Poll: Guns and you!

[mklnjbh]

Whether you ban or not, people will still keep and use firearms. I would rather have every one in a hundred people have a tank in their driveway as long as it is documented than one in 1000 with an illegal Glock 13.

Don't ban, just make sure as many weapons are registered as possible, and restrict some ownership. (Licenses)

 

[JUMBO PALACE]

The ban of some types of firearms is reasonable. No one needs an M16 or G36 for home defense or hunting. The issue of a license for automatic, suppressed, and other extremely destructive firearms makes sense to me.

 

[Chrinik]

Great that I live in a country that hates guns, and even forbids armed rallys (and you have to be careful with any other kind of rally) of any kind, so revolting against a fashist dictator from austria usurping power again is still off the hook by our very constitution.
I love this country...even toys are treated as real guns if they look the part and fire projectiles<.<
Makes us all the more safer when some dude decides to take his illegaly bought guns and fuck everyone up, or rob a bank.

But it is not totally impossible to own a firearm, I myself have shot alot of them, and firearms in german culture are firmly integrated into society (hunters, for example), it´s just that it has a very meh-feeling to the general populace if their non hunting neighbor owns an AR-15 and a SAIGA 7.62mm and several Handguns with apropiate ammo.

Also, it goes very weird at time...the same dude who brought IPSC competitive shooting to germany, is now trying to get rid of it because it teaches "how to use firearms in high-stress, high speed situations, like a combat training."....

 

[tawmus]

I like how there is an option to ban all weapons. There is probably a dozen things in this room I am sitting in that could be used as a weapon. I'm looking at you 10th grade shop class lamp, you would make an excellent bludgeon.

 

[ajh93]

banning all types of (conventional) fire arms is one of the worst ideas i have ever heard...

 

[Khada]

Other: Educate people. Not too many professors packing.

 

[TheYellowCellPhone]

I loves me some guns. I think now it's the best: I don't have to worry that much about weapons besides shotguns, rifles and handguns.

 

[Paksenarrion]

I was sold on "a Howitzer in everyone's backyard."

 

[Shock and Awe]

The way that it is in the US is more or less about right. Just keep the automatic, explosive and other similar weapons illegal.

 

[swolf]

You shouldn't be able to walk down the street and have a gun with you. I could accept a handgun or shotgun at home or a small collection at a gun range, but both guns and owners would need to have a complete licensing and screening process, while individuals with a firearm inventory over a certain threshold automatically get put on a special watch list. All this, and it is illegal to carry a loaded gun with you off your property or any other licensed area.

Not to troll but criminals will take their guns whereever they want so only allowing people to carry in certain areas handicaps their ability to defend themselves. If somebody's family got killed in front of them and they would have had a chance to save them if they had carried their gun...how would you justify that to them? I can't think of her name but there is a famous progun woman whose parents were killed in a mall massacare and she could've stopped it if she had brought her gun into the mall but that was illegal.

 

[swolf]

You shouldn't be able to walk down the street and have a gun with you. I could accept a handgun or shotgun at home or a small collection at a gun range, but both guns and owners would need to have a complete licensing and screening process, while individuals with a firearm inventory over a certain threshold automatically get put on a special watch list. All this, and it is illegal to carry a loaded gun with you off your property or any other licensed area.

Not to troll but criminals will take their guns whereever they want so only allowing people to carry in certain areas handicaps their ability to defend themselves. If somebody's family got killed in front of them and they would have had a chance to save them if they had carried their gun...how would you justify that to them? I can't think of her name but there is a famous progun woman whose parents were killed in a mall massacare and she could've stopped it if she had brought her gun into the mall but that was illegal.

 

[MortisLegio]

I dont think you should be allowed to have automatics or pistols without a permit

(How did he know about my Howitzer?)

 

[tawmus]

How many people are really proficient with guns anyways? I've grown up with guns and with no military training I'd be hard pressed to be anything more then useless in a gun fight. Unless we're trap shooting, in that case, bring it on.

