Poll: Harry Potter problem

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maddawg IAJI

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CODE-D said:
She may be the creator but I am the Fan...
Okkkkaaay? And that means what exactly? It means you can voice your complaints sure, but you can't just claim something isn't cannon just because you don't like it. J.K.Rowling is essentially the god of the world that it takes place in and she can alter it anyway she wants and it instantly becomes canon. Why? Because she created the freaking canon!
CODE-D said:
and she was lucky this was the last book. Otherwise we wouldve gotten to find out about Albus Severus dealing with Ginny and Harrys divorce because he and Ron found that they were gay for each other then Hermione committing suicide from embarrassment of the ordeal and cant take life anymore. But she comes back in the second book as a vengeful ghost.....you see where Im going with this,
Not really, no. Announcing the sexuality of a deceased character isn't going to make or break the book and the books are still quite good despite the knowledge that the headmaster came out of the closest. Plus, its useless information on a now dead character. I can do a five minute google search on good old Albus and pull out even stupider and sillier facts about him that are canon and it still wouldn't change a damn thing about the books or even probably future books.
CODE-D said:
all this "added" stuff is unnecessary and is fan disservice.
No its not, its exactly what the fans want. You haven't realized it yet, Dumbledore didn't come into the book with a full back story. Fans have bits and pieces of it, but as it stands, Dumbledore is still a relatively mysterious character, despite being a major character for 7 books. Heck, we didn't even know he had a brother until the 7th book. Major fans have always wanted to know more about the headmaster of Hogwarts and Rowling is giving them that.
 

CODE-D

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maddawg IAJI said:
CODE-D said:
She may be the creator but I am the Fan...
Okkkkaaay? And that means what exactly? It means you can voice your complaints sure, but you can't just claim something isn't cannon just because you don't like it. J.K.Rowling is essentially the god of the world that it takes place in and she can alter it anyway she wants and it instantly becomes canon. Why? Because she created the freaking canon!
CODE-D said:
and she was lucky this was the last book. Otherwise we wouldve gotten to find out about Albus Severus dealing with Ginny and Harrys divorce because he and Ron found that they were gay for each other then Hermione committing suicide from embarrassment of the ordeal and cant take life anymore. But she comes back in the second book as a vengeful ghost.....you see where Im going with this,
Not really, no. Announcing the sexuality of a deceased character isn't going to make or break the book and the books are still quite good despite the knowledge that the headmaster came out of the closest. Plus, its useless information on a now dead character. I can do a five minute google search on good old Albus and pull out even stupider and sillier facts about him that are canon and it still wouldn't change a damn thing about the books or even probably future books.
CODE-D said:
all this "added" stuff is unnecessary and is fan disservice.
No its not, its exactly what the fans want. You haven't realized it yet, Dumbledore didn't come into the book with a full back story. Fans have bits and pieces of it, but as it stands, Dumbledore is still a relatively mysterious character, despite being a major character for 7 books. Heck, we didn't even know he had a brother until the 7th book. Major fans have always wanted to know more about the headmaster of Hogwarts and Rowling is giving them that.
and yet all any slight to nonfan will ever remember of him now and all I ever hear about is
facepalm...

Dumbledore is like Darth Vader, dont explain him.
 

Lord_Nether

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I didn't have a problem at all. I liked the series and thought its ending was okay. It really wasn't that bad.
 

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maddawg IAJI said:
Dumbledore is still a relatively mysterious character, despite being a major character for 7 books. Heck, we didn't even know he had a brother until the 7th book.
Actually, it was mentioned much earlier on, that Aberforth had gotten in trouble for performing inappropirate magic on a goat. Now, the sister we knew nothing about.

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As for canon, that's always an awkward issue. However, I'd say that if it's not in the books, it doesn't matter as long as you are only reading the books.
 

