Poll: GOG , Picking up region priceing - Droping values.

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RedBackDragon

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http://www.gog.com/news/announcement_big_preorders_launch_day_releases_coming

As an Australian i have only one sentiment about region pricing *&%!#$()&!@#$^ beyond that i am not the only one from the Greeks to Spanish and Romanians very few people are pleased about this.
 

Tanis

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It's not really GOG's fault, is it?

I mean, they've bitched about having to do this before.
Their hands being tied thanks to the assholes who actually own the IPs.
 

Smooth Operator

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Well they are very clear about it, when there is regional hustling going on publishers are to blame so you can tell right away who is taking a dump in your wallet.

It's bullshit especially since I live in a region that has about 1/3 the salaries of US but price conversion still comes over as one dollar to one euro.
 

Arakasi

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GG GOG. What happened to putting your foot down? Are you going to start letting in DRM games just to satisfy big publishers too?
 

Arakasi

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Mr.K. said:
Well they are very clear about it, when there is regional hustling going on publishers are to blame so you can tell right away who is taking a dump in your wallet.
Tanis said:
It's not really GOG's fault, is it?

I mean, they've bitched about having to do this before.
Their hands being tied thanks to the assholes who actually own the IPs.
By this logic, should they not let in games with DRM? I mean their hands are tied with that too.

I really thought they were a company that would not stand for this kind of bullshit practice before, but I guess I was wrong. I guess I will have to go back to buying imports.
 

The Madman

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If I had to guess this was probably the only way they could get some publisher to sign up with them, thus the upcoming release announcements as well. Unfortunate but also extremely understandable. If nothing else hopefully it'll be a publisher worth the effort.

My main worry is that now that they've allowed this for one publisher, what's to stop those that had previously signed up with GOG from threatening to pull their catalogue if they aren't also allowed the same regional pricing option?
 

Pink Gregory

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The Madman said:
My main worry is that now that they've allowed this for one publisher, what's to stop those that had previously signed up with GOG from threatening to pull their catalogue if they aren't also allowed the same regional pricing option?
If a game's already been agreed to be put up there DRM free and without region pricing, I doubt that the rights-holder has had to have their arm twisted to do so.

This is a damned if you do/if you don't situation. This insistence on worldwide pricing could well be the barrier that prevented GOG from signing a deal with 2K/Zenimax/any other big publisher that holds the most wished-for games on GOG.

How many people would be just as disappointed (this is a hypothetical, here) if GOG came out and announced, "Our insistence on maintaining worldwide pricing is a core value, therefore we must announce that we will never be signing a deal with Disney (for Lucasarts), Zenimax (Elder Scrolls), 2K (Civilization, Borderlands etc)". Now, personally, I could live with that, but GOG has already admitted that their inaugural years were spent chasing the 'low hanging fruit of our industry'. A glut of classic releases followed by a drought, because everything else is locked up in labyrinthine publisher bollocks.

Again, I could live with GOG being niche (though I buy more indies on GOG than oldies); but how long could GOG last, when the old games dry up and the indies only come up to a year late, after they've been on Steam, Humble Bundled, and everyone's picked it up in deep discount sales?

There aren't many people that would happily revert to one release a week. This is probably why GOG decided to pursue newer and indie titles, and abandoned their fixed $5.99 and $9.99 price points. There was just as big a controversy when that happened.

But are people complaining that STALKER was released DRM free on GOG? Are people complaining that GOG will be selling Wasteland 2, Pillars of Eternity and Torment: Tides of Numenara?

I'm not really pleased about this, but I'm not about to buy into the slippery slope argument yet. It remains to be seen what the games that forced this change are, and whether or not it does affect the back catalogue. There was a huge controversy when GOG decided to start selling DLC and season passes for episodic games. But there are maybe 10-15 of those in the 700-strong catalogue. It's easy to see the regionally price-jacked game and not support it. If you can't but it at worldwide pricing on GOG, you can't buy it at worldwide pricing anywhere else, without importing.

Obviously GOG now believes that DRM-free is the most important point of all, and yes it's disappointing that other values have fallen to the wayside (although not necessarily, this *could* just be for these new releases); but when DRM free becomes the industry standard, then maybe we can take up that new cause. It's a teething problem for a new world without borders, not just in the game industry.

Unfortunately, as long as Steam allows it, any publisher has GOG's balls in a vice when it comes to negotiations. Why release their game on GOG, with all these caveats that their shareholders don't like - and have to deal with the fallout from that - when they can release on the market leading PC distribution platform with none of those barriers? There's nothing that GOG can really offer other than a slight boost in sales and customer goodwill towards that publisher. That's the position they're in. The publishers, as always, forcing the distributor's hand.

Not that that means GOG is abandoning DRM-free anytime soon. Once they do, then I take this all back, but I don't believe that'll happen. People were saying the same things when they announced DLC and episodic games. Hell people were probably saying the same thing when it became GOG as opposed to Good Old Games.
 

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Mr.K. said:
Well they are very clear about it, when there is regional hustling going on publishers are to blame so you can tell right away who is taking a dump in your wallet.

It's bullshit especially since I live in a region that has about 1/3 the salaries of US but price conversion still comes over as one dollar to one euro.
Couldn't agree more and it's even worse with the UK currency.

I've tried preordering stuff from UK Amazon and the conversion rates to my own money is simply just insane, a 1/3 more than the actually conversion rates here.
 

CpT_x_Killsteal

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I can just buy everything on Kinguin for a cheaper price anyway. Though I suspect GoG just lost most of it's Australian customers.
 

