Poll: "Fallout 3": Why Do Fans of the First Two Dislike It?

[MadManZac]

The main reasons the I have heard that there where plot holes, the combat was so different/awful, not as challenging, its not as deep of an RPG as the originals (and i agree after just beating the first one tonight), and a couple others that I cant remember right now.

If it wasnt for fallout 3 nobody today, aside from original fans, would care about. And that includes me because I, like many people was introduced to the fallout series through the third one.

And despite the different gameplay aspects between fallout 1+2, tactics, BoS, FO3 and New Vegas, I love the series as a whole.

 

[Austin Howe]

I notice there's no "I played fallout 3 and haven't played the others".

I made a mistake and for some reason cannot fixed it. I intended to have that option, as, technically, that is the one I need.

 

[katsumoto03]

Pretentious people acting on their nostalgia. That is all. Fallout 1&2 were great games, but I prefer Fallout 3&NV more personally.

 

[manaman]

It wasn't that Fallout 3 was different because it was bigger, or dumbed down. It just wasn't much of a Fallout game.

It was a good game, but it just didn't do justice to the series. Play the first to and you see people all over the place picking up the pieces, building cities and nations. None of that was present in Fallout 3. It's like they decided to place the game a couple of decades after the war, built the whole terrain, then in the middle of development swapped it to a couple hundred years after the war so they could have the BOS there. As well as dropping in the Enclave as an enemy for no damned good reason. That's just the start. It felt like another game forced into a box labeled Fallout with all the grace of someone who's only exposure to the series previously was some bad fan fiction.

Still it was a decent game that I enjoyed playing. It just doesn't hold a candle to the first two.

Pretentious people acting on their nostalgia. That is all. Fallout 1&2 were great games, but I prefer Fallout 3&NV more personally.

Yeah sure, that's it. Nobody can feel that a decline in a series is anything other then out of control nostalgia. You hit the nail on the head there sparky.

Really it's for all the reasons I posted above. I liked and felt New Vegas was a great addition to the series.

 

[Mcface]

I call it "man child syndrome" where certain people think first means best, even though the later installments are clearly superior.

Two and three were just straight up boring for me. Swing, miss. Swing, miss, Swing, miss, Swing 1 dmg.

its so tedious and boring.

 

[Jamboxdotcom]

Most old school Fallout players enjoyed Fallout 3 (at least 75% of the ones i've talked to, yes, that's anecdotal/not scientific, who gives a shit?). it's really just the hardcore assholes on NoMutantsAllowed that bashed on F3. there were things here and there that i didn't care for, but they captured the essence of the Fallout "universe" for me, so i enjoyed it. i preferred NV to 3, though that is largely due to some of the original devs getting their fingers in it, as well as the return to the more familiar setting (and the massively improved crafting/mod system).

oh... i do have to note that i despised Mothership Zeta, though. but i guess that's a pretty common feeling... including that with F3 as a whole could bring down its overall rating, so to speak

*edit* also, FalloutJack already mentioned NoMutantsAllowed, so yeah... it's mostly those guys being all pretentious.

 

[Amphoteric]

Fallout 3 is badly written, the plot is worse, the characters are worse bethesda didn't care much for the Fallout canon.

Fallout 3 is still a fun game though.

 

[Zaik]

It's pretty much the same as Morrowind loyalists, this sums it up better than I ever could.

 

[Austin Howe]

I gotta say, part of the reason I like Fallout 3 so much is the contrast I can create by playing Galaxy News Radio against using VATS to blow off a Raider's head with a combat shotgun. Without it, the game can just be outright depressing, and so far, I'm missing it from Fallout. Not that this soundtrack is bad. By no means is it bad, but I just preffered the tunes.

One thing the series really doesn't deliver on, consistently, is the fact that it's supposed to be what happened to society if the 50's never endeed, whilst technology zoomed into the realms of what, for us, will probably be the 22nd century. After the apocalypse, society is gone to hell, and except for the occasional town, I don't really see overt racism (either against the ghouls, or the various black characters, like Bannon and Three Dog from F3), traditional gender roles, etc.