Zay-el

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I haven't watched any of the movies past the 4th, though I have read the series itself and indeed liked it, up to the 6th I think. I'm sorry, I simply couldn't ever get over the fact that I considered the whole horcrux stuff to be stuff pulled straight out of the ass along the way...and don't even get me started on the Hallows themselves. Yes, I know Dumbledore is supposedly all hush-hush and everything, but that didn't make it any less cringeworthy.

Neither did I like the epilogue. It left a bad taste in my mouth, which, piled together with the number of character deaths, some of which I considered to be simply for shock value(they sure got over Moody's death pretty fast...). Altogether, it's still not a bad series and I have plenty of fun from it, but I dislike the last two books.
 

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ThaBenMan said:
Awww, that gives me a sad that you don't want to continue reading A Dance with Dragons.

Best use of pictures of jk and george that I've ever seen. I can't wait for people to get into the third season/book of the show. The red wedding is going to cause many bricks to be shat. (Don't look it up if you havn't read the books, it will be a gigantic spoiler for you.)

OT: my wife and i just watched deathly hallows 2. The ending was meeeehhhhhh...but the movie was over all enjoyable. Had a good sense of nostalgia to it. We started watching the movie series when we were in high school, so its kinda sad to see it end. The books are a little elementary for me, I guess. Never really could get into them.

OP mentioning the sorceror's stone game makes me want to dig my copy out. Was actually one of the better done games based on a movie franchise imo.
 

maddawg IAJI

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CODE-D said:
maddawg IAJI said:
CODE-D said:
She may be the creator but I am the Fan...
Okkkkaaay? And that means what exactly? It means you can voice your complaints sure, but you can't just claim something isn't cannon just because you don't like it. J.K.Rowling is essentially the god of the world that it takes place in and she can alter it anyway she wants and it instantly becomes canon. Why? Because she created the freaking canon!
CODE-D said:
and she was lucky this was the last book. Otherwise we wouldve gotten to find out about Albus Severus dealing with Ginny and Harrys divorce because he and Ron found that they were gay for each other then Hermione committing suicide from embarrassment of the ordeal and cant take life anymore. But she comes back in the second book as a vengeful ghost.....you see where Im going with this,
Not really, no. Announcing the sexuality of a deceased character isn't going to make or break the book and the books are still quite good despite the knowledge that the headmaster came out of the closest. Plus, its useless information on a now dead character. I can do a five minute google search on good old Albus and pull out even stupider and sillier facts about him that are canon and it still wouldn't change a damn thing about the books or even probably future books.
CODE-D said:
all this "added" stuff is unnecessary and is fan disservice.
No its not, its exactly what the fans want. You haven't realized it yet, Dumbledore didn't come into the book with a full back story. Fans have bits and pieces of it, but as it stands, Dumbledore is still a relatively mysterious character, despite being a major character for 7 books. Heck, we didn't even know he had a brother until the 7th book. Major fans have always wanted to know more about the headmaster of Hogwarts and Rowling is giving them that.
and yet all any slight to nonfan will ever remember of him now and all I ever hear about is
facepalm...

Dumbledore is like Darth Vader, dont explain him.
And who cares what the nonfans think? There opinion on the character doesn't matter and Dumbledore is more like Obi-Wan then Vader.
 

emeraldrafael

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your poll seems very skewed against a yes option.

Eh,t he ending could have been worse. she could have did a sapranos thing where she just cut in the middle of a sentence and the next 50 pages where blank.

or even worse there were no blank pages 9at least then you could right ina story).
 

Medimorpho

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I think the ending of the books was vague enough that it could be a different post-ending to be determined by the reader. That spawns fan fiction. If their lives were elaborated on after the end, it would just be another book series.
 

Innegativeion

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CODE-D said:
Sorry not in the main book doesnt count. Dont care about her catering to fans and there are plenty of others like me who thought JK was phoning it in near the end with this all of a sudden Dumby is gay thing and others who thought there was something between Dumby and her by their interactions and respect for each other.
And where does it say anything about mcgonagall and marriage?
If you want your fanfic

====and that's what hetero-sexual Dumbledore is, by the way, a fanfic since... you know, it's

====a non-canon piece of non-fact created by you, the fan.

to be canon, you should probably get the rights from J.K. and write your own Potter book.

