Poll: Girls Don't Like Assholes.

[viranimus]

I LOATHE the "confidence" BS. If a girl likes an asshole, shes not attracted to his confidence. Shes attracted to a litany of other things that his "confidence" also brings. And usually when a woman is that shallow, once she has what she wants, she wont be hanging around with an asshole anyway, and thats not the type of woman anyone should want to associate with.

But why are we trying to marginalize women to be represented by some of their worst case examples?

 

[Blow_Pop]

I wholeheartedly agree. But remember everyone is different. Confidence is very important. Also the fear of rejection is something guys need to get over. "you miss 100% of the shots you do not take."

Edit: while everyone is different, here are some things I found most women respond to:
-good personnel hygiene
-positive attitude
-decent listening skills
-being physically fit/healthy

I will agree with MOST of these points. My source? I'm a fucking woman and I know what the hell I want.

The one I will slightly disagree on is the physically fit/healthy. The reasoning why is because most of the men I have encountered (note: not a generalisation just something I've noticed from talking to my guy friends over the years) seem to think that physically fit/healthy means that you go to the gym daily and work out til you are nothing but muscle. SOME women(myself included) find an over abundance of muscle (like what guys who go to the gym constantly have) to be disgusting. Some of us are just happy if you are healthy for YOU.

Now you might ask, what does that mean? It means don't listen to the medical profession if they say you are overweight for your height. It means BMI means jack shit(that one has actually been debunked that your BMI can determine if you are overweight). It means that everybody is different and what might be healthy for one person may be underweight for another or overweight for another.

From my experience dealing with girls(I still don't fucking understand them even though I date them on occasion) a lot of us are fickle and shallow creatures.

Confidence does a lot for a girl though. That is the biggest generalisation I can make that honestly is true. However it is true because PEOPLE in general tend to be attracted (not just romantically speaking but more like drawn to them like two magnets kind of thing I guess is the best I can explain it) to confident people. Regardless of gender or sexual orientation or any of that. Confidence attracts others to you like a light attracts bugs at night.

"But Panzer" you might ask, "then why aren't they dating guys like us?" The answer is simple.

Truth be told, a LOT of guys who think that way are Nice Guys[sup]TM[/sup]. The guys who ***** about being friendzoned because they (to put it in your words) think they are above it. Or because they expect that since they gave a girl attention and were nice to them they DESERVE something in return other than just her friendship. Hygiene, confidence, and manners will go a long way with a girl. That and not expecting anything out of her. If you meet a girl who talks to you and seems to enjoy the conversation then for crissakes, just enjoy the conversation. Oh and leave the "women belong in the kitchen" bullshit far away. I've been known to drop kick(metaphorically speaking but I still hurt them damn it) guys who try to tell me where "my place" in life is. Make no assumptions on another person apart from what they tell you about themselves.

I can't speak for all women.
I don't like arseholes. I don't get the "treat 'em mean, keep 'em keen."
If you treat me mean, you can kiss my ass. The second a guy treats me like shit he can get out my life. I don't need people like that bringing me down and I certainly deserve to be treat better.

Some girls have incredibly low self esteem which is why they stay/get with with dickheads, or some girls just want a bad boy.

Although you should understand. Just because you call that guy a dickhead doesn't mean he is. If you don't know them and are just slagging them off because they're with the girl you want then I don't think it's them who's the prick.

Also, this ^ I hold a firm belief that if you are slagging them off just because they're with the girl you want then it is YOU who are the prick/asshole rather than the other guy. Especially if you don't know him or anything about their relationship.

Captcha: know thyself
I found that appropriate...

 

[mrdude2010]

A lot of women pretend to not like assholes, but they seem attracted to them nonetheless. If they have a certain "type" of guy that they're attracted to, they'll keep dating guys of that same type regardless of how past relationships ended, and since guys of the same type tend to be somewhat similar, their relationship ends poorly and they start bitching on facebook about how every guy is an asshole.

 

[Samurai Silhouette]

Is this seriously a thread trying to dissect a whole gender's opinion? What ever happened to meeting people irl and getting to know them instead of lumping them into a statistic?

 

[Deadyawn]

Er, I can't say I really know considering I'm not a girl but speaking from personal experience, personally, I don't like assholes. Just in general. Maybe thats just me but I like nice people a lot better than jerks.

So is there honestly anybody here who likes "assholes"? Because that seems kind of...improbable. From where i'm standing at least.

 

[AstylahAthrys]

We don't try to like assholes, but sometimes assholes pretend to be nice to get laid. They show more confidence, which we eat up, and we don't know them like the other guys do. This is, of course, a generalization. I'm sure some girls like assholes and others can see right through the routine.

Relationships are complicated shit.

 

[mad825]

Now you might ask, what does that mean? It means don't listen to the medical profession if they say you are overweight for your height. It means BMI means jack shit(that one has actually been debunked that your BMI can determine if you are overweight). It means that everybody is different and what might be healthy for one person may be underweight for another or overweight for another.