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CpT_x_Killsteal said:
Though I suspect GoG just lost most of it's Australian customers.
They lost me, for sure.

I'm disgusted by this, and I actually would like all of the money I spent at GoG back. Not going to happen, and a petty tantrum for sure, but I trusted them to be the ONE place on the web that had scruples, and had the global customer in mind, not the wallets of the publishers. But now, well...

I invested in them because of their DRM-FREE, ONE PRICE WORDLWIDE! policy. And if they are so willing to kick one half of their policy to the curb to satisfy companies that have their own interests in mind, I don't trust them enough to hold on to the other half. At all.
 

FoolKiller

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I wonder if gifting will be locked the way Steam is trying to do so as well? Otherwise make some friends in the cheaper parts of the world :)
 

RedBackDragon

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CpT_x_Killsteal said:
I can just buy everything on Kinguin for a cheaper price anyway. Though I suspect GoG just lost most of it's Australian customers.
hit the nail on the head right there bud :D
 

Pink Gregory

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By the way, from GOG, the announcement. Recommended reading.

GOG.com
Editor
Posted 21 hours ago
The DRM-Free Revolution Continues with Big Pre-Orders and Launch Day Releases!

Good news! GOG.com is going to bring you more fantastic launch day releases, preorders, and other exciting new content from some of our favorite developers. We've lined up 3 big titles that we will be bringing to GOG.com in the next couple of months for sale or preorder that we think will be hits with all of our gamers; and we have more equally exciting games coming up soon.

If you've been a member of the site for a long time, you may recall that when we launched sales of The Witcher 2 on GOG.com, we had to add in regional pricing. The game cost different amounts in in the US, the UK, the European Union, and Australia. We're doing something like that once again in order to bring you new titles from fantastic bigger studios. Since we don't accept currencies other than USD on GOG.com right now, we'll be charging the equivalent of the local price in USD for these titles. We wish that we could offer these games at flat prices everywhere in the world, but the decision on pricing is always in our partners' hands, and regional pricing is becoming the standard around the globe. We're doing this because we believe that there's no better way to accomplish our overall goals for DRM-Free gaming and GOG.com. We need more games, devs, and publishers on board to make DRM-Free gaming something that's standard for all of the gaming world!

That brings with it more good news, though! As mentioned, we have three games we're launching soon with regional pricing--two RPGs and a strategy game--and while we can't tell you what they are yet because breaking an NDA has more severe penalties than just getting a noogie, we're confident that you'll be as excited about these games as we are. For a limited time, we will be offering anyone who pre-orders or buys one of them a free game from a selection as a gift from GOG.com, just like we did for The Witcher 2.

If you have any questions, hit us up in the comments below and we'll be happy to answer (to the best of our ability).
 

The Artificially Prolonged

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Disappointing news. One price for all was a good policy especially for people who live in countries with embarrassingly high regional pricing *cough* Australia. Hey even here in the UK we benefited some what by being able to get games without inexact currency conversions or just straight changing the dollar sign for a pound sign, meaning we'd end up paying more.
 

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Kind of disappointing but since I don't go to GOG for new games from big publishers it's not going to impact me much unless indie devs start asking for regional pricing too. I can see them losing a fair amount of business over it but probably not so much that they will care enough to change.
 

RedBackDragon

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This is news from the gog forums i have not confirmed its truth so if anybody can it would be helpfull

[quote_1605] (Future_Suture)
Has anybody else noticed that GOG made the regional pricing video from 2012 private? [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRdfYwvGTos]
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forum page http://www.gog.com/forum/general/announcement_big_preorders_launch_day_releases_coming/page80
 

NuclearKangaroo

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i dont mind regional pricing, regional restrictions THAT pisses me off, 2K, GFWL, Konami and recently Square Enix with Thief, you can all go die in a fire
 

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Arakasi said:
GG GOG. What happened to putting your foot down? Are you going to start letting in DRM games just to satisfy big publishers too?
The entire point, if you would bother to read it, is that they're trying to entice SOME publishers to release their products DRM-free. So no, your little slippery-slope fallacy is ridiculous and unfounded.

It's a shame that they have to do region pricing to entice games into their catalog, but it's still worth it to help DRM-free stuff become more standard.

OT: The amount of knee-jerk hostility here is both astounding and utterly predictable at the same time.

And before anyone accuses me of being a raging CD Projekt fan: No, I just despise this kind of "I Refuse To Attempt To See Things From Perspectives I Don't Wish To Acknowledge" "I'm Secretly Worst Than Creationists" reaction in general. I've made it increasingly clear recently and I'm hitting a breaking point.
 

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1Life0Continues said:
CpT_x_Killsteal said:
Though I suspect GoG just lost most of it's Australian customers.
They lost me, for sure.

I'm disgusted by this, and I actually would like all of the money I spent at GoG back. Not going to happen, and a petty tantrum for sure, but I trusted them to be the ONE place on the web that had scruples, and had the global customer in mind, not the wallets of the publishers. But now, well...

I invested in them because of their DRM-FREE, ONE PRICE WORDLWIDE! policy. And if they are so willing to kick one half of their policy to the curb to satisfy companies that have their own interests in mind, I don't trust them enough to hold on to the other half. At all.
I never recall the "One Price Worldwide" thing ever being a core principle, just one they preferred to keep going if they could.

And yes, wanting all the money you spent there back, presumably without even returning the things you purchased (of course you'll say that you wouldn't dream of it) is the pettiest and most irritating of tantrums.