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Deacon Cole

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RedVelvet said:
That would be impressing movie go-ers in general though. Since it's something they haven't seen much or at all. It's great fanservice but it's also bringing something new to the table.
I don't know about that. For one, as I mentioned above, the idea is really old, as in your parents weren't even born yet old. I know this because my parents weren't born yet in 1947 and I suspect I'm one of the older persons on this forum. For some, it might be your grandparents weren't born yet old. I think to call this something new is like calling 3D films something new. You have to ignore all the past times it was tried and didn't catch on. And there's a very good reason why it didn't catch on. It is nothing but a hollow gimmick.
 

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RedVelvet said:
That would be impressing movie go-ers in general though. Since it's something they haven't seen much or at all. It's great fanservice but it's also bringing something new to the table.
I don't know about that. For one, as I mentioned above, the idea is really old, as in your parents weren't even born yet old. I know this because my parents weren't born yet in 1947 and I suspect I'm one of the older persons on this forum. For some, it might be your grandparents weren't born yet old. I think to call this something new is like calling 3D films something new. You have to ignore all the past times it was tried and didn't catch on. And there's a very good reason why it didn't catch on. It is nothing but a hollow gimmick.
Or a new and exiting way to portray a movie if you give it a chance ... :)
 

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Oh you mean like blair witch project?

I hated that movie. Also it made me feel like i wanted to vomit >: ( this is a problem with FP movies

Edit: Although the fps scene in the doom movie was the highlight of a rather generic movie so i guess it can work sometimes
 

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Starnerf said:
Russian Ark [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0318034/] was shot all first person (and in a single shot, no less). It's not a FPS, but it can be done.
YES! Not only did you ninja me but you knew the film title, while I didn't. To me, that is the very definition of Avant-Garde film.

To be honest, an entirely first person movie will probably be reserved for world cinema and independent films. Mainstream western cinema has no place for it, or really the audience won't have it, just like Russian Ark.

I had an idea drafted up for a POV film in the vein of Left 4 Dead, but we needed time and extras, and had neither.
 

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As far as I've heard the fps sequence in Doom only gave people a headache. I personally didn't mind it too much but doubt there's anything in having a movie like that when you can have a game that's much longer. Movies right now are like a 4 poster comic - too short to convey anything meaningful.
 

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Well, on an episode of Tale from the Cryptkeeper, they shot an episode from the first person. It was actually done excellently. I can't remember the episode, but the main character dies and sees what happens during his death and afterwards. (The episode was about what death MIGHT be like, and the character still saw and felt everything even after he died.) I think it could work again for something else.
 

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Fourteen years age a film called "Strange Days" did a lot of first person view scenes. The premise of the movie was that in the future of 1999 we would have mini cd players that could read and record all your experiences so you could relive them or share them. It started with a cool restaurant hold up, had on one lesbian love scene, a police murder of rap stars, a rape/murder, and various other scenes shot from the first person. The movie won two Saturn Awards.
 

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Plauged1 said:
Well, on an episode of Tale from the Cryptkeeper, they shot an episode from the first person. It was actually done excellently. I can't remember the episode, but the main character dies and sees what happens during his death and afterwards. (The episode was about what death MIGHT be like, and the character still saw and felt everything even after he died.) I think it could work again for something else.
They had at least two. One about two brothers, both doctors. The younger brother freaks out his older brother by having his girlfriend play dead and stand up after he kisses her. It triggers a stroke in the older brother who years later poisons his younger brother with a potion from voodoo doctors and treats him like a cadaver as a joke. The second is about a guy who has plastic surgery to look exactly like Humphrey Bogart to get out of his marriage but the doctor conspires with his ex and kills him.
 

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RedVelvet said:
Or a new and exiting way to portray a movie if you give it a chance ... :)
I seem to not be making myself abundantly clear on this point. I did give it a chance and found it is like a seed that sprouts quickly but withers and dies quickly because it has no root.
 

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the antithesis said:
RedVelvet said:
Or a new and exiting way to portray a movie if you give it a chance ... :)
I seem to not be making myself abundantly clear on this point. I did give it a chance and found it is like a seed that sprouts quickly but withers and dies quickly because it has no root.
Yes, well, I'll just keep waiting for that one person that can make it happen ^^
 

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RedVelvet said:
Yes, well, I'll just keep waiting for that one person that can make it happen ^^
Well, good luck with that. The problem is that subjective camera is a lot like 3D in that it's a hollow visual gimmick. Where this becomes a problem is that it does not bring much to the table in it's own right in terms of quality or profundity. Any effect it has is extraordinarily shallow. The only way it's going to have much depth is if the writing is brought up to a level of quality. This is something that does not happen often even in more traditionally shot films. In fact, if we can take 3D as an example of what to expect, what you're more likely to get is a trite, cliched story at best that is used as a showcase for the shallow visuals and little else is done to elevate the experience because it is assumed the gimmick is good enough to elevate the experience.

Which is not to say that it's impossible. Just unlikely and the reason such a movie would be of superior quality would have little to do with subjective camera (or 3D for that matter)
 

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the antithesis said:
RedVelvet said:
Yes, well, I'll just keep waiting for that one person that can make it happen ^^
Well, good luck with that. The problem is that subjective camera is a lot like 3D in that it's a hollow visual gimmick. Where this becomes a problem is that it does not bring much to the table in it's own right in terms of quality or profundity. Any effect it has is extraordinarily shallow. The only way it's going to have much depth is if the writing is brought up to a level of quality. This is something that does not happen often even in more traditionally shot films. In fact, if we can take 3D as an example of what to expect, what you're more likely to get is a trite, cliched story at best that is used as a showcase for the shallow visuals and little else is done to elevate the experience because it is assumed the gimmick is good enough to elevate the experience.

Which is not to say that it's impossible. Just unlikely and the reason such a movie would be of superior quality would have little to do with subjective camera (or 3D for that matter)
If the story is en par with something like Hell's Highway, then I see no problem at all. And we've all seen great translations from medium to movie so it is possible.
 

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YES! And it should be the Half-Life movie. Is't Cinema varit'e (i don't know who to do the french accent (')) basicaly 1st person? I know, not by definition, but come on... it's very simmilar.
 

zirnitra

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Already been done see The Diving Bell and the Butterfly http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0401383/
also Lady in the Lake.


EDIT Woops, sorry I appeared to of misread your idea, I thought you said an entire film done entirely in subjective viewpoint never mind.