 

[vxicepickxv]

The way that it is in the US is more or less about right. Just keep the automatic, explosive and other similar weapons illegal.

They're not illegal, it's just that getting the licensing for them is a real pain in the butt. Once you have the license, you can get them.

How many people are really proficient with guns anyways? I've grown up with guns and with no military training I'd be hard pressed to be anything more then useless in a gun fight. Unless we're trap shooting, in that case, bring it on.

You actually understand gun safety though, which means I'll take you over some nutjob that just has one but doesn't understand the first thing about it. That's when somebody accidentally gets shot.

 

[Drakane]

Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto - ?You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind each blade of grass.?

True in WW2, true now.

 

[Blue_vision]

You shouldn't be able to walk down the street and have a gun with you. I could accept a handgun or shotgun at home or a small collection at a gun range, but both guns and owners would need to have a complete licensing and screening process, while individuals with a firearm inventory over a certain threshold automatically get put on a special watch list. All this, and it is illegal to carry a loaded gun with you off your property or any other licensed area.

Not to troll but criminals will take their guns whereever they want so only allowing people to carry in certain areas handicaps their ability to defend themselves. If somebody's family got killed in front of them and they would have had a chance to save them if they had carried their gun...how would you justify that to them? I can't think of her name but there is a famous progun woman whose parents were killed in a mall massacare and she could've stopped it if she had brought her gun into the mall but that was illegal.

Not at all. But is it not possible that the total number of gun crimes committed would be lowered because criminals would get caught with possession of guns in public? It's kind of like saying laws enforcing action against crimes are useless because criminals will do whatever they want.

And there are plenty of "what if" situations. What if it was illegal to carry a firearm anywhere in public and the perpetrators of that mall massacre were arrested before they even arrived? What if a proper licensing program found they had a history of violence or mental instability? What if someone in the mall at the time just chucked a bottle at their head, taking action the same way that woman says she would have?

 

[MikailCaboose]

I'm always a little against guns because I find them a somewhat lazy and inresponsible way for a non-soldier to fight.
I do however think that self-defence is an important right, so would be willing to accept them as a compromise if we can't go back to everyone carrying a sword

Depending on the sword things could get *very* messy. 'specially if they're not cared for.

 

[Mercurio128]

I think this depends entirely upon the country and its previous record with gun control. I've seen a few mentions above about how gun control doesn't lead to reduced levels of gun crime, but it seems that a fair amount of the evidence supporting this view is from academic articles which look at countries which decide to tighten their lax gun policy and observe the results after the tightening. (Canada for example)

I think this misses the point, gun crime (and gun related accidents) won't drop significantly following a tightening of gun control, simply put, everyone already has one. Where gun control is a more useful tool is in countries don't already have large gun-ownership rates. Honestly, for a country like America I can't really see a total ban having any real effect on gun related crime levels, and it will only encourage the gun nuts to go to a black market system (and if you want to keep anyone away from criminality, it's people who feel the need to horde weapons).

It's part of the culture now, other countries with historically tight gun laws have lower rates of gun crime, that's just the way it is, but now that America is used to being armed I think it'll be impossible to convince people they'd be better off if they give up their weapons.

on the other hand, should the zombie apocalypse finally happen then that's egg on my face!

 

[Double A]

I like how it is now. Better background checks would be nice, though.

You shouldn't be able to walk down the street and have a gun with you. I could accept a handgun or shotgun at home or a small collection at a gun range, but both guns and owners would need to have a complete licensing and screening process, while individuals with a firearm inventory over a certain threshold automatically get put on a special watch list. All this, and it is illegal to carry a loaded gun with you off your property or any other licensed area.

What happens if you see someone getting mugged? Just go "Drat, if only I had my gun," and walk away? Or if you yourself are about to get mugged?

Or the infamous example: what if you are in a public place, and some total lunatic starts to shoot people. What would you do then, if you didn't have a gun, or if you did? I'm not saying everyone should have a gun, but the police can't be everywhere, all the time.