jesus christ calm the hell down he didnt kick your dog he called a code blue on a thread that died chill the fuck out dont click on it if you dont want to see it
Gotta say Saints Row 2. Niko Bellic is just such an unappealing character, and the story from Saints Row 2 is already established.
STORY: Saints Row 2: You were on Alderman Hughes' boat when Julius, the former leader of the Third Street Saints, blew it up, you survived and were in a coma for two years, you wake up in jail, go bust out and cause mayhem on the streets of Stillwater...again, by blowing up hotels owned by the yakuza and blowing up drug labs owned by jamacians." Grand Theft Auto 4: "Come to America and do crap for your utterly unlikeable cousin."
COPS:
The cops are generally just mean-spirited traffic barriers, in both games, but... SR2: ...they're headed up by a former Third Street Saints lieutenant who was really an undercover cop named Troy Bradshaw who immediately catches heat from your gang's actions like stealing money from casinoes, but really he's just trying to do his job. GTA4: ...that's it. They're really just mean-spirited traffic barriers who keep you from ascending the clock tower with a sniper rifle.
ENEMIES:
The guys you tend to put a lot of holes in are... SR2: Gang bangers from three distinct gangs: The Ronin, The Sons of Samedi and the Brotherhood, the cops and the security team of the Ultor megacorporation. GTA4: Random guys who you kill as a means to an end.
LOCATION:
The games take place in... SR2: Stillwater, a frankly ironic name, but the city is something citizens of Los Angeles would find strikingly familiar. GTA4: Liberty City, an uninspired second coming into New York City.
I won't bother with weapons, since they all do the same thing (make people dead) so yeah.
SR2: None.
GTA4: NPCs randomly phone you up while you are trying to play and demand you take them dancing. If you don't do it immediately you loose certain perks.
Utterly ASSININE design flaw:
SR2: None.
GTA4: No checkpoints in larger missions. Drive car, blow up something, drive across town with a time limit, just make it, have to drop suitcase, cutscene, crime boss tries to shoot you, fight your way out, get on motorbike, drive across town again, chasing car, miss jump by 10 feet, other car gets away before you can get back on your bike... Do the whole fucking thing again.
I really enjoyed Grand Theft Auto 4, I thought the storyline was pretty good and that the grittyness suited the story... However, there really wasn't any of the GTA-funnyness in it.
Saint's Row and Saint's Row 2 had pretty generic, but well pulled-off (IMO) storylines and total absolute sillyness when it came to the activities and side quests, especially in SR2 and I loved every minute of them both...
All in all I prefered the Saint's Row games myself, I think GTA4 beat SR1, but SR2 kicks the crap out of GTA4!
Given the ultimate choice of sand-box crime games, I'd vote Mafia on my PC over anything else anyday.
GTA4 certainly felt like a decent attempt to put a serious face on the sandbox genre...but SR2 does what sandbox games are all about, in my opinion, TO HAVE SOME F*CKING FUN!!!
Don't get me wrong, GTA deserves the praise it gets MOSTLY. Despite all the nit-picking issues, my biggest complaint was that it tried too hard in the realism department. No one wants to do chores in a video game, and by chores I mean babysitting your f*cking friends! Sure, I shrugged it off, but d*mmit, after hours of gameplay it WILL get annoying...AND IT DOESN'T STOP!
I don't feel I need to get into why SR2 is good, in fact, I haven't even played SR2 *been poor for months >_<;;* GTA 4 was just that annoying, in the end. If it had more bank robbery-like levels, it may have redeemed itself and one of these days I can give a full bashing when I buy SR2...which I'm gonna do now...*my cell phone rings* Hello?...*Preston! It's your cousin! You wanna go get some lunch? I'm hungry!*......*I throw my cell phone out the window in pure annoyance and frustration*...-_-
You are going to get a lot of people telling you to get Saint's row on the grounds that it is a "wackier" game, which is true. However, this does not make it a better game. I actually preferred the more serious route that GTA4's story took, and if I wanted humour then the radio stations were still hilarious.
So basically, do you want a wacky slapstick action game, or an intelligent crime drama? Honestly I would just get both used.
I agree with everything you just said. Saint's Row is good for a laugh, but it is not pulling me in as GTA4 did. They are both very good sand box games, if you have to chose one, pick based on the above comments.
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