Poll: Favorite 90's Alt-Rock Scene

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Jazoni89

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Many scenes popped up in the earlier part of the 90's at the height of Alternative Rock's Popularity in the mainstream, some more successful than others. After the numerous Hair Metal, and Gothic styled Post-Punk bands of the 80's, youth cultures started making their own spin on the Alternative Rock sound pioneered by bands such as the Velvet Underground, and various early Post-Punk/Hardcore bands, such as the Wipers, and Bad Brains. Across both North America, and the UK this style of music came to define the 90's for a lot of people growing up in so called Generation X, a term used to describe youth living in the late 80's/early 90's time period. Many fantastic, and great band emerged from this time, with lots of band sticking to a single style that helped categorize these bands that gave rise to the sub genres in Alternative Rock, and to grow a scene that broke the very boundaries of Rock itself.

Lets analyse, and break down these scenes, shall we...

Grunge (1985 - 1996) (Mainstream Popularity 1991 - 1994)
Origins - Seattle, and the Washington Area, USA

One of the more well known Alternative Rock scenes of the 90's. The term Grunge came about when Mark Arm (The lead singer of Mudhoney) reviewed his previous band in a Seattle magazine Desperate times in the early 80's called Mr Epp and the Calculations calling it "Pure Noise, Pure Grunge, Pure Shit". The term was later picked up by the record label Sub Pop in the late 80's to describe a Punkish style of Alternative Rock. The origins of Grunge can be traced back to the early 80's Post-Punk/Hardcore bands who were making their own heavier and more louder spin on the mostly dark and gloomy nature of British Post-Punk. It came into it's own though in the early 90's when a energetic youthful Nirvana Frontman Kurt Cobain inspired millions of youths to say no to Establishment. This youth revolution came to be known as the new punk, and Nirvana's second album Nevermind became a best seller, launching his career in the limelight (much to Kurt Cobain's distaste). Many bands from around the Seattle area also shared the same sort of success left by Nirvana, with the Classic Rock inspired Pearl Jam (created by ex members of Mother Love Bone), and the heavy Metal flavored Alice in Chains. Sadly Kurt Cobain's death in 1994 proved the final nail in the coffin for the original Grunge scene, and it disappeared as quickly as it came. However a more commercially viable Post-Grunge scene appeared shortly after, and is now considered a basis for modern mainstream rock to this day. With the ideas and Inspirations taken from the original scene into a much more radio friendly sound.

Riot Grrrl (1993-1997) (Mainstream Popularity N/A)
Orgins - Portland Oregon, and the Washington Area, USA

Riot Grrrl was a short lived Underground feminist American Punk scene that also ran with the Seattle Grunge scene at the Time. Many of the lyrics feature female empowerment, Rape, Sexuality ect. Inspired by Early British so called "Girl Power" Punk bands of the 70's such as X-Ray Spex, and Siouxxie and the Banshees. Like other scene that came before it including the New York No-Wave scene, it also was a basis for all kinds of arts that wasn't just music, including Political Activism, and Magazines. There were not many noteworthy bands that came out of the Riot Grrrl scene, but Sleater-Kinney was one of the more successful ones, and had a long standing career even after the scene completely came to a halt in the late 90's.

Nu-Metal/Rap Metal (1995 - 2002) (Mainstream Popularity 1998 - 2001)
Origins - California, USA

The sound that came to define that late 90's for many people, like how Grunge did for many in the early 90's. Drawn from Hip-Hop, Metal and Post-Grunge scenes. This incorporation of Rap and Metal proved a hit with fans of each of the two sides of the music spectrum, and became a huge mainstream hit with bands such as Limp Biskit, and Korn leading the charge. The scene has had it's fair share of critism though, with people calling it watered down, and has been seen as the "Anti-Christ" of Metal by Metal fans to this very day. Nu-Metal faded out of the Mainstream in the early 00's when Metalcore came about.

