Poll: Genes and children Or why some should not have kids
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I am currently in the process of getting my MD possibly specializing in medical genetics and the truth is if we want to remove bad genes no one should breed. Everyone carries something like 10 fatal genetic diseases that are recessive. So start worrying about that when you think about breeding.
What's so bad about baldness?
It's not a health condition, and whilst it is probably sucky to be losing your hair, is it not liberating too? Shave it and forget about it. I do like my long hair, but I can see advantages to it not being there.
In general, I have a deep dis-trust for anyone who is entirely comfortable with telling other people what they should be doing, or can and can't do. The arrogance is strong with this one.
It's not a health condition, and whilst it is probably sucky to be losing your hair, is it not liberating too? Shave it and forget about it. I do like my long hair, but I can see advantages to it not being there.
In general, I have a deep dis-trust for anyone who is entirely comfortable with telling other people what they should be doing, or can and can't do. The arrogance is strong with this one.
Aside from severe genetic diseases like Muscular Dystrophy and Huntington's, what the hell qualifies 'bad genes'? Shit like baldness, pale skin or 'unattractive' features aren't anything more than an inconveniences. Why should someone not be allowed to procreate because they are deemed 'unfit' to do so? It's fucking sickening.
What about the gays, should we sterilise all of them to stop them reproduci- oh wait.
I'm all for restricting breeding down to about 10% of the world's population for a generation or so, however, but chosen at random so we don't inadvertently fuck things up. (tho it would be hilarious if the randomly chosen ones were all guys or all women.)
Way too many people, and way too many people who think a smaller version of them is absolutely necessary to have a complete life.
At the same time, I'm pleased someone else is bringing up kids so I don't need to do it just to keep the human race going.
I can't even look after my basic groceries, always forgetting to put things back in the fridge or put the lids on things, I think a baby would last about two days in my care.
If we can have selective genetic breeding, how about filtering out the people with genes that make them the sort of arrogant fuckknuckles who rate hair and skin condition over intelligence and personality?
Get rid of all those and we'd have a less beautiful but far happier population.
In my opinion, I'd rather keep Prof Stephen Hawking than Justin Bieber, this woman thinks the opposite.
I'm all for restricting breeding down to about 10% of the world's population for a generation or so, however, but chosen at random so we don't inadvertently fuck things up. (tho it would be hilarious if the randomly chosen ones were all guys or all women.)
Way too many people, and way too many people who think a smaller version of them is absolutely necessary to have a complete life.
At the same time, I'm pleased someone else is bringing up kids so I don't need to do it just to keep the human race going.
I can't even look after my basic groceries, always forgetting to put things back in the fridge or put the lids on things, I think a baby would last about two days in my care.
If we can have selective genetic breeding, how about filtering out the people with genes that make them the sort of arrogant fuckknuckles who rate hair and skin condition over intelligence and personality?
Get rid of all those and we'd have a less beautiful but far happier population.
In my opinion, I'd rather keep Prof Stephen Hawking than Justin Bieber, this woman thinks the opposite.
If there is one right you can never take away from people is their right to make sexy time (and by extension, babies). There'd be no way to police it, and people would most definitely do it anyways. "Ugly" is a completely subjective thing, and the fact that someone would seriously suggest an sort of "ugly police" is downright sickening if not blatantly comical.
...Besides, the world needs "ugly" people. They end up becoming the smart people that invent everything....
...Besides, the world needs "ugly" people. They end up becoming the smart people that invent everything....
Only just saw the poll, if only those with good makeup get to live, can I finally fulfil my dream of going to the queue outside my local nightclub and machinegunning it?
Because damn there's some godawful makeup on some of them people, applied with a fucking shovel. Note I said people, not just women, fuck me, metrosexual is going way over the top.
I'd also consider a McDonalds or Dunkin donuts drive thru every 100 yards a more relevant cause for obesity than any gene
Because damn there's some godawful makeup on some of them people, applied with a fucking shovel. Note I said people, not just women, fuck me, metrosexual is going way over the top.
I'd also consider a McDonalds or Dunkin donuts drive thru every 100 yards a more relevant cause for obesity than any gene
Bad genes that gives you less desired traits such as a weak heart can be fixed easier in the future was technology advances.
The thing about selective breeding would cause better parents, was that her or your words?
It's a stupid argument, of course the people from Jersey Shore would make excellent parents!
The whole idea makes me sick, if anything, people should only be allowed to have kids if they are right in the head, not based on how they look. That will stop bad parents, not the other way around.
The thing about selective breeding would cause better parents, was that her or your words?
It's a stupid argument, of course the people from Jersey Shore would make excellent parents!
The whole idea makes me sick, if anything, people should only be allowed to have kids if they are right in the head, not based on how they look. That will stop bad parents, not the other way around.
I agree completely with this.
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There's more than enough homo sapiens roaming this planet. The only problem is defining good genes. Appearance shouldn't have major influence on the decision, instead it should focus on genetical diseases and maximizing intelligence.
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There's more than enough homo sapiens roaming this planet. The only problem is defining good genes. Appearance shouldn't have major influence on the decision, instead it should focus on genetical diseases and maximizing intelligence.
Not letting bald/bad skinned/people with disabilities breed? Stinks of eugenics, and I don't like it.
The thing here is, what are "bad genes"?
Does it mean people with mental illnesses or disabilities? (in this case I still think they should have kids, my mother had a mental illness, and I enjoy existing.)
