Poll: Fighter Game Re-Re-Releases

[Omega Pirate]

There seem to be an influx of threads about the latest's 2D fighting games. Mostly Mortal Combat, Street Fighter 4 and Marvel vs. Capcom 3. Most of them seem to be re-released after a year or so. It's not like Call of Duty where you get a new campaign and its not exactly a sequel. They just add an arbitrary word to the start of the title.

What I can't seem to understand is why the company makes them, and even more so why people buy them. Do they really make that many improvements that justify a complete re-release? Can you only play with people who have the same version as you? Why not release a patch?

If you buy re-releases of the same Fighting game I would like to know why. If you don't why do you think other people buy them?

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EDIT: Many of you have said that the changes make a huge difference for the competitive community. But is the competitive community so large that it's worth it to re-re-release the same game 3 times? I may be wrong, but for them to release the same game 3 times there has to be a high demand for it. I assume that the average player also buy's the re-re-release. Why?

 

[loc978]

Not I. The most current 2D fighter I own and enjoy is Street Fighter 2 on the SNES. After that I turned into a 3D snob... and I like my 3D fighters as they are (though Soul Calibur 3 could use online support while Soul Calibur 4 should die in a fire).

 

[bjj hero]

If the system and the controls are sound then you can enjoy an older fighting game. I see no problems with rereleases. People don't question why others shop on GOG. It's a similar thing. Also online play for an older title can be a good selling point.

You cannot always have your friends in the same room.

 

[BreakfastMan]

Nope. I never buy remakes either if I have the original (re-releases are a whole other story though). Never much saw the point. It is the same game with maybe 2-4 extra characters and a couple of new modes. Is it really worth laying down another $60 U.S. for it? Of course, considering I own a whole 1 fighting game (2 if you count Twisted Metal: Black, which I do, but others will probably disagree), and only really play 2 (SSB and Soul Calibur) my opinion might not count for much...

 

[RedEyesBlackGamer]

I don't unless it furthers the story/improves mechanics/introduces new characters in a way that justifies another purchase for me. Example: BlazBlue: Continuum Shift was well worth the purchase.

 

[Lust]

I think it comes down to whether or not you like what you see. Some see it as improving on something that's good, while others scream, "cash grab." Hell, I bought SSF4: AE because I already had Super. $15 bucks wasn't that big of a plight for me. Never owned the original SF4 though.

As for something like UMvC 3, I think I'm gonna wait on that. It looks alright but, I'm just not feelin' it. At least not right now I'm not.

But what usually sells a fighter for me is the gameplay and characters. Sometimes the price as well. Mind you, I'm not a real smart guy. So, It doesn't take too much for me to get excited.

I mean, just look at my avatar.
Ah yeah, poison's up in this *****!

Other times, it's because I wasn't able to buy the game originally. That's a big reason on why I'm gonna get SF3: Third Strike OE.

 

[Glademaster_v1legacy]

You mean like buying SF4 then SSF4:AE well I will eventually for characters but preowned or very cheap at a Steam sale despite the fact I find it disgraceful. They could have easily balanced it with patches and released characters with the original game or cheaply via DLC although at least with SSFVI you know they weren't on the original disc so you aren't just buying unlock code in reality.

 

[Doctor Brobotnik]

I think I'd much rather get a re-re-release than have to DL all the characters they release, along with the mountains of patch you'd need for the changes they make to gameplay. It might be a notch more expencive, but now you've got 2 copies of the game, and that friend that has been bugging you for it can finally borrow the less-good version

Plus, think of the internet-less people, or just the people that don't use XBL or PSN! Poor chaps

 

[Ming_the_Merciless]

You mean like buying SF4 then SSF4:AE well I will eventually for characters but preowned or very cheap at a Steam sale despite the fact I find it disgraceful. They could have easily balanced it with patches and released characters with the original game or cheaply via DLC although at least with SSFVI you know they weren't on the original disc so you aren't just buying unlock code in reality.

As much as I'm going to hate myself later that day, I am going to buy UMvC3. But I'm going with a similar technique of buying it used so that Capcom gets no profit off of my sale.