Britpop (1993 - 1998) (Mainstream Popularity 1995 - 1998)
Origins - London, UK

Britpop was a step back into the simple "60's Beatles inspired" Rock music. which unlike other Alternative scenes at the time which were progressing into uncharted territories, Britpop kept it simple, and was unlike the Psychedelia drones of Shoegazing, or the experimental nature of Baggy at the time. The scene mostly consisted of a "Do it yourself" style created by working class people living in the British Post-Thatcher years. Given the timeframe the scene was proved to be a great success in the UK, however it became a British cultural thing and was unpopular in other countries because of this. The scene died around 1998, but Post-Britpop bands such as Coldplay are still proving to be immensely popular in both the UK and overseas.


Shoegazing (1988 - 1993) (Mainstream Popularity 1991 - 1992)
Origins - London, and the Thames Valley Area, UK

A love child of the Jesus and Mary Chain and the Cocteau Twins, the scene is considered one of British music's best kept secrets. The Shoegaze scene came about when bands were experimenting with effect peddles, and guitar distortion effects came about by bands like Sonic Youth. The impression that they were staring blankly at their shoes to use the many peddles gave rise to the term. Dreamy vocals, and drony feedback guitars didn't proved to be everyone's cup of tea, but the scene gathered enough mainstream attention, which it was then shot down, and almost insulted by the mainstream media, as a bunch of middle class kids who loved their peddles too much. The Shoegaze scene was later killed off by the emerging Britpop scene, which proved that Shoegaze wasn't a mainstream viable sound. The style of sound later went on to influence many Post-Rock bands, and has since seen a revival of such recently.


Baggy/Madchester (1987-1992) (Mainstream Popularity 1988 - 1990)
Origins - Manchester, UK

A short lived British genre that came out of the Manchester Rave scene, which fused Alternative Rock with Alternative dance music. Also influenced by Drug culture at the time, as Ecstasy was readily available, as such was popular with various dance orientated scenes at the time. It caught the tail end of the 90's, but was steadily declining, as Baggy was taking it's place, which was seen as the more country-wide scene to Manchester only Madchester. Seen to be a inspiration for the later Britpop scene that emerged shortly after baggy's decline.

Pop-Punk/Skater-Punk (1994 - Present) (Mainstream Popularity 1998 - 2005)
Origins - California, USA

Pop Punk was used as a term to describe bands of 70's New-Wave, but the term didn't really come into it's own until the mid 90's when bands who were inspired by the punk of old, came together a gave the genre a revival in a poppish fashion. With bands such as Green Day and the Offspring proving popular with youth everywhere. This style of music came to be known well in the skateboarding scene, which proved to be a marriage made in heaven. The scene lost popularity after a lot of bands split in the mid 00's, and hasn't seen the same success since it's heyday towards the end of the 90's.

Out of all these what do you think is your favorite, and what scene do you think defines the 90's the most.
 

Colour Scientist

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The Grunge/Riot Grrrl scenes were the ones I followed the most when I was a teenager. I loved, and still do love, bands like Bikini Kill, Babes in Toyland and L7. Then there was obviously Nirvana, Hole Pearl Jam, AIC, et all.
 

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Madchester and Britpop for me, although I was born in 1991 so its more of a retrospective thing, given that as an 8-10 year old I wasn't all that bothered about music scenes. My more immediate interests lay with Lego, getting covered in mud, and staying up past 8pm.
 

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I am going to go for grunge, as it was what I mostly listened to as a teenager, I remember the first albums I bought were Ten by Pearl Jam and Nirvana's greatest hits album and listened to them quite a lot. I don't listen to them now, but there will be a special place in my heart for Nirvana in particular.
 

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Nice thread OP, I like the work you put in clarifying an era a lot of people may not have had a great grasp on or had simply forgotten!

Anyway.

Pop-punk for me, it was pretty much my first introduction to music in any form. The first album I ever owned was the Offspring's Greatest Hits. It still holds a place in my heart despite my music tastes changing so much since then. While Nirvana has to be the most popular band to come from the 90's, grunge was overshadowed by the pop-punk scene by the end of it.
 

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Of those? Grunge. Nirvana, Alice in Chains, Soundgarden (who don't really sound like a grunge band, but they're lumped in), The Melvins & Mudhoney are great (I'd like Pearl Jam if Eddie Vedder's voice didn't make me want to strangle kittens). The rest... meh.