...Because doctors take the BMI system deadly serious.

The BMI index gives an idea on what your ideal weight should be. The doctor has to take into account the person's physic and lifestyle (I.e is he a rugby player or athlete) in-order to understand whether the inconsistent result is explained. In such case, they also may measure your waist.

Having a high or low BMI doesn't mean life or death but it does comes down to why is it high/low. Such as it's perfectly acceptable for a small build male to have a low BMI. (although you will still fail a medical if you were joining the army or giving blood.)

But know this, people don't gain muscle sitting on their arse and they often rationalise their own health.

 

[jackpackage200]

I wholeheartedly agree. But remember everyone is different. Confidence is very important. Also the fear of rejection is something guys need to get over. "you miss 100% of the shots you do not take."

Edit: while everyone is different, here are some things I found most women respond to:
-good personnel hygiene
-positive attitude
-decent listening skills
-being physically fit/healthy

I will agree with MOST of these points. My source? I'm a fucking woman and I know what the hell I want.

The one I will slightly disagree on is the physically fit/healthy. The reasoning why is because most of the men I have encountered (note: not a generalisation just something I've noticed from talking to my guy friends over the years) seem to think that physically fit/healthy means that you go to the gym daily and work out til you are nothing but muscle. SOME women(myself included) find an over abundance of muscle (like what guys who go to the gym constantly have) to be disgusting. Some of us are just happy if you are healthy for YOU.

Now you might ask, what does that mean? It means don't listen to the medical profession if they say you are overweight for your height. It means BMI means jack shit(that one has actually been debunked that your BMI can determine if you are overweight). It means that everybody is different and what might be healthy for one person may be underweight for another or overweight for another.

From my experience dealing with girls(I still don't fucking understand them even though I date them on occasion) a lot of us are fickle and shallow creatures.

Confidence does a lot for a girl though. That is the biggest generalisation I can make that honestly is true. However it is true because PEOPLE in general tend to be attracted (not just romantically speaking but more like drawn to them like two magnets kind of thing I guess is the best I can explain it) to confident people. Regardless of gender or sexual orientation or any of that. Confidence attracts others to you like a light attracts bugs at night.

I should have been more clear, my mistake. I meant eating proper meals and exercising within reason. A lot of guys who complain about "the friendzone" or "girls don't like nice guys" suffer from being fairly overweight which makes them unattractive.

Exercise can lead to a higher self esteem which leads to more confidence. http://www.ehow.com/how-does_4674326_exercise-improve-mental-health.html

 

[Panzer_God]

Well, you did say that it now looks like people are just whining rather than asking how they improve. Could it simply be that now you are a bit more mature about your opinions of women than when you were 16, and that you did your own fair share of whining (come on now, we all have ) and only recently have begun to realize how immature whining about how not every girl likes you is?

And I do kind of like how you touch on confidence being important, but remember that it really does come down to whether or not she likes you. All the confidence in the multiverse won't change a girl's opinion if she is just not interested to begin with.

Oh hell yeah I whined as a 16 year old, I still have my poems from then to prove it! The difference was exactly what I said, I didn't write about why girls were mean for not liking me, I wrote about what was wrong with me that girls didn't like me. I'm fine with whining, but don't be an egotist about it.

 

[manic_depressive13]

I find a bit of uncertainty and social awkwardness to be really endearing because I can relate to it. Confident people tend to be more optimistic and outgoing, and that pissess me off. There's a lot of middle ground between being an insecure wreck and being an alpha male. Women like varying degrees of confidence and more is not always better in every woman's eyes.

 

[Panzer_God]

I wholeheartedly agree. But remember everyone is different. Confidence is very important. Also the fear of rejection is something guys need to get over. "you miss 100% of the shots you do not take."

Edit: while everyone is different, here are some things I found most women respond to:
-good personnel hygiene
-positive attitude
-decent listening skills
-being physically fit/healthy

I will agree with MOST of these points. My source? I'm a fucking woman and I know what the hell I want.

The one I will slightly disagree on is the physically fit/healthy. The reasoning why is because most of the men I have encountered (note: not a generalisation just something I've noticed from talking to my guy friends over the years) seem to think that physically fit/healthy means that you go to the gym daily and work out til you are nothing but muscle. SOME women(myself included) find an over abundance of muscle (like what guys who go to the gym constantly have) to be disgusting. Some of us are just happy if you are healthy for YOU.

Now you might ask, what does that mean? It means don't listen to the medical profession if they say you are overweight for your height. It means BMI means jack shit(that one has actually been debunked that your BMI can determine if you are overweight). It means that everybody is different and what might be healthy for one person may be underweight for another or overweight for another.

From my experience dealing with girls(I still don't fucking understand them even though I date them on occasion) a lot of us are fickle and shallow creatures.

