Poll: Female babysitter charged for having sex with 14-year old boy.
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Kid should get a medal, all the way.
When pornstar Jack Venice was accused of raping a girl (and convicted) people said "***** should be grateful, he's hot and has a big dick." It goes both ways, and this case was definitely not consensual. Some people are just going to have that opinion. As for the kid fist bumping or getting lauded I wouldn't be surprised if he felt guilty at first. then of course all the guys would worship him and all the girls would give him 'poor baby' pity sex and he'd be happy enough with it (I'm just theorizing here).lacktheknack said:
Different strokes I guess (haha, 'strokes'). I dont really have an opinion on it myself. Double standards can be kind of fucked though. There are plenty of situations where it's reversed and the young girl was perfectly willing to nail a 20+year old man and there's be no question on the punishment.
Oh well, whatever I guess. People are fucked up.
And no, the kid totally doesn't need a babysitter (unless he's mentally unstable which definitely would deserve extreme punishment imo)
People did get hurt when you robbed a bank, financially and emotionally! Was the boy hurt physically or emotionally? I do not having a single fucking clue. Also what happens when she gets out of prison, is she a better person, or worse person likely to repeat, is the problem solved or likely to continue? The age of consent law is all encompassing and give a general guideline to a minimum age when a person is supposedly cognitively developed enough to make a rational decision (world still full of butt fuck stupid people above eighteen). Interestingly enough here in Canada a person with below average cognitive abilities maybe barred from having sex at sixteen to protect them but at the same time no consideration is given to people who are below sixteen yet are well above the minimum prerequisites to put them at eighteen in terms of mental faculties. Also interestingly enough here in Canada a twelve year old may have sex with a person no more than two years ahead of them in age, that number goes up to 5 years when they hit 14.Merkavar said:
Edit: Do not compare Murder with Rape. They are two severe, separate crimes with no intrinsic relations that must be dealt with differently and independently of each other circumstances permitting. (Barred a murder rape)
Sorry, I've never actually met a nymphomaniac before, and when I think of sex rehab, I think of people like Tiger Woods after his affairs and whatnot, didn't mean to stereotype.MagnetoHydroDynamics said:
I still don't see why it's a disease. Anything can be addictive, and we all have strong sexual urges. People just learn to control them. I'm sure some people have a legitimate psychological addiction to sex, but I think it's like ADD or Asburgers in that people self diagnose too much so they don't have to take responsibility for their actions.
If it was consensual like the edit says there shouldn't be much of a problem.
Yeah, they are 5 years appart, but it seems like a knee-jerk reaction of his mother just because he has sex.
I mean, seriously who pays a babysitter to look after his/her 14 year old child, aren't they old enough to be alone for some hours...
Yeah, they are 5 years appart, but it seems like a knee-jerk reaction of his mother just because he has sex.
I mean, seriously who pays a babysitter to look after his/her 14 year old child, aren't they old enough to be alone for some hours...
One important detail to consider- we cannot be sure of the context of this situation.
Yes, adults giving alcohol to minors and subsequently having sex with them is generally not good and will doubtfully benefit either of them, but can we place blame on the woman based on these facts? If they were in a pre-existing relationship, the situation was most likely consensual, but still technically illegal. If a person asked another person for some form of a relationship and the other agreed, it can very well be for the wrong reasons, but is still not full blown molestation. In the end, that relationship, sexual or not, would likely do some damage to one or both parties, and ending the relationship is probably the best course of action.
But, can we place blame on the adult? Assuming she propositioned the boy, law dictates that she is manipulating and abusing a minor. Said minor probably doesn't know what he is doing and may be sustaining some long term psychological damage. I don't want to label someone as a predator because a twenty year old and a fourteen year old are both able to make bad judgments of who and who not to have sex with. The relationship is dissolved now, and I don't know if either of them will think more carefully in the future, but we can only speculate because we do not know what they were thinking.
When these law and morality discussions come up, laws should be regarded carefully, but everyone has a thought process before they start any relationship- maybe the woman was taking advantage of a teenager, but it's just as possible that no one had any ill intentions.
Yes, adults giving alcohol to minors and subsequently having sex with them is generally not good and will doubtfully benefit either of them, but can we place blame on the woman based on these facts? If they were in a pre-existing relationship, the situation was most likely consensual, but still technically illegal. If a person asked another person for some form of a relationship and the other agreed, it can very well be for the wrong reasons, but is still not full blown molestation. In the end, that relationship, sexual or not, would likely do some damage to one or both parties, and ending the relationship is probably the best course of action.