Not a Korn or Limp Bizkit fan, whilst Rage Against the Machine were rap metal (and great) they kinda predate that whole scene. Some people seem to think Slipknot are nu-metal, which is kinda wrong, but they share a lot of cues. Slikpnot are/were insanely good though.

Britpop is full of balls, except for Blur, who were brilliant. Oasis in particular can suck a cock though.

Never really listened to shoegaze stuff, although if it's aping Sonic Youth it must be at least alright.

Baggy... eh. I'm fairly into my rave scene stuff, but I can't say it ever really appealed to me.

I'll admit I do sorta like pop-punk/skate-punk stuff. The Offspring, old Green Day and Sum 41 were all pretty good. To be honest, it was good when I was younger, but the more music I hear the more dull it seems. A lot of the bands they take inspiration from like Social Distortion or Bad Religion are many orders of awesomeness better. I always preferred the ska/reggae side of things anyway, like Sublime.
 

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I honestly can't decide, the punk rock movement was amazing, but so was the dirtier side of grunge,(Babes in Toyland anyone?)

I'm going to be struggling to sleep tonight over this decision.

DAMN YOU OP!
 

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TheRightToArmBears said:
Of those? Grunge. Nirvana, Alice in Chains, Soundgarden (who don't really sound like a grunge band, but they're lumped in), The Melvins & Mudhoney are great (I'd like Pearl Jam if Eddie Vedder's voice didn't make me want to strangle kittens). The rest... meh.

Not a Korn or Limp Bizkit fan, whilst Rage Against the Machine were rap metal (and great) they kinda predate that whole scene. Some people seem to think Slipknot are nu-metal, which is kinda wrong, but they share a lot of cues. Slikpnot are/were insanely good though.

Britpop is full of balls, except for Blur, who were brilliant. Oasis in particular can suck a cock though.

Never really listened to shoegaze stuff, although if it's aping Sonic Youth it must be at least alright.

Baggy... eh. I'm fairly into my rave scene stuff, but I can't say it ever really appealed to me.

I'll admit I do sorta like pop-punk/skate-punk stuff. The Offspring, old Green Day and Sum 41 were all pretty good. To be honest, it was good when I was younger, but the more music I hear the more dull it seems. A lot of the bands they take inspiration from like Social Distortion or Bad Religion are many orders of awesomeness better. I always preferred the ska/reggae side of things anyway, like Sublime.
To be honest, i don't think there was a definitive Grunge sound, as various other bands did their own different take on Hard Alternative Rock (except for Nirvana wannabes like Bush), and none of them sounded particularly the same. It could be considered more of a scene than a genre, with the bands having relationships with each other, and being from the same area.

Beyond Mansun and Elastica, I don't like Britpop either. Blur are not bad though.

I like a few Baggy/Madchester bands, The Stone Roses, Inspiral Carpets, The Charlatans, The Happy Mondays. All great bands, but there's a shit ton of dross in the scene as well.

Shoegazing is worth checking out, especially if you like Sonic Youth. My Bloody Valentine, Chapterhouse, Ride, Lush, Swervedriver and Catherine Wheel are pretty much the bands to start off with.

Also, you mentioned Sublime, Operation Ivy is a great Ska-Punk band as well.
 

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Why can I only like one? they all had good bands coming out of them. Lots of toss to, but you just ignore that pointless shit.
 

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I'll have to go pop/punk, skater/punk with a heavy side of Grunge. Probably helps that I grew up in Washington in the Nineties. My mother was really into bands like Smashing Pumpkins, Green Day, Foo Fighters and their ilk so I basically grew up listening to that type of music. It was either that or fall in with my dad and his love of forgotten 60's bands (I can still sing most songs by The Raspberries, I'm not proud of this). He did also play a lot of Roy Orbison, so that wasn't so bad.
 

