Poll: Going Akimbo

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KhaineII

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So, ever since the first FPS was born, players have constantly been given the option to dual wield their weapons, or use them "akimbo." I'm kind of on the fence about this gameplay mechanic, and here's why:

PROS: It's fun as fuck.

Who doesn't love scooping up a couple of pistols in L4D and L4D2 and going to town on the zombie masses, screaming bloody murder and profanities about their mothers? Plus, you look like a badass.

Take John Woo's Stranglehold for instance. You slide down banisters, jump tables, ride serving carts, and gyrate in the middle of the room systematically downing people with your "dualies." It's almost like an art form. Wet makes this mechanic even more beautiful when it allows you to target to enemies at once. Watch as you skid across the floor, in slow motion, clearing an entire room of people in a matter of seconds like your Angelina Jolie out of Wanted. It's a great time in games like L4D, and Wet where a major aspect of player enjoyment is the absurdity of it all.

But this leads me to the other side of the "fence..."

CONS - Part 1: Broken Realism

Modern Warfare 2. Oh, and I apologise for bringing it up. I know there is a million threads on it thus far, but it's such a good example.

MW2 is supposed to be a realistic representation of warfare. Or, so it's developers would have us believe. But nothing gets to me more than working through an entire campaign as a hardened, experienced, well trained Marine/SAS trooper than to suddenly find myself staggering through a market spraying bullets everywhere because I can't keep both my P90's steady. This suddenly begs the question as to what the hell my superior officers are doing? They go so far as to memorise callsigns should communications go out, but the second they see my ass flailing around two shotguns, arms fully extended outwards like a jackass, they compliment me on my fantastic skills as a Marine and let me carry on about my day?

Realism my ass.

CONS - Part Deux: It's cheap as fuck.

Akimbo Model 1887's in Multiplayer. Need I say more? At close range the Model 1887 can turn a person into pulpy oatmeal with just one shot. So give a man two of these, and suddenly he's clearing out buildings like he's John fucking Rambo. Sure, this relates back to my "PROS" which state that this can be fun as arse...and it is, but only if you're the one doing it. Getting constantly mowed down by the same fucker carrying akimbo shotguns gets pretty frustrating in a manner of seconds. Akimbo SMG's are balanced out by the fact that they're so inaccurate that you couldn't shoot yourself with them if you wanted to, but with a shotgun, the Model 1887 in particular, this isn't an issue. It's a single shot weapon, so recoil is no longer an issue.

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So, there it is. What do you all think? Agree? Disagree? Is it cheap, is it fun, is it realistic? Anything else that comes up when you think akimbo weaponry?

Does the word "akimbo" look sexy to you? Well, okay, I don't want that last question answered...
 

open trap

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akimbo only as a secondary weapon as a sniper because every one tries to get close to you. dont run around like an idiot duelwielding. i have had countless teammates lose the game for us doing that when the guy could have been killed by standing and shooting.
 

Mana Fiend

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Going Akimbo is my favourite part of L4D, especially if you go for a fun single-player and refuse to stop moving, except where the game basically forces you (waiting for lifts, and crescendo events, etc). Horribly unrealistic, but heck if it's not fun :)

Though I agree with it not being realistic. Then again, the zombie apocalypse really isn't :p
 

open trap

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Furburt said:
It don't work! The sheer concentration required to track two targets, pull the triggers and deal with the separate recoil is impossible. If you want it to be a John Woo movie, fine. If you want it to be realistic, don't.

Left 4 Dead 1 is probably the worst offender. Trying to shoot 2 .45's would probably end up breaking your wrist.

However, some are able to do it...


Basically what I'm saying is, yes you can do it, but it won't be very useful.
holy shit that was awsome
 

Wadders

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Seeing as my copy of MW2 has not yet arrived from Amazon, I cant really judge, other than to say dual weilding 1887's does seem a little over the top, even for CoD, and reloading would be impossible if you wished to keep hold of both guns. But whatever, it's still fantastic.

Furthermore, in other games, its frikkin sweet too. Take Agent 47 from the Hitman games; twin silverballers = fucking bad ass. Max Payne; twin pistols and SMGs = also very fuckin bad ass. Crysis Warhead = dual mini SMGs. You guessed it, its bad ass.

So yeah, I think dual weilding is fine. Entirely unrealistic, but entirely awesome. As long as it's balanced, there should be no issue. If ya don't like it, don't use it. Simple as.
 

KhaineII

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Furburt said:
Holy shit, he's goddamned Rambo!

open trap said:
akimbo only as a secondary weapon as a sniper because every one tries to get close to you. dont run around like an idiot duelwielding. i have had countless teammates lose the game for us doing that when the guy could have been killed by standing and shooting.
I don't know, most experiences I've had going up against anyone going akimbo is that they become an unstoppable force of human destruction. Especially with shotguns.
 

MR T3D

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the pro is enough.
before you complain about me using two guns with my TWO HANDS, let's take away your ability to be shot IN THE HEAD, chide around a corner like a pussy, magically heal up as THOUGH I DIDN'T FUCKING SHOOT YOU IN THE HEAD.
plus, dualies ARE FUCKING AWESOME ALL THE TIME.
that alone is enough to warrant them in any game.
 

Laura.

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No idea about MW2, but don't anyone dare to touch my dual handguns! I love dual wielding, even if it is unrealistic, it's way too cool.
 

Samuel Cook

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I personally think it's fine with the pistols in MW2, and when I say pistols, I mean NOT the Raging Bull and Desert Eagle. I use it with the first pistol you get, with silencers attached, great for ridding pests in a building.
 

Kinguendo

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Since when dont shotguns kill people at close range? You were talking about realism... there is your realism.
 

FallenRainbows

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It's stupid unrealistic and annoying. I hate them. It's also stupid to see someone dual wield. Apart from say Dante 'n' co.
 

Kinguendo

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I dont dual wield anything automatic... I dual wield my .44 magnums with my sniper... why? Because that IS badass! XD
 

rossatdi

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KhaineII said:
MW2 is supposed to be a realistic representation of warfare. Or, so it's developers would have us believe.
That was CoD4, MW2 not so much. Didn't they can that when Russia invaded the US?

Plus no one one would legitimately claims its a 'tactical shooter' or any of that bullshit. Its not counterstrike. And I'm going to continue to level for my dual magnums.
 

Steelfists

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KhaineII said:
MW2 is supposed to be a realistic representation of warfare. Or, so it's developers would have us believe.
Its not at all supposed to be a realistic representation of warfare.... I don't think anyone's ever claimed as much.

I think its quite easy to avoid the guys with dual shotguns. I mean, they aren't THAT much better than a shotgun on its own, due to the accuracy reduction.

And I think you mean rangers, not model 1887s. You mean the sawn off ones that have 2 shots, right? I think the 1887 has that thing where you need to move your wrist to reload it, like in terminator 2.
 

CMon

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CON #1 makes me raise the question: Do you want that degree of realism?

CON #2 makes me think about how every close range weapon (such as a shotgun or dual-welded pistols) are ineffective at long range. What, are you gonna claim that some guy shooting you with an M21 from 100 yards is unfair because you forgot to pack anything but your boomstick?