I'm mostly a PC gamer these days, wish I had a PS3. Gonna be on my xbox 360 more when I get my first HDTV tomorrow.GonzoGamer said:
Poll: Fallout 3 vs. New Vegas? Who cares! (rant)
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You do know you're talking about other people's tastes, right?Orekoya said:
The question was
"Does it really make a difference to you which Fallout is treated as the better one?"
One can only assume that means how the games are treated "by the gaming community". It's essentially asking whether people's tastes differing from yours bothers you at all (which, apparently, it does).
Oh, in general? It doesn't bother me per say, but it does leave me inquisitive. Which could fit with definition two of bother - bewilderment. I do like to know why people think the things they say and not being forthcoming is irritating. But the gist I got from the original post is that he's tired of people being passionate over their preferences unless they're prepared to back it up with numerical lists like every opinion posted is a new scientific thesis that's in need of evidence for its burden of proof.loc978 said:
I've got them both, though I do admit to liking Three Dog mor than Mr. New Vegas.
Three Dog has a better personality, but then Fallout 3 doesn't Las Fucking Vegas, so...
Three Dog has a better personality, but then Fallout 3 doesn't Las Fucking Vegas, so...
Yes, I think I'll be a "mostly pc" player soon as well; any future Bethesda titles I buy will definitely be for the pc. Hell, Fallout 4 may be what gets me to buy one of these steamboxes, if they're any good.Xan Krieger said:
Congrats on the new tv. If its a big one, make sure you get the hdmi out for the 360.
Thanks, it's a 32 inch for my room. My mother had been bugging me to get a new TV saying I was living in the past with a 28 inch TV. My logic had always been that it worked so I didn't need a new one, new things come when old things break. I was convinced to get the new one when a TV belonging to my friends broke and they wanted one exactly like the one I had so I gave it to them. Been using a 20 inch standard tv for the past week since I've been too busy to get the new one.GonzoGamer said:
Now to go about finding that HDMI cable, used to fix computers so I have cables out the proverbial ass. Also as for why I prefer PC, Steam is why. Got a 1.5TB harddrive almost completely filled with games.
"Does it really make a difference to you which Fallout is treated as the better one?"
Yes. Why? Because, contrary to popular opinion, developers want to know how their audience feels about what they've made.
We have something special here, two semi-sequels to an old-but-great game series done by different studios in different ways, AND a new game coming up. Both were good games in and of themselves, but if anything could have been done better in either of them, the devs need to know so they can use that in the next one. And hopefully make the sequel the best fallout yet.
Personally, I think New Vegas was much more in line with the games before it story-wise, using the factions from 1 and 2 in a relatively logical manner. 3 was a very good game, but the plot simply made no sense. Why were those factions there? I'm pretty sure (obscurified spoiler) I destroyed one of em in fo2. And the others behaved nothing like the rest of their kind did in previous games. On the other hand, New Vegas was rather empty (the city, not the game) and it was quite the buggy mess on release.
If these discussions lead to the devs picking the discussion-flaunted good points from both games and fixing the not-so-good parts about them, then that is a good thing.
Yes. Why? Because, contrary to popular opinion, developers want to know how their audience feels about what they've made.
We have something special here, two semi-sequels to an old-but-great game series done by different studios in different ways, AND a new game coming up. Both were good games in and of themselves, but if anything could have been done better in either of them, the devs need to know so they can use that in the next one. And hopefully make the sequel the best fallout yet.
Personally, I think New Vegas was much more in line with the games before it story-wise, using the factions from 1 and 2 in a relatively logical manner. 3 was a very good game, but the plot simply made no sense. Why were those factions there? I'm pretty sure (obscurified spoiler) I destroyed one of em in fo2. And the others behaved nothing like the rest of their kind did in previous games. On the other hand, New Vegas was rather empty (the city, not the game) and it was quite the buggy mess on release.
If these discussions lead to the devs picking the discussion-flaunted good points from both games and fixing the not-so-good parts about them, then that is a good thing.
New vegas had an excellent story and excellent world building; far more meaningful then Fallout 3's, at any rate. I personally believe that it would be best if that was recognized and appreciated. Not saying you can't like F3, and it was better in some regards and it's okay to value those areas more, but to me, the points that NV was better at (and it was better) are in many ways more important to have, and undervalued in the industry..
The problem tend to be, though, that one game is reguarded as the pinnacle of human achivement and the other an utter disgrace and nothing but an exorcise in passionless prolefeed.
But I do think you are right, now that I've been made to think about it a bit more. When the discussion of which game is better is carried out with a wider spectrum and constructive discussion, then it's a very healthy process, and a discussion well worth having. There's been plenty of those, and that is a good thing.
It's when it becomes a project of fandom devotion, or a crusade against the wrong type of gaming, or some other simplistic cause, then it is not quite worth having at all.
But I do think you are right, now that I've been made to think about it a bit more. When the discussion of which game is better is carried out with a wider spectrum and constructive discussion, then it's a very healthy process, and a discussion well worth having. There's been plenty of those, and that is a good thing.
It's when it becomes a project of fandom devotion, or a crusade against the wrong type of gaming, or some other simplistic cause, then it is not quite worth having at all.