Confidence does a lot for a girl though. That is the biggest generalisation I can make that honestly is true. However it is true because PEOPLE in general tend to be attracted (not just romantically speaking but more like drawn to them like two magnets kind of thing I guess is the best I can explain it) to confident people. Regardless of gender or sexual orientation or any of that. Confidence attracts others to you like a light attracts bugs at night.

I should have been more clear, my mistake. I meant eating proper meals and exercising within reason. A lot of guys who complain about "the friendzone" or "girls don't like nice guys" suffer from being fairly overweight which makes them unattractive.

I just think that any time someone uses a phrase similar to "girls don't like nice guys" it's because they're a social reject without the level of social coherency necessary to not be a mouth-breathing cretin. Hi, I'm tired of putting up with people's bullshit! But you can call me angry!

 

[Loonyyy]

I've always thought it's kind of a perverse reaction:

-"She doesn't like me. There must be something wrong with her!" It's kind of pathetic and misogynistic. Of course, I'm paraphrasing and generalising this, but as most people have some sort of selection criteria, if they don't want you, you probably don't meet it. It's kind of hypocritical of some of us to blame women for judging us like we judge them.

 

[Panzer_God]

I've always thought it's kind of a perverse reaction:

-"She doesn't like me. There must be something wrong with her!" It's kind of pathetic and misogynistic. Of course, I'm paraphrasing and generalising this, but as most people have some sort of selection criteria, if they don't want you, you probably don't meet it. It's kind of hypocritical of some of us to blame women for judging us like we judge them.

I've always wondered this, and trust me, this is not a personal attack on any level, but do people actually have selection criteria? It's legitimate curiosity, because I've never really had criteria, I just go with what feels right. I can't help but wonder if I'd have avoided some problems by having criteria.

 

[JoesshittyOs]

Fuck muffins.

The awesome part is I now don't have to contribute to this thread, because you put that poll option. I technically am staying on topic. I beat the system. Enjoy this waste of web space.

 

[Loonyyy]

I've always thought it's kind of a perverse reaction:

-"She doesn't like me. There must be something wrong with her!" It's kind of pathetic and misogynistic. Of course, I'm paraphrasing and generalising this, but as most people have some sort of selection criteria, if they don't want you, you probably don't meet it. It's kind of hypocritical of some of us to blame women for judging us like we judge them.

I've always wondered this, and trust me, this is not a personal attack on any level, but do people actually have selection criteria? It's legitimate curiosity, because I've never really had criteria, I just go with what feels right. I can't help but wonder if I'd have avoided some problems by having criteria.

Well, it's more of an abstraction than I made out. People don't generally go: My partner has this, this and this, in these quantities. But they do have things they're attracted to, usually things like confidence as you said, certain personalities, certain looks, and usually some form of healthiness and hygiene. I can't speak for everyone, but I know that I am certainly not attracted to every girl I see, and I know for a fact that most of them aren't attracted to me. At some point people are choosing, and if you're not what they're looking for, it's not their problem.

EDIT: So what feels right is effectively the criteria. What feels right for different people is different.

 

[FilipJPhry]

I really like your avatar. Best in the world! But I have to say women like a dominant man. Asshole or not. I'm a gentleman. I pick up women without looking like a Pick-up artist. You can be an Alpha or Beta and if you choose your words correctly, you can get girls to succumb to your will.

 

[Panzer_God]

Fuck muffins.

The awesome part is I now don't have to contribute to this thread, because you put that poll option. I technically am staying on topic. I beat the system. Enjoy this waste of web space.

Every poll I've ever made has had a random option just to give creative people like you a chance to express their individuality. The strange part is how many times the thread degenerated so that they became discussions of the aside.

I really like your avatar. Best in the world! But I have to say women like a dominant man. Asshole or not. I'm a gentleman. I pick up women without looking like a Pick-up artist. You can be an Alpha or Beta and if you choose your words correctly, you can get girls to succumb to your will.

I'm always fine with being the Beta, I'm the best wingman you'll ever find because I have no f*cks left to give, I flirt with everyone and I'm pretty good at it.

and yes, CM Punk rocks.

 

[Captain_Fantastic]

the main reason girls go for "assholes" is because they show a higher level of personal confidence than most of the "friendzoned" men

the women don't notice the asshole being an asshole as much as they notice how easily the asshole puts himself on the top of the social ladder.

so maybe if some of you people in the "friendzone" grew some balls and proved you were a guy worth being around and not the guy who tries his hardest to be around her and give her everything, then maybe you wouldn't be complaining about being in the friendzone in the first place.

 

[Panzer_God]

the main reason girls go for "assholes" is because they show a higher level of personal confidence than most of the "friendzoned" men

the women don't notice the asshole being an asshole as much as they notice how easily the asshole puts himself on the top of the social ladder.

so maybe if some of you people in the "friendzone" grew some balls and proved you were a guy worth being around and not the guy who tries his hardest to be around her and give her everything, then maybe you wouldn't be complaining about being in the friendzone in the first place.

Welcome to my point, glad to have you around