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In retrospect, I'm actually not sure as I've grown the feeling that I'm not too crazy about Nirvana, really. But, back then, Grunge, definitely. The world of the teenage me had the kind of Pop which is Rickrolling these days, punk and wave/early electronica, all of which I just didn't like or was ignorant about/had no connection to. So I was (mostly) a Heavy Metal kid - Grunge showed me what I really was looking for.

Now, looking back, these two define 90's rock for me:

 

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The Norwegian black-metal scene and the Tampa death-metal scene. Obviously. Can't get more "alt" than that. XD

But more seriously, probably grunge. I enjoy some Pearl Jam, Alice in Chains, and The Melvins from time to time. Can't really claim that of the other scenes. :p
 

Sacman

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PFft... None of those... Vaguely Folkish Alterna-Rock is where it's at... <.<

Like Dinosaur Jr...
Or The Meat Puppets...
 
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TheRightToArmBears said:
Of those? Grunge. Nirvana, Alice in Chains, Soundgarden (who don't really sound like a grunge band, but they're lumped in), The Melvins & Mudhoney are great (I'd like Pearl Jam if Eddie Vedder's voice didn't make me want to strangle kittens). The rest... meh.
I listened to a lot of Nirvana when younger, yet I never got to listen to any other grunge bands. Can you tell what are your favourite albums from each of those bands you cited?
 

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Sir Christopher McFarlane said:
TheRightToArmBears said:
Of those? Grunge. Nirvana, Alice in Chains, Soundgarden (who don't really sound like a grunge band, but they're lumped in), The Melvins & Mudhoney are great (I'd like Pearl Jam if Eddie Vedder's voice didn't make me want to strangle kittens). The rest... meh.
I listened to a lot of Nirvana when younger, yet I never got to listen to any other grunge bands. Can you tell what are your favourite albums from each of those bands you cited?
Most people will tell you that Nevermind is the best Nirvana album, but I think In Utero is more interesting. Dirt is probably the best Alice In Chains album, Superunknown is the best Soundgarden album (and probably my favourite grunge album), not sure about Mudhoney... probably Piece of Cake. The Melvins are pretty weird, but The Bride Screamed Murder is my favourite album.
 

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I used to be really into KoRn and Limp Bizkit, and even Linkin Park. Now though? have bought a new KoRn CD since Take a Look in the Mirror, or the Greatest Hit's they did all 3 parts of 'The Wall' on (which is a fucking AWESOME cover btw) due to just them have gone down hill a bit, Limp Bizkit got pretty much ignored when i heard Wess left the band after 'Chocolate Starfish and the Hotdog flavored water', though I did pick up 'Gold Cobra' (cause I heard Wess was back) which was pretty decent, not great mind you, but good.

Linkin Park? lol, Meteroa was the last CD from them I got, and the songs of theres i do have I don't listen to at all, unlike KoRn or LB (cause 'Here to Stay' and 'Nookie' are still good).

only band from the 90s I still listen/buy music of that isn't country (and to be fair, a lot of these are late 80's early 90's) is Disturbed, cause they hit a sweet spot. They aren't getting 'any better' so to speak, but they hit a nice groove of consistent quality
 

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speaking of grunge Alice in Chains have a new album dropping on the 24th. This is their new single:
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It's like grunge never died.
 

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I don't know what it is, but I really hate the vast majority of 90s music. If it doesn't involve Stephen Malkmus or the nation of Iceland, chances are I'm not a fan. If really pressed, I guess shoegaze because I can at least pick up on the influences in a good number of bands I like today. I also dig Sleater-Kinney, but most riot grrl does nothing for me. The Flaming Lips were killing it in the 90s, but I have no idea what scene they'd be in.

Long story short, 80s punk all the way.
 

GonzoGamer

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Actually the scene that was dearest to my heart was the ska revival here in the US. I've been a fan of ska since I was little so seeing a bunch of local bands like the Defactos Skaflaws and Edna's Goldfish performing regularly and making new favorites was awesome.

Then there were the bands that took it in a new direction like the Mighty Mighty Bosstones which I greatly appreciated too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeU8Hlk3970
Was reminded of this one when I saw it in a trailer recently.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIukgGKsqi8
Incredibly weird but hilarious movie by the way. Like Clerks for nerds.