Poll: Fallout: London must be made.

[SnippyWings]

No, it's not needed. Let Bethesda get on with ES:V.

or maybe...

Fallout: cyrodil

 

[Tomsky]

Actually, we've had this sort of thread before, come to think of it, and I remember distinctly wanting to save the British Isles for pen-and-paper games, because I didn't think that any game developer would do justice to the setting. The American-based Fallout games have the advantage that the developers have been American, and can actually understand their own culture well enough to put it onto the screen. They, however, lack certain subtleties that would be necessary for the British setting.

The game would have to be more akin to the first and second games as well, if not in perspective, then in humour and pacing. It wouldn't do to copy-paste Fallout 3 with mods and rockers; the game would get grating very, very quickly.

Well surely it's about 200 years after the Great War? So it could of recovered by then.
I think it sounds like a good idea but even if they don't do this I think they should say a little more about the rest of the world.

 

[Owain Thomas Davies Ellis]

It would work, but it would have to be done carefully, as not to lose the Fallout atmosphere.
But, I would like to see these...

Dressing in a policeman?s hat (You know, the helmet thing)
Stealing the portrait of Thatcher (from number 10 downing) for a insane pre-war hippie ghoul, and watching him set it on fire.
Getting a Beatle?s-related achievement for crossing abbey road.
Shooting up the House of Lords.
Stealing the crown jewels.
Mutant bull pit dogs!
Mutant lions!
Mutant...uh, pigeons?
Getting big Ben running again.
Reacting the gunpowder plot with a nuke.

Christ, I could go on and on...

 

[Lord George]

It'd be nice to have a game spread across most of say the south of England, climbing Big ben, strolling through quaint fire-bombed kentish lanes, fighting raiders in glitzy Brighton's streets. It'd be awesome, especially if they still maintained a 50's British style and viewpoint.

Actually this sounds like a good idea for a mod, damn it someone make one.

 

[relish]

Fallout: world

That would take up a lot of space but ... would ... be ... Awesome!

 

[geldonyetich]

It was made, it was called Hellgate London and it Tanked.

Seconded.

 

[Nukey]

I want to see fallout Canada, i think it could be rather fun.

 

[Nickolai77]

To put things into perspective, I'd say that Europe in Fallout would logically be totally decimated. Probably one of the reasons why someone like Mr. Tenpenny considers living in a refurbished skyscrayper such a good thing, and came to America to begin with given the oppertunity. I would say there probably isn't a london, or really anything gamable there. Just boring desperation. Sort of like "The Road" compared to "Mad Max" if even that.

The reason why I say this is that if there was a war with China, Europe is right in between it and the US. For all pretensions to the contrary Europe also has very little in the way of military power at this level. European powers having been sort of proud of their anti-nuke policies and while capable of destroying a few cities they can't blanket the world like other powers. In terms of sheer numbers the europeans also can't put enough boots on the ground to deal with the incoming Chinese. What's more in order to engage the US, they would have to take over Europe and pretty much flatten it just to take out the missle defenses (like the base we have in Poland that was under heavy discussion with the Russians). If Europe was a US Ally it probably got nuked and wiped out by the Chinese, and then nuked again by the US once it fell to try and stop them. If Europe was a Chinese ally, again it probably just got nuked out of existance by the US to again stop the Chinese from using it as a beach-head.

Actually, the quickest and easiest way for China to get to the US is over the Pacific Oceon, not through central Asia, the Middle East, Russia, and then Europe. If China wanted to attack the US, Europe is quite a big diversion. China would have only nuked Europe if the Europeans sided with the US, and since their is no evidence of WW2, and maybe even WW1 not happening, Europe would be more or less neutral with the US, so China would have no reason to nuke Europe. If the world wars never happend, Europe would, in the 1950's esque world, be only close behind the US in terms of military and economic power. Still, your other points are pretty good.

I could think of some different objections to setting Fallout outside American soil- mainly that Fallout 3 is a highly American game, the enclave to me represents American conservativism, when President Eden wants to wipe out the mutant's, i sensed old racist under-tones that lingered in the red-neck states. Looking at the ruin's, the old posters, and the old car's, and the communist red threat, also seemed to me a critque of McCarthyism in the real 1950's America. There was even slavery in there, yet another cristism of American conservativism. Fallout 3 is a very anti-American-conservative game.However, Fallout 3 is defintly not a game anti-American, in fact it is a game that is rather patriotic. The memorials and landmarks references and missions to the American constitution, i think it's trying to say that Fallout 3 is the sort of world we would live in today if American Conservatism had won out in the 1950's. It's also reminding American gamers of their real nations heratige, perhaps the writers for Bethsada think that the American right wing have hijacked and put their own destructive twist on it. Fallout 3 is fundimentally an American game, Arthur Miller would have loved Fallout 3. For these reasons, i don't see how it may work if you set it in London.. unless you keep the America-centric theme to it. I don't know, but that's my outsiders view on Fallout 3.


