Poll: Fallout1 or Fallout2

[keiji_Maeda]

I tried playing Fallout 1 quite recently, but I had no idea what to do and was killed by the first dude I found.

Guess I'm doing something wrong

Same only I got killed by a rat.

Yeah, it was a rat that killed me too. I was just too ashamed to say it.

WTH am I doing wrong?

Probably invested in a socially active character, if you die immediately out of the vault, here's my pro-tip. Go in again, and go to floor 2, theres a gun there. some ammo, and a knife. Not everybody knows you can go back in

sorry if you knew.

THat in a ´nutshell is one of the biggest point of critique against F1 it's more difficult to play a Social/INT char, which is (according to one of the devs) the idea, they wanted to clear out the gene-pol in the vault so the big/dum person got sent out, according to one version anyway ^^

 

[keiji_Maeda]

Fallout 3.

The OP wants to play a GOOD Fallout game, not Bethesda's nonsense.

3 is the one to stay away from.

I'm just curious, why is it all Fallout fans hate Bethesda's instalment in the series? I've only played Fallout three and two and thought three was better in many ways- it is just personal taste though.

Well ys, as with all hate it is a pretty subjective matter. And i think that in this case it's about brand pandering. Hate is an easy bandwagon to get on, free drinks, hugs and a sense of belonging included and all that jazz.

For me? (i'm ONLY tralking about me here, as someone who played ALL fallouts when they were released ) It was as much about brand handling and corporate management of the label as about the game. I won't deny i had fun in F3, but it didn't really have that Fallout feeling about it. But i was still glad to have 3-d fallout oblivion mod.

Then came New vegas and was well for me, the writing was up to scratch and it had a good feeling of coherency (except for those bloody railroading mechanics, keeping me from going where iwanted, but i saw these as rules to be challenged, but i can see them as cheesy too)

but as i said, one mans chit for happiness is one mans shit of crapiness.

 

[Silver]

THat in a ´nutshell is one of the biggest point of critique against F1 it's more difficult to play a Social/INT char, which is (according to one of the devs) the idea, they wanted to clear out the gene-pol in the vault so the big/dum person got sent out, according to one version anyway ^^

But in the second one if you fail at one dialogue in the beginning and you don't have good combat skills you're automatically dead. In the first one all you have to do is clear out some rats, and then you're good, at least for a while.

In the second my easiest playthrough was as a social characater though, with maxed out science. That was pretty cool.


I'd get the first one. It's the first in the series, the second one has a lot of references to it, you'll meet characters from the first, you'll see places from the first changed and you won't get as much of an introduction to the world. And your character in the second one makes a lot less sense. (I'd get the second one too, and play through that several times as well, and then I'd get Fallout Tactics despite it being slightly worse, but still fun (if in another genre of game), and then I'd reluctantly play the third one and Obsidians game, and be sad and miss the real Fallout games, because sure, they're not entirely horrible, but it's just not Fallout).

 

[Oirish_Martin]

Fallout 1. Definitely 1. Simple plot, and just plain fun.

As for the F3/FNV debate - FNV had more content, more significant choices, better DLC, and was actually made by original F1/F2 dev team members, and is a lot closer to the original for me.

 

[FilipJPhry]

Fallout 2. More options, better gameplay, hilarious dialogue, awesome characters, fun(and unlike FO1, less broken) combat, and to top it off it has smarter and stronger teammates who actually can hold their own and won't shoot you(often).

 

[if_then_else]

Fallout 2.

I think is the better one. It has all elements the first one has and it adds some polish like better inventory management (although it still sucks), better companions management, better quest log, a bit more content. Plus it has my favorite weapon: the Gauss Rifle.

I like the way the story unfolds in Fallout 2, it's not lineal but I find it easier to follow and to understand what's happening. Fallout 1 fells a bit more free-roaming, which I understand some people prefer, but I just like games that guide you a bit more. Also, I don't like the time limit in Fallout 1 (I know you can "buy" more time, but still).

I played Fallout 2 several times, but I played the first one only once.

 

[ultrabiome]

fallout 1. i liked the story and the premise of the vault dweller in the post apocalypse.

i didn't like fallout 2 all that much. maybe because i didn't mod it to not be broken, or that i had to play the factions against each other and i wasn't into that. maybe i didn't like the origin story as much. maybe i liked exploring more than building a new civ from the ashes.

i guess for the same reasons i like fallout 3 to NV (although admittedly i haven't played NV).

 

[Indecipherable]

i guess for the same reasons i like fallout 3 to NV (although admittedly i haven't played NV).

It's so great to have an opinion to mouth off and tell everyone about when you admit in your own post that you are clueless. Keep at it!

 

[Canadamus Prime]

Start with Fallout (the first one), and then play 2. That's what I'd suggest. Although personally I found 2 to be more than a little frustrating esp. at the start.

 

[ultrabiome]

i guess for the same reasons i like fallout 3 to NV (although admittedly i haven't played NV).

It's so great to have an opinion to mouth off and tell everyone about when you admit in your own post that you are clueless. Keep at it!

i would have to say it was informed opinion due to doing enough research on the game to know what the core story and gameplay revolves around and after playing 1 and 2, knowing which i preferred. opinionated yes. clueless no. fallout 1 is still better.

 

[keiji_Maeda]

THat in a ´nutshell is one of the biggest point of critique against F1 it's more difficult to play a Social/INT char, which is (according to one of the devs) the idea, they wanted to clear out the gene-pol in the vault so the big/dum person got sent out, according to one version anyway ^^

But in the second one if you fail at one dialogue in the beginning and you don't have good combat skills you're automatically dead. In the first one all you have to do is clear out some rats, and then you're good, at least for a while.

In the second my easiest playthrough was as a social characater though, with maxed out science. That was pretty cool.


I'd get the first one. It's the first in the series, the second one has a lot of references to it, you'll meet characters from the first, you'll see places from the first changed and you won't get as much of an introduction to the world. And your character in the second one makes a lot less sense. (I'd get the second one too, and play through that several times as well, and then I'd get Fallout Tactics despite it being slightly worse, but still fun (if in another genre of game), and then I'd reluctantly play the third one and Obsidians game, and be sad and miss the real Fallout games, because sure, they're not entirely horrible, but it's just not Fallout).

Good point, there is a sense of accomplishment in seeing certain towns, people and events growing and being firmly entrenched in canon. But i think the second game fares a lot better on it's own, partially because of the structuring but also because of the (then definetly, now FIRMLY) entrenched pop-culture references, even the simple Dune taunt that took me a couple of years to "Get", there's more of it, and while more is not definetly better. In this case it works very well IMO.

 

[Silver]

I liked that the first one took itself more seriously though (she says about the game where you can aliens with a picture of Elvis). The pop-culture references, and the jokes were either very clearly not part of the main game, or just worked out smoother, and more of the game kept a straight face. Sure, many of the encounters are hilarious (time travelling back to the first game anyone?), but you lose some of the immersion.

Also many of the most emotional encounters lose some weight when you haven't played the first one (investigating Vault city closely for example), and the beginning makes no sense.