 

[Ordinaryundone]

I honestly prefer a rerelease to DLC and constant patching. Not only is it more consistent, but it also gives tournament play a solid ground to stand on. DLC characters are often omitted because they provide an unfair advantage over those who've never played them or even seen them (say, an Xbox 360 MK player having to go against Kratos). With updated versions, though, the tournament can simply specify "We are playing AE" or "We are playing UMVC3", and everyone knows that all the updates are fair game.

 

[machblast]

It depends on the game. I refuse to buy AE because it's fucking terrible. I would love to buy MBAACC console version though, even though it's not that different from MBAA. The reason for this is because MBAA was released on PS2 only a few years ago, long after the PS3 was introduced.

 

[MetallicMonkey]

To me, it depends on whether there's enough new content to justify shelling out for it.

 

[MetalMantheRevenge]

Really only Capcom, re-re-releases games. Unless I'm missing something

OT: Only if it adds a significant change. and if capcom releases a fighting game, wait a couple of months and they'll re-release it. So you don't blow $60 on an obsolete copy. (Which I did with SF4.)

 

[DustyDrB]

Have never bought a re-release, and I don't plan on starting.

 

[K V MAN]

fighting games are the true sports of this medium (video games) sport games are already popular in the real world-i know that there are fighting sports in the real world, but they cannot Hadukin some one in real life do they- and many fighting games offer more than the same content plus little more characters.

some games actually have some thing to offer e.g. mortal kombat 2011, with the story mode this means that the next installment of MK will feature a hole slew of new characters (or at least i hope it does) and that will not be your average copy past of the previous installment of the game.

i hope that satisfied as an answer.

 

[Halo Fanboy]

People buy the new fighting game home versions so they can practice more and stay competitive. Tournaments will always use the latest version so most people will practice that version. Fighting games are worth more to me then some other genres so I don't mind spending some money on them.

The queen of crappy fighting game updates is in fact not Capcom but Examu. They really screwed up when they released an expensive and rare update to AH right before Tougeki.

 

[FalloutJack]

I own both MediEvil games and MediEvil Resurrection. I have the original US release of Persona and the updated PSP version. I have a working Atari 2600 and a PSP compilation of Atari titles with both classic and modern versions in it. I have Shadow of the Colossus and I eagerly await the PS3 release of it and Ico.

So uhhh...yeah, I would.

 

[Glademaster_v1legacy]

You mean like buying SF4 then SSF4:AE well I will eventually for characters but preowned or very cheap at a Steam sale despite the fact I find it disgraceful. They could have easily balanced it with patches and released characters with the original game or cheaply via DLC although at least with SSFVI you know they weren't on the original disc so you aren't just buying unlock code in reality.

As much as I'm going to hate myself later that day, I am going to buy UMvC3. But I'm going with a similar technique of buying it used so that Capcom gets no profit off of my sale.

I wouldn't mind so much if it was a solid expansion like Nights of The Nine or Shivering Isles but it does annoy me that they charge the price of a whole new game.

 

[Omega Pirate]

Not I. The most current 2D fighter I own and enjoy is Street Fighter 2 on the SNES. After that I turned into a 3D snob... and I like my 3D fighters as they are (though Soul Calibur 3 could use online support while Soul Calibur 4 should die in a fire).

I have to admit I do enjoy Soul Calibur, but that does not stop me from sucking at it. I only played the 2nd and the 4th one, since the 3rd one is only for PS2. Is the 3rd one better then the 4th one?

I own both MediEvil games and MediEvil Resurrection. I have the original US release of Persona and the updated PSP version. I have a working Atari 2600 and a PSP compilation of Atari titles with both classic and modern versions in it. I have Shadow of the Colossus and I eagerly await the PS3 release of it and Ico.

So uhhh...yeah, I would.

I think I may need to clarify the opening post. What I am talking about is how a company releases the same fighting game 1 year later with 4 extra characters for a full price. Your confusing it with re-releasing a game after 6+ years with HD graphics or as a compilation of a series. I can understand buying the compilation if you missed a game, or if its on a different system which you didn't own. Which was the case with Shadow of the Colossus for me.

 

[FalloutJack]

-Moogle-

Yeah, I think I got a bit carried away there, so my vote will have to be Pickled Gherkin.