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ElephantGuts

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Geo Da Sponge said:
It won't happen because the books were such unmistakeable dross that they just make me want to throw up. Fall of Reach was crippled because the author decided there had to be multiple action sequences in the book, even when Master Chief is a ten year old. I don't care about a bunch of pre-teens smacking around elite commando troops. It just brings back sickening memories of all the 'family movies' where you end up feeling sorry for the 'bad guys' because they're getting smacked around by retarded children hyped up on fairy sticks. That and the fact that the actual battle of Reach is a tiny section at the back of the book after a bunch of irrelevant stuff happend makes me want to forget this as fast as possible.

Then there's The Flood, which I have bought but have barely started because at least half the book is just the exact details of the first game listed in the most unimaginative way possible. I'd swear the author was just playing through the game and making notes, up to and including the number of enemies killed and the number of bullets he fired, occasionally adding bits like "Master Chief smiled inside his helmet", because we all know how great a writing technique that is.

And Contact Harvest, of which the first half of the book seems to be dedicated to explaining what the different acronyms mean. However, it is still relatively good, mainly because they got a different author to do a decent job.

But I've saved the worst till last. First Strike. I wanted to know how the Master Chief escaped the ruins of the Halo. I really did. But afterwards I just wanted to reject the reality out of sheer disbelief. What's up with this book? It seems like they can't go five minutes without a fast paced action sequence going past, which always has some unorthodox but hugely effective solution. There's a whole sub-plot about a crystal, which pretty much serves as nothing but an excuse for the author to write in whatever he feels like. It sounds like it came out of the mid of a seven year old.

In short, whether they go into the details of the Halo universe or not, you will end up denying what has happend in the books. What was going through the guys head when he decided to bring back several surviving Spartans that were still around at the end of First Strike? Why are none of the events mentioned in Halo 2? Are they, as Sergeant Johnson says, classified? Is that because they don't want anyone to know just how stupid the war is and that they might as well not bother because Cortana and the Chief will "have a plan"?

You're much better off reading the Mass Effect books. Certainly, the second one is quality.
I certainly won't argue that The Flood wasn't a horrible book, because it was. I'm surprised to find that a lot of people I've spoken to didn't like the other Halo books either, which makes me hesitant to defend them, but I will because I do think they were great books. I don't see how having action in them is a valid critisism, hell at one point you say there's too much action in the books, then you complained that the actual battle for Reach was just a tiny bit at the back of the book. The Fall of Reach, First Strike, and Ghosts of Onyx gave a lot of very interesting background into humanity's plight, the Covenant, and the Forerunners. And Contact Harvest did the same with the background to how the entire conflict began. Sure they weren't perfect, but I don't see how people couldn't like them.

And I did read the first Mass Effect book, haven't gotten a chance to read the second one, but I plan to along with the Gears of War book.
 

SteinFaust

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meh, i'd rather read more of the books because they've taken the game as far as they could have. and they don't focus too hard on John-117, which is a good break.
 

Geo Da Sponge

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On topic: I think there should be more Halo games, so long as you don't have a spartan or an elite as the main character. So long as they honestly try to mix it up a bit, it's cool with me.

ElephantGuts said:
I certainly won't argue that The Flood wasn't a horrible book, because it was. I'm surprised to find that a lot of people I've spoken to didn't like the other Halo books either, which makes me hesitant to defend them, but I will because I do think they were great books. I don't see how having action in them is a valid critisism, hell at one point you say there's too much action in the books, then you complained that the actual battle for Reach was just a tiny bit at the back of the book. The Fall of Reach, First Strike, and Ghosts of Onyx gave a lot of very interesting background into humanity's plight, the Covenant, and the Forerunners. And Contact Harvest did the same with the background to how the entire conflict began. Sure they weren't perfect, but I don't see how people couldn't like them.

And I did read the first Mass Effect book, haven't gotten a chance to read the second one, but I plan to along with the Gears of War book.
Sorry for the previous wall of text, but here comes another. Allow me to validate my opinion. My problem with the battle for Reach being so small is that the book is named after it, yet it gets squeezed to the back because of several pointless battles earlier on. Therefore, I felt that there was too much inappropiate action that seemed forced in. That's why I enjoyed the Mass Effect book (damn, I can't remember it's name); it kept the violence and action appropriate. It didn't just go in all guns blazing from the begining like Fall of Reach, so it made you look forward to when it did. In the same way that action movies that become recognised as good movies are the ones that make the combat properly paced throughout the film.

