up to that point, thus allowing them into heaven.

I'm not much of a religion expert (Though I intern'd at a Bible Software Company (They use genetic algorithms too! They even admit that it disprove creationism)). But if Jesus didn't die for original sin why don't we all just go to hell, and how come Christians always talk about Jesus as their savior.

Fun fact: Islam doesn't have original sin, they believe all people are good in nature by default.

 

[FernandoV]

I dont believe in evolution. Cause that means its just something I think. I have eyes and reason though, so saying I "believe" in evolution is innacurate.

Even if you believe in God, you can know evolution. But most god fearers dont understand the middle ground.

Did you post so you could display your edgy use of semantics? If their faith requires them to believe something other than evolution, or believe their god had some hand in evolution then that is their prerogative. Sure, they CAN believe in evolution if they wanted to, but it'd nobodies business if they don't.

You seem to have some weird idea that religion is some quiet group who just sit in their corner minding themselves. Religion pushes their ways and beliefs and thinking on everyone. I choose to simply try pushing back. Maybe not the best method, but Ill be damned if Im learning creationism in my science class.

Oh, but you aren't, are you? No, YOUR RIGHT to believe what you like is defended. You're not some champion for the cause of evolution; rather than trying to infringe on the rights of people to believe what they like you should break the image of arrogant atheists and accept them for their beliefs, whether they accept you for yours.

Yeah yeah yeah. Same old song and dance. I decry religion for infringing on human rights and so forth, and that makes ME the bad guy. I dont like fighting religion. I really wish I did not even have to care about it. Now, Im not saying Im not doing the same thing as them...but if so, then im doing THE SAME THING AS THEM. Yet you arent yelling at them too now are you?

Oh sorry about them, I'll have a talk with their parents as soon as..oh that's right. You're not a Christian telling an atheist he can't believe what he wants, you're an atheist saying Christians can't believe what they want. Grow up and stop going "But she started it!", I'm not your parent. Yea, you are the bad guy here, you like your right to believe what you like? They like their rights too. Don't be a hypocrite and expect only your beliefs to be valid.

 

[health-bar]

the question is not whether it exists, there is far too much information to discount that animals change to adapt to surroundings, and mutation and survival of the fittest etc. humans are no exception.

The real trouble starts to come when people say modern monkeys=humans circa 500,000 years ago or
things that seem to contradict with religious text or any basic belief.

unfortunately the overzealous pro evolutionists are as much to blame for the BILLIONS of goddamned retarded bullshit as the unmoving creationists and religious fanatics. The fanatics give religion a bad name, the evolutionists give science a bad name, and fuck-all happens as a result.

Both sides want total compliance and that isn't ever going to happen.

 

[artanis_neravar]

Fun Fact!

Evolution and the world as presented by the Bible are wholly incompatible!

Christianity rests upon the noble sacrifice of Jesus to God, in order to atone for the ancestral original sin in the Garden of Eden. Jesus being God, and Adam and Eve having been made by the4 aforementioned all-knowing creator, so he sacrificed himself to himself for something that was his fault in the first place.

But I digress. If humanity did not originate with Adam and Eve, then this original sin was not comitted, and the whole business of knocking up a married woman so he could be nailed to a tree to make up for that original sin would be utterly pointless.

So if you beleive the Bible, you cannot accept evolution. Unless you only believe part of it. Which opens up a whole other can of martyrs.

Jesus was not making up for Original Sin, Jesus was cleaning all humans of every sin they had committed up to that point, thus allowing them into heaven.

I'm not much of a religion expert (Though I intern'd at a Bible Software Company (They use genetic algorithms too! They even admit that it disprove creationism)). But if Jesus didn't die for original sin why don't we all just go to hell, and how come Christians always talk about Jesus as their savior.

Fun fact: Islam doesn't have original sin, they believe all people are good in nature by default.

Baptism. The entire point of Baptism is to erase the child (or new convert) of any sin that that committed while outside the fold of Christianity, including Original Sin.

 

[Saelune]

I dont believe in evolution. Cause that means its just something I think. I have eyes and reason though, so saying I "believe" in evolution is innacurate.

Even if you believe in God, you can know evolution. But most god fearers dont understand the middle ground.

Did you post so you could display your edgy use of semantics? If their faith requires them to believe something other than evolution, or believe their god had some hand in evolution then that is their prerogative. Sure, they CAN believe in evolution if they wanted to, but it'd nobodies business if they don't.

You seem to have some weird idea that religion is some quiet group who just sit in their corner minding themselves. Religion pushes their ways and beliefs and thinking on everyone. I choose to simply try pushing back. Maybe not the best method, but Ill be damned if Im learning creationism in my science class.

Oh, but you aren't, are you? No, YOUR RIGHT to believe what you like is defended. You're not some champion for the cause of evolution; rather than trying to infringe on the rights of people to believe what they like you should break the image of arrogant atheists and accept them for their beliefs, whether they accept you for yours.

Yeah yeah yeah. Same old song and dance. I decry religion for infringing on human rights and so forth, and that makes ME the bad guy. I dont like fighting religion. I really wish I did not even have to care about it. Now, Im not saying Im not doing the same thing as them...but if so, then im doing THE SAME THING AS THEM. Yet you arent yelling at them too now are you?

Oh sorry about them, I'll have a talk with their parents as soon as..oh that's right. You're not a Christian telling an atheist he can't believe what he wants, you're an atheist saying Christians can't believe what they want. Grow up and stop going "But she started it!", I'm not your parent. Yea, you are the bad guy here, you like your right to believe what you like? They like their rights too. Don't be a hypocrite and expect only your beliefs to be valid.

Im not an athiest. The FACT that people always call me an athiest in these arguments kinda makes those who call me it a hypocrite. I mean, only athiests can hate religion? Thats a narrow minded view. Shame.