However, the catchy jazz radio does help that, and it does sort of help make you wonder what the streets of this blasted city would look like with people walking around them, and without the debree preventing your progress. Fallout, without the radio, does not invoke this kind of nostalgia.

Meanwhile, man, this combat is REALLY fucking awkward right now.

 

[Assassin Xaero]

Went with "Fallout 3" Introduced Me, and I Disliked the Other Two. I LOVED Fallout 3, but I never played the earlier ones. Then I played New Vegas and all the "true" fans of the series said it was what Fallout 3 was supposed to be, and I found it bland... So, I'm just going to assume I won't like the old ones and not waste the money.

 

[Fr33Lanc3r.007]

I prefer the ability to shoot at the groin in the targeted aiming system the first 2 had, you can't get youtube videos of anyone finishing Fallout 3 by only punching the groin.

 

[WanderingFool]

I am a big fan of Fallout 3. I like the atmosphere, the atmospehereic soundtrack, as well as the catchy Jazz tunes, I love Three Dog, I even like the combat, which I'll readilly admit is lackluster.

I am currently installing Fallout Classic Collection, and I wanted to know just why fans of the first two sometimes dislike the third so much. Perspectives. Discuss.

There is a flaw in your poll, there is no, "Fallout 3 introduced me, but I havent played the first 2, and dont have an opinion on them."

 

[Austin Howe]

Fallout 3 was my first too. Then I played NV, then 1, then 2.

I actually ended up liking 3 the least (and considering I still love it to death, that says a lot).

1 and 2 took me back to Diablo II with the visuals. It was more linear than what I was used to with 3/NV, but the entertainment value, atmosphere and story made me forgive it.

New Vegas is my favorite because I've always got a girl hardon for games that don't polarize morality. Up until NV, Fallout was like "here are the bad guys, good guys, and neutral guys. Pick one". New Vegas really blurs those lines with the various factions that exist. All of them have their downsides and upsides.

Also, mods and customizability are really important to me, as I like to play as myself in games that allow me to pick the protagonist, and 1 and 2 lacked that.

I agree, but I still find it a bit polarized. There's ups and downs to every government, but the entire series pretends that every government is a dictatorship, and every rebel is an anarchist. Meanwhile, neither are tied to any particular ideal. Is the NCR Socialist? Is The Enclave Fascist? What about the small towns like Megaton, or Rivet City? Why are they, or why are they not, teamed up with any higher official authority? The series certainly has it's "attitudes" about each faction, but it doesn't have any consistent theme.

BTW, I'd like to point out that really, not a single one of these games is all that well written. The dialogue maybe, but it's only because it's really easy to write matching dialogue for predictable, one-dimensional characters, and even all that would suck if it wasn't for the consistently excellent voice acting. (WAYNE FUCKING NEWTON)

 

[moretimethansense]

I chose the first option but I'd like to point out that I didn't dislike Fallout 3 so much as I just didn't care for it that much.

For me it was the atmosphere, it just didn't feel like a fallout game if that makes any sense, their wasn't so much of the dark humor or in jokes and it felt more like oblivion with guns in a post apocolyptic setting.
That was enough for me to not treat it as a fallout game, but not enought to sour me on it, what soured me on it was the poor morality system, uninvolving quests, (mostly)unmemorable charecters andthat god awful ending, I can forgive a lot but sereously fuck you bethesda! fuck you.
And before you say it, no Broken Steel does not "fix" it, it is merely Bethesda charging you for a fucking ending, any developer worth their salt would have apologized and given it away for free or at least not what they charge for it.

 

[DarkRyter]

People don't like different things.

I for one, hate white chocolate. Not even real chocolate.

 

[The Night Shade]

FO3 was different but not bad people nitpick too much nowadays

 

[The Random One]

I like all of them, but I'm not surprised. Other than the setting, they are completely different games. And fans of the older games now know they'll never have a 'proper' sequel (and while a 'proper' sequel the way the most staunch fanboys want it would please no one but them, it would definitively be possible to make a sequel that updates the gameplay and keeps the tone, and Fallout 3 isn't it.)