Hell.. i want to see a game that British and European gamers could relate to, it's kinda annoying that America dominates the gaming industry. We have over 2000 thousand years of complex history and culture, yet that's scarecely explored in the gaming, or indeed the big film industry. One of the reasons why COD 4 was such a joy to play was that you could actually play as non-American's for a change, altough in perspective the game was American. One of the reasons why i think America gets a lot of hate from Europe is because were tired of hearing about you guy's every day of every week. I have no problem at all with American's making games for American's, i would just want to see a British or European game made for Brit's or Europeans. It carn't be that hard can it?

 

[Ph33nix]

its called er or was called Hell Gate:London

 

[w-Jinksy]

fallout cardiff, because when you blow up his country and take away his booze a welshman is more dangerous thany any supermutant.

 

[Ph33nix]

But Americans are supposed to love British accents right?

thats a lie.

 

[orangebandguy]

But Americans are supposed to love British accents right?

thats a lie.

Damn. Now it'll never be made.

There's always the next universe I suppose.

 

[manaman]

Meh, Hellgate London was rather boring and a fallout set in it's universe would not be the same thing as usa. Thus somewhere in between, like Sweden of Africa would be interesting.

Sweden is not an exciting place has low population density and its mainly country side how would make good game.

You don't truly think there are no unexciting, unpopulated areas in the US do you? Also, I could be wrong, but I think there are cities in Sweden.

You could basically have a fallout game in any fairly cosmopolitan city in the world.

 

[squid5580]

How about:

Fallout:Ontario, Canada
Fallout:San Fransico
Fallout:Italy

Why Ontario? Just asking but isn't there more interesting provinces than Ontario. Like Alberta or BC for some mountain exploration while fighting mutant beavers.

And Fallout London wouldn't work. The super mutants might stop in the middle of a fight claiming it's tea time lol (I kid I would buy it in a heartbeat)

 

[Daxren]

i think this would be quite good if done really well..not just an apocolyptic Getaway: Black Monday haha, but then i am in south west london..and it would be nice to see shit i recognise and have been to...NUKED!

 

[malestrithe]

Take the fallout games and set it wherever you want, I'll probably pick it up and play it.

Fallout Germany would be my choice. Why should wolfenstein have all the fun in the former nazi stronghold?

 

[kingcom]

Heres the problem, as cool as that may sound, it spits all over the fiction. You see the vault network is the only thing which allowed humans to survive in the U.S. You cannot provide any adequate explanation as to why they managed to establish this same experimentation project across the rest of the world, particularly as Europe had disolved into chaos and interstate conflicts (all generally hostile to the U.S).

Hence you wouldnt get any human or human-like life.

EDIT: ALSO, Ghouls and Super Mutants ARE NOT NATURAL MUTATIONS, they require that humans be introduced to the Forced Evolutionary Virus (FEV) to change (those irradiated become Ghouls and those pure become super mutants), except for those ghouls in Necropolis but thats the only exception.

No Vault Network, NO LIFE, it would be an absolutely boring game.

If you actually pay attention to the fallout series you will recognise that it is not supposed to be either patriotic nor anti-American. It is supposed to depict how bad leaders, make bad decisions all towards selfish human ends. It is SUPPOSED to show how even in the near annihilation of the human race people are constantly working to exploit others and carve out their own slice of power. It is supposed to show how the 'fear' of the military is a poorly placed fear (more relevant 20 years ago) and hate for war should be placed at the blame of governments and politicians not the military (as the closest things to heroes in the game world would be the Brotherhood of Steel attempting to maintain some order out of choas, ignoring the whimpy fallout 3 BoS).

 

[Lenny Magic]

A few people were a making a London mod for Fallout 3. But as far as I know it died (though their website [http://www.nuclearlondon.com/] is still up...)

 

[Jaxek13]

Fallout: London would be cool for the story and very interesting. Any other places to have the next Fallout would be Hawaii (just so there would be a Fallout game with more color) or New York, there would be a level where you go into NBC studios and you would see Matt and Meredith's skeletons at the desk.