Poll: Game Overthinker After Mass and after thoughts

[NinjaDeathSlap]

It's important to note that he has had much flack in the past for things not limited to but including: defending Other M, calling the Halo series racist, and (this is one is probably the worst offender) liking Spider-Man 3.

How could he!?! HOW could he call Halo racist?

Well, according to him, the Spartans are symbolic of a homogenized vision of genetic perfection where everyone is essentially the same (never mind that the only reason you don't get to see what ethnicity each individual Spartan is is because, shocker, they wear fully body armor in front line combat); while the Covenant are a collective of different and divers races being portrayed as the enemy (never mind that all the races are essentially manipulated and enslaved by dictatorial religious zealots who couldn't care less about them).

I guess you could sort of see his point... if you knew nothing about the franchise... and you were drunk.

How could he say that? Master Chief even has a black friend!http://users.sau56.k12.nh.us/sbridges2/images/ilmH3_sarge_bustblk[1].jpg And where can I find the other two strikes?

Well, these comments were made in regard to Halo: Reach, which Johnson isn't in, although I get the feeling that wouldn't have mattered much to Bob anyway.

 

[Grygor]

It's important to note that he has had much flack in the past for things not limited to but including: defending Other M, calling the Halo series racist, and (this is one is probably the worst offender) liking Spider-Man 3.

How could he!?! HOW could he call Halo racist?

Well, according to him, the Spartans are symbolic of a homogenized vision of genetic perfection where everyone is essentially the same (never mind that the only reason you don't get to see what ethnicity each individual Spartan is is because, shocker, they wear fully body armor in front line combat); while the Covenant are a collective of different and divers races being portrayed as the enemy (never mind that all the races are essentially manipulated and enslaved by dictatorial religious zealots who couldn't care less about them).

I guess you could sort of see his point... if you knew nothing about the franchise... and you were drunk.

Of course we all know that the real reason is because he hates FPSes, and Halo in particular, because he hates the beer-swilling frat boys who he imagines makes up their entire fanbase, presumably because they bullied him in high school - and possibly also because they expanded the console user base beyond people who grew up with and adore his dearly beloved Nintendo.

Thus the "Halo is racist" thing doesn't arise from any deep analysis; it's just a post hoc rationalization for his own innate biases, just like his defense of Metroid: Other M, and pretty much everything else he's ever said about games.

In short, "Game Overthinker" is a huge misnomer - you don't get to pretend you're "overthinking" something when you can't be bothered to examine your own biases or properly research your topics.

 

[WanderingFool]

It's important to note that he has had much flack in the past for things not limited to but including: defending Other M, calling the Halo series racist, and (this is one is probably the worst offender) liking Spider-Man 3.

How could he!?! HOW could he call Halo racist?

Well, according to him, the Spartans are symbolic of a homogenized vision of genetic perfection where everyone is essentially the same (never mind that the only reason you don't get to see what ethnicity each individual Spartan is is because, shocker, they wear fully body armor in front line combat); while the Covenant are a collective of different and divers races being portrayed as the enemy (never mind that all the races are essentially manipulated and enslaved by dictatorial religious zealots who couldn't care less about them).

I guess you could sort of see his point... if you knew nothing about the franchise... and you were drunk.

Wait... I thought his complaint about Halo was less about race and more about religion? I believe he made the comparison of the Covenant to religion, and humanity as those not of that religion, and that the war was basically the future version of the Catholic Crusades.

Shit... now I need to watch that video again...

 

[NinjaDeathSlap]

It's important to note that he has had much flack in the past for things not limited to but including: defending Other M, calling the Halo series racist, and (this is one is probably the worst offender) liking Spider-Man 3.

How could he!?! HOW could he call Halo racist?

Well, according to him, the Spartans are symbolic of a homogenized vision of genetic perfection where everyone is essentially the same (never mind that the only reason you don't get to see what ethnicity each individual Spartan is is because, shocker, they wear fully body armor in front line combat); while the Covenant are a collective of different and divers races being portrayed as the enemy (never mind that all the races are essentially manipulated and enslaved by dictatorial religious zealots who couldn't care less about them).

I guess you could sort of see his point... if you knew nothing about the franchise... and you were drunk.

Wait... I thought his complaint about Halo was less about race and more about religion? I believe he made the comparison of the Covenant to religion, and humanity as those not of that religion, and that the war was basically the future version of the Catholic Crusades.

Shit... now I need to watch that video again...

I did simplify what he said a little bit, so there may have been something about religion in there too (it's kinda hard to avoid religion when talking about the Covenant). But I think I got the main crux of it.

 

[Bassik]

I'd hate to see the internet if it existed in the 60's, and the final episode of the Prisoner just aired. That would have been a shitstorm, people hated the ending, found it too confusing, weird, didn't answer who number 1 was, and ended very ambiguously. McGoohan actually had to go into hiding for two weeks!
I wonder, would the people from the internet demand he change the ending? Retake the Prisoner?

That would have been horrible, for today Fall Out is considered one of the greatest ending to a TV series ever made.

And I like Bob, I follow all his shows here and on Screwattack. You don't have to agree with him to like him, and I agree with him a lot.

 

[Something Amyss]

You think you have rights? Stop being such an entitled ***** and hand over all your money!

XD

That's about the thrust of things, it seems.

In all seriousness, the artistic integrity is the thing that gets me the most. If you read any of the behind-the-scenes stuff, or look at the stuff they cut out... they don't HAVE any artistic integrity

I think the issue starts at the point you have decided to make money off your product. Now, I'm not saying that you have no artistic value if you make a product, but simply making it a commercial product bumps against the artistry. Unless you go completely indie, your work will come up against all sorts of external hurdles. You have already said "it's okay to let people tamper with my work" to some extent. You have inherently compromised your artistic integrity.

Bioware, it seems, did it one more. Or ten more.

 

[Tono Makt]

But the other side of this, almost predominantly game "journalists", have acted like bigger "babies" than the Retake movement ever has. They've conducted themselves with malice towards a legitimate group and have used their platforms to act like schoolyard bullies. Whether they are doing this because they honestly feel this way or because they see an opportunity to get more page views...

And every time they do something like this, we fall for it and give them the page views. Even if we don't watch the entire video, we've at least clicked on the page and pressed play. Doesn't matter if we've shut it off after a couple minutes (like you did, and I did), we pressed play on it and given it more attention than it deserves.

And we've posted about it, which doesn't help matters. Sigh. And I used to have respect for Bob's opinions on things.