Actually, I quite enjoyed some moments of the books for one reason: Private Jenkins. You can actually record his career from his recruitment on Harvest to being on the orbital station in Fall of Reach to becoming infected on Halo, at which point there is actually some more stuff behind that. I did like Contact Harvest overall, it's just First Strike that made me lose my faith in the series.
 

DirkGently

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It has been stated time and time again that Master Chief will be in no more Halo games.
Quite fucking true. The slight problem is that Bungie no longer owns the Halo IP. While I sincerely doubt that they will make another Halo game, Microsoft is another thing entirely. I am curious if by Halo IP they just mean the things relating to the published games/media, or does it include the entirety of the Halo Universe that Bungie has cooked up?
 

Blazing Angel

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I played halo 3 on all difficulties and I say it left something to be desired. Also, with the addition of Forge in halo 3 I think they could have been more...well more. I also love halo too much in order to let it die so soon.

HALO MUST LIVE!
(now as for the story line....)
 
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Don't care. It's pretty much a bunch of solid FPSs, and another one wouldn't do too much harm, but it wouldn't be the end of the world if there wasn't one.
 
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I'm confused; if you could care less, why generate a poll around it?

Anyhoo, as much as I like Halo I say no. I don't want to see it getting rehashed over and over again like Mario.
 

Kermi

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The Halo franchise can fuck off and die. I didn't even want there to be a repeat of the shallow dross of halo 1, and i definitly don't want a repeat of the even shallower halo 3
Wow, did Halo personally come to your house and spit in your face? If you don't like Halo, you certainly didn't need to play the second and third games - I assume you didn't. So what's the problem?
 

jebussaves88

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I think a lot of people seem to confuse "popular" with "overhyped". The game was marketed more than most games were, sure, but as far as I'm aware, Bungie didn't break any promises with the game. Whether you liked the Campaign mode or not is up to you, but as far as I can see, Bungie delivered the goods. Now Halo 3 is not my favourite game on 360. It probably comes in around 6th or 7th, but going online, all one sees is bitching about it.
A thread was made on this forum asking what gaming series everyone would delete from gaming history. I wasn't actually surprised to see that Halo came out on top, because most people claimed that it had "destroyed the fps genre" and bred a wave of unoriginal Halo clones. However, if one gooes back to before Halo, you'll find that there was nothing particualrly special about those games. You had Unreal and Quake, two series that highly resemble each other anyway, Doom, and Goldeneye (plus many more, but these four are the main players) All I can see Halo is done is add new features (or perfect/refine) existing ones. Mellee attacks, vehicular combat and grenades worked better in Halo than any game I had played to date, and whilst its not my favourite game ever, I would say that a great disservice would have been done to games in general.

And if the game happens to break all sales records when it is released, then good for Microsoft, who cares? Only Sony.

(For a more relevant post to the topic of "Should there be a Halo 4, see post 17)
 

karn3

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Kermi said:
karn3 said:
The Halo franchise can fuck off and die. I didn't even want there to be a repeat of the shallow dross of halo 1, and i definitly don't want a repeat of the even shallower halo 3
Wow, did Halo personally come to your house and spit in your face? If you don't like Halo, you certainly didn't need to play the second and third games - I assume you didn't. So what's the problem?
The thread is asking for an opinion so i gave mine. It's kinda the whole point.
 

laikenf

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I couldn't care less. Now if somehow the series went on a new direction (aside from Halo Wars) I could maybe care a little more, but as of now the world DOES NOT need another FPS.
 

beddo

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Halo CE was an amazing game. At the time, fresh, innovative, the flawless co-op was it's best feature.

Halo 2 ruined the series. Halo 3 killed it completely. Please stop.
 

blood77

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Halo... Halo... Let's all admit it, Halo was ok... It was not brilliant as a series (Halo 1 was brilliant but only until the 2nd made us hate it) , it was not awful. Halo gave FPS a nice new breeze, it didn't invent anything, but it was nice. The two sequels was godawful and mediocre respectively, but the story was ok and the multiplayer didn't change much.

Let's stop trying to hate Halo to death. It is here to stay.
Yeah its like a hammer, its nothing new but is really good at what it does.
 

D_987

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MindBullets said:
It's virtually guaranteed. Halo is far too popular to just throw away.
So is "Friday the 13th". But just because millions of people love a thing does not make that thing good automatically. It is now just a cash cow. MOO!!!!!!!!
Its popular, so a new game will be released eventually - case - point : Mario