What about people like I mentioned above, bald people, people with bad skin, should they breed (again, bias on my part, I've got ezcema and bad eyesight, and I wouldn't mind breeding.)
Okay, if we put them in, how about ugly people? But what is ugly?
See, we quickly descend into a pit of Hitler-esque tomfoolery with selective breeding.
Also, the problems third world countries aren't caused by lots of bald people, or even people with disabilities, it's caused by deeply rooted social problems (primarily education, education affects health-care, politics, infrastructure ect.) And you can't "breed out" social problems.
The thing here is, what are "bad genes"?
Does it mean people with mental illnesses or disabilities? (in this case I still think they should have kids, my mother had a mental illness, and I enjoy existing.)
What about people like I mentioned above, bald people, people with bad skin, should they breed (again, bias on my part, I've got ezcema and bad eyesight, and I wouldn't mind breeding.)
Okay, if we put them in, how about ugly people? But what is ugly?
See, we quickly descend into a pit of Hitler-esque tomfoolery with selective breeding.
Also, the problems third world countries aren't caused by lots of bald people, or even people with disabilities, it's caused by deeply rooted social problems (primarily education, education affects health-care, politics, infrastructure ect.) And you can't "breed out" social problems.
Clearly she is missing some good genes here self?
Oh and sometimes genes are not passed on from one generation to another, or even whole populations won't have then. (lactase-persistent for example)
And who defines what good and bad genes are? Plus some of the greatest minds had baldness or other "bad" genes.
Does this mean that they are not allowed give their children to be bald but smart?
Oh and sometimes genes are not passed on from one generation to another, or even whole populations won't have then. (lactase-persistent for example)
And who defines what good and bad genes are? Plus some of the greatest minds had baldness or other "bad" genes.
Does this mean that they are not allowed give their children to be bald but smart?
Thanks for the rooting. That sounded dirty anyway. I didn't expect this one to get many hits, maybe a few and then waist away. Guess I have to put my view in now hu?Tanakh said:Yeah, i know... but OP seems like a nice guy, he seems fond about the girl and kinda a shy guy (even if she did said some impressively stupid things). I am rooting for himHagi said:And yeah, knew about that
And pff, socialist ain't that extremist, go to your local socialist party cometee and you will see that they are quite reasonable (I hope, might be that your local socialist ARE crazy). I wouldn't even call Hitler an extreme right or left... given his military campaign record i would just call him extremely lucky and stupid, but don't know for sure, haven't read his book to get into his ideology, but TBH i don't have enough time in my life to be reading such crap.
Anyway little back ground on her 6 foot blonde blue eyed hits the gym 3 times a week. You know the type is she vain hell yes. Her goal in life is marry rich and live as a trophy wife. We do get along on most thing so yeah she my friend nothing more nothing less.
Anyway this came about last night when we where hanging out at a club. She pushed my hair line back and asked something. I shot back "Just in the gene code" And here I am now.
I might be willing to gene pick on hunting and sickle cell. I would hope I have more to offer then my looks. Yeah I don't know I mean also look at the Spartans they killed any child who was no "Perfect" and we think of them as some of the greatest warriors ever. We still use their model for a lot of the world military.
That all said I'll be honest I posted this in hope of finding reason why it was wrong. Knowing very little about genetics I didn't like where my though process was going. So please carry on I'm enjoying this.
Also, look at the UK's Royal Family for results of selective breeding, no chins, early onset baldness and only just capable of waving and being driven around at the same time for about an hour each month before they need another skiing holiday.
They also need to be shown which way around to hold the scissors whenever they cut the ribbon to open some new supermarket, or they'll gush blue all over the carpet.
I think we'd best leave it to random human nature.
On a side note, still amuses me when I see clips online of US news reporters asking the british public about the royal wedding and finding out that they 'dont give a crap about it'.
They also need to be shown which way around to hold the scissors whenever they cut the ribbon to open some new supermarket, or they'll gush blue all over the carpet.
I think we'd best leave it to random human nature.
On a side note, still amuses me when I see clips online of US news reporters asking the british public about the royal wedding and finding out that they 'dont give a crap about it'.
What is intelligence? How can you differentiate it from the kind of book-smarts acquired from school? What about people with different talents? If we focus on making a race of super-intelligent beings, who fixes the crappers, who is the tailor?Soods said:
I don't think genetic screening would be a bad thing; it would be good for people to be aware if there is a chance their kids would have a horrible disease from a recessive gene or whatever.
However, actually banning people from having kids because of those genes? Hells no. You can even get forms of IVF treatment that allow you to check that a child will not have a genetic illness waaaay before they're even born. Before they've even split into two seperate cells.
However, actually banning people from having kids because of those genes? Hells no. You can even get forms of IVF treatment that allow you to check that a child will not have a genetic illness waaaay before they're even born. Before they've even split into two seperate cells.
Hey guys, let's lay off on this "DON'T BREED IF YOU'RE UGLY WHAT A NAZI" circlejerk. Nobody gives a damn about that. Let's talk about something else, like Huntington's. A person with Huntington's has a 50% chance to give it to each offspring. The two choices you can offer this person are "Do you want to exercise your God-given right to have a child, knowing that a celestial coin toss will determine whether his life is going to be ruined before it starts" and "How about you fucking adopt?". I don't mean disrespect to people who live with their hereditary disorders; but if you have a bad hand, don't make a bet.
Or fix the game by gettin IVF? That way the child is still biologically yours AND it won't have huntingtons.Fleaman said:
Everyone on this thread seems to have forgot that it exists...