Poll: GTA IV or RDR?

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Tohuvabohu

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Red Dead Redemption.

I did like GTA4, but upon playing and beating RDR, it quickly shot up to one of my most favorite games of all time. And GTA4 isn't even close to that.

I love setting and atmosphere, and those 2 reasons alone are probably why I keep coming back to play the game. I really enjoy the vastness of the world, although it never felt "empty" as everywhere I went, I saw people riding trails, hunting, or fighting each other.

I love the western setting. And the soundtrack did an amazing job at capturing some of the spirit of Ennio Morricone's music. I was so deeply immersed in the game from beginning to end, and felt the most connected to John Marston than most other characters I play as. I really felt like I was controlling a highly skilled, pissed off killing machine.

And the entrance to Mexico was probably one of the most memorable things I've experienced in a game. The mission introducing you to mexico was exciting. As soon as the mission ended and we landed in Mexico during the sunset, I heard "Far Away" begin playing, and it really got to me.
I dunno why, but after it began playing, I simply got on my horse and rode off to my next destination. It made me think about everything that had happened during the story, and reflect on horrendously bloody assault on Fort Mercer, and the immediate slaughter of banditos upon entering mexico. I guess I realized all the people John killed to achieve his mission and get his family back, and that all the blood and death that was waiting for him in Mexico.

I don't know what the devs wanted to achieve with that song, but to me, it was a strong moment of reflection and perspective.

GTA4 never came close to giving me this kind of reaction. It was a fun game, but just didn't feel like a meaningful or memorable experience. Then again, not many games do, but RDR did.

Perhaps my biggest complaint about RDR was the fact that it had regenerating health, and it didn't feel all too challenging.
 

rutcommapat

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Ug. I hated everything about GTA. The cover-based combat was boring, the mission design was repetitive to the point of irritation, the storyline is typical GTA, just with a lot more shoehorned-in grit which really doesn't fit GTA's style at all and made everything feel inconsistent, the minigames are among the worst I've ever encountered in a freeroaming game, (Seriously, I dare anyone who's played the game to claim that they enjoy bowling.) the satire which I've come to know and love from the GTA series is handled in the most ham-fisted way possible, and Liberty City remains a really boring area to explore regardless of all the tech Rockstar used to try to make it "Realistic".

Red Dead Redemption wasn't perfect, but it was actually pretty damn good. So I'd probably go with that one.
 

Not-here-anymore

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Red Dead. Easier to navigate, weapons that feel like weapons, and cowboy hats.

...Yes, the western setting is a large factor.
Also, completed undead nightmare about 15 minutes ago. It was awesome
 

Tufty94

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I thing that GTA was much better. I never really got into Red Dead Redemption so as much as I dislike GTA 4 I still found myself able to complete it.

I'm still thinking of going back and buying RDR and UDN on disc, see if I like it when I re-visit it.
 

KielderWolf

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See now is this was a vote between GTA 4 (sans expansions) and RDR Undead Nightmare, RDR would win. But since you asked between GTA 4 and plain-old RDR, GTA wins. Even without the expansion stories. I'm sorry but I just found the game... somewhat lacking. And yes, it is bloody annoying when your horse gets magically stuck to something.
 

DarkhoIlow

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Haven't played RDR because I don't own a console and finished GTA4 on the PC.

I can recommend getting RDR instead of GTA becaues of the praises the game got(among GOTY on gamespot)compared to GTA4's success.
 

Hummmy

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Definitely Red Dead, I loved the world in it compared to GTA's grey, dreary city. Way better story/characters/voice acting/weapons and the ending in Red Dead is the best I've seen yet in a game.

I literally could not stop playing it.
I do love my westerns though!
 

Casual Shinji

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Cowabungaa said:
Casual Shinji said:
RDR was basically GTA4 without cars, buildings or bazookas, and with a doormat as the protagonist.
And shit to do outside of killing random pedestrians and the story missions. And no freakishly annoying friend sy- *ring ring* No Roman goddammit I don't want to go bowling!
Well then, what was there to do in RDR besides riding your monotonous horse across an empty, boring wasteland and generally being treated like a lacky by necrophiliacs and raping warlords?

Rockstar needs to get their priorities straight: Do they want to tell a good story or make a good game, because it's pretty obvious that they can't do both.
 

gCrusher

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RDR. Death wasn't as huge a punishment with checkpoints and the ability to keep your weapons. Sadly, glitches happen, and it's really frustrating in GTA IV when a cop accidentally flattens a pedestrian and then jumps out of their car to arrest you on the street because, hey, you did it.
 

Cowabungaa

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Casual Shinji said:
Well then, what was there to do in RDR besides riding your monotonous horse across an empty, boring wasteland and generally being treated like a lacky by necrophiliacs and raping warlords?

Rockstar needs to get their priorities straight: Do they want to tell a good story or make a good game, because it's pretty obvious that they can't do both.
Random encounters of all kinds, mostly, and those cowboy challenge things which I enjoyed quite a bit. Except the herbology one. What is this, some kind of MMO? Still, the world felt more alive, despite it being empty for quite a bit. But it's the Wild West, it wouldn't be right if it wouldn't be desolated in many areas.

GTA had very little of those things, mostly your 'friends' bothering you to hell and back. Hence why I liked the Episodes so much, they scrapped a lot of the crappy stuff of the original while still telling great stories.
 

MoNKeyYy

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Well the voting went exactly how I expected it to, but the thing that surprises me somewhat is the reasons. Obviously I already knew that people prefer Red Dead Redemption, this was to help me figure out why. I'm glad to see a large number of people praising RDR for it's setting, atmposphere and weapons. Doubly so because those are basically the only differences between it and Grand Theft Auto 4. Seriously. It's more or less the same story, the games are built on the same engine and the whole premise is basically the same, ie it's a gritty, story driven open world action adventure. What I was actually expecting to see more of was Saints Row praise (which was still there) and critisism of Grand Theft Auto 4 for not being "True to Grand Theft Auto Form" (Again, still there). This was because whenever GTA4 pops up in discussion, it seems people can't bash it fast enough and claim that it wasn't a true sequel to San Andreas. I'm happy to see people judging the game on by it's own merits.