But, can we place blame on the adult? Assuming she propositioned the boy, law dictates that she is manipulating and abusing a minor. Said minor probably doesn't know what he is doing and may be sustaining some long term psychological damage. I don't want to label someone as a predator because a twenty year old and a fourteen year old are both able to make bad judgments of who and who not to have sex with. The relationship is dissolved now, and I don't know if either of them will think more carefully in the future, but we can only speculate because we do not know what they were thinking.
When these law and morality discussions come up, laws should be regarded carefully, but everyone has a thought process before they start any relationship- maybe the woman was taking advantage of a teenager, but it's just as possible that no one had any ill intentions.
Guys guys guys, I think we're all missing the point here: That kid hit that! If I was 14 and that wanted to fuck me, I'd feel pretty damn lucky.
Nah, you need someone to be there. Otherwise they roam the streets trying to pick up 20 year old hotties...bakan said:
I like you, I feel the same way. This whole thing is contextual. Obviously there is a law, and the law needs to be followed but come on... she wouldn't need to get me drunk... that's all I'm saying.Kenbo Slice said:
Yeah, definitely rehab/treatment center. She's 20 years old and knows the legal limit in many places in the US is 18(16 is other). To completely disregard the law for a teenager six years her junior, not even finished with puberty? Really needs help. If it were a 20 year old guy and a 14 year old girl, I'd say the same thing. Rehab/treatment center.
Prison does not help at all. Yeah, she's out of society, but when she's back in, what's to stop her from doing it again? Fear of prison? For some people, it may do the trick, but for many others they will end up back there. Would rather have her get caught now and treated for her problem instead of her put away for 5-10 years before returning and having sex with an underage kid again.
Prison does not help at all. Yeah, she's out of society, but when she's back in, what's to stop her from doing it again? Fear of prison? For some people, it may do the trick, but for many others they will end up back there. Would rather have her get caught now and treated for her problem instead of her put away for 5-10 years before returning and having sex with an underage kid again.
That's a good point. 14 is the legal age to be able to babysit, what is this shit?Valagetti said:
She should go to jail. Six years may not be too big of an age difference for adults, but when one person is a child, it becomes very wrong. Even more so because she was his babysitter, and therefore supposed to be a responsible adult.
Fuck all of that 'he's a hero' bullshit, that is a disgusting double standard. If the babysitter was a guy and the child a girl, people would be baying for his blood.
At the end of the day, in the eyes of the law it's constitutional rape, and that's a prison sentence and inclusion on the sex offender's register. I don't see how there can be debate over that.
Fuck all of that 'he's a hero' bullshit, that is a disgusting double standard. If the babysitter was a guy and the child a girl, people would be baying for his blood.
At the end of the day, in the eyes of the law it's constitutional rape, and that's a prison sentence and inclusion on the sex offender's register. I don't see how there can be debate over that.
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PS: On a more serious note: If I were the parents I'd probably freak, no matter how much I logically wanted to keep my cools. You're just not rational when it comes to your kids.
Also, if you're 20 and interested in 14 year old boys (or girls) then you most likely have some rather serious social and psychological issues. Jail might be overdoing it but that girl certainly needs some sort of therapy.
PS: On a more serious note: If I were the parents I'd probably freak, no matter how much I logically wanted to keep my cools. You're just not rational when it comes to your kids.
Also, if you're 20 and interested in 14 year old boys (or girls) then you most likely have some rather serious social and psychological issues. Jail might be overdoing it but that girl certainly needs some sort of therapy.
In that case I see absolutely nothing wrong. Just an archaic law that needs to be reformed (never removed) getting in the way. But I still believe something should be done about the booze, being twenty she should have known better but then again the world will never be rid of stupid peopleGlass Joe the Champ said:
I think the fully story should be heard, a 14 year old being babysat by a 20 year old is clearly some bullshit, they were obviously dating and all that comes with it.
Legally ofcourse this is all sorts of devils taint, but I do not find this morally objectionable because there are two consensual parties involved, this story does not in any way imply abuse or assault only teenage stupidity.
Legally ofcourse this is all sorts of devils taint, but I do not find this morally objectionable because there are two consensual parties involved, this story does not in any way imply abuse or assault only teenage stupidity.