She wrote the books, not you. She has 100% authority on the facts and figures of the Harry Potter world, not you. It's HER story SHE envisioned. Just because you don't like something doesn't mean "it doesn't count".

She wrote the books, and as such the stories are a result of all of the influence on her life, be they inner or exterior. If the only reason Dumbledore be gay is fan influence(not saying it is, because... why the hell would fans actively ask for such a thing?), that doesn't make it any less canon.
 

Innegativeion

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SmashLovesTitanQuest said:
A homosexual relationship, on the other hand, was not hinted at.
Wait... what?

Isn't dumbledore like... 80+ or something?

I'm not sure if you're aware, but old gay guys are not all
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/67/Herbert_-_Family_Guy.png


Like many heterosexual people, homosexual people may stop pursuing romantic relationships when they get ancient.
 

Aiedail256

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emeraldrafael said:
your poll seems very skewed against a yes option.
That was my first thought too XD. Although he did say that it broke and he can't fix it. I would have answered the poll in the affirmative - even though I've watched Cracked's video about the most horrifying things in the HP universe - for the sole reason that I learn well by reading and I could just look up anything I missed from not getting a muggle education.

Anyway, my problem with Dumbledore being gay wasn't the gayness itself, but rather the fact that it seemed like Rowling only revealed it to get publicity.

Also, the entire last book was pretty lame: just a bunch of disjointed events with character after character dying in-between, not to mention a whopping 4 or 5 Voldemort encounters (or something like that). And the Harry rebirth thing was pretty dumb, as was the epilogue, and the whole concept of hallows.
 

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It might be me, but the main thing I remember from the epilogue was not the rather uninteresting, and unnecessary story addition it provided, but the inherent promise of no more sequels being slapped on.

A loophole can always be found, but it is nice to get an assurance of the story being over when it should be over.
 

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BiscuitTrouser said:
I tore out the final few pages. Utter garbage. That epilogue was an abomination and we shall never speak of it. Ever. "Albus severus".... what a contrived and childish end to a serious and surprisingly interesting "kids" book.

thats what the ending to digimon season 2 felt for me.
 

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maddawg IAJI said:
CODE-D said:
maddawg IAJI said:
CODE-D said:
She may be the creator but I am the Fan...
Okkkkaaay? And that means what exactly? It means you can voice your complaints sure, but you can't just claim something isn't cannon just because you don't like it. J.K.Rowling is essentially the god of the world that it takes place in and she can alter it anyway she wants and it instantly becomes canon. Why? Because she created the freaking canon!
CODE-D said:
and she was lucky this was the last book. Otherwise we wouldve gotten to find out about Albus Severus dealing with Ginny and Harrys divorce because he and Ron found that they were gay for each other then Hermione committing suicide from embarrassment of the ordeal and cant take life anymore. But she comes back in the second book as a vengeful ghost.....you see where Im going with this,
Not really, no. Announcing the sexuality of a deceased character isn't going to make or break the book and the books are still quite good despite the knowledge that the headmaster came out of the closest. Plus, its useless information on a now dead character. I can do a five minute google search on good old Albus and pull out even stupider and sillier facts about him that are canon and it still wouldn't change a damn thing about the books or even probably future books.
CODE-D said:
all this "added" stuff is unnecessary and is fan disservice.
No its not, its exactly what the fans want. You haven't realized it yet, Dumbledore didn't come into the book with a full back story. Fans have bits and pieces of it, but as it stands, Dumbledore is still a relatively mysterious character, despite being a major character for 7 books. Heck, we didn't even know he had a brother until the 7th book. Major fans have always wanted to know more about the headmaster of Hogwarts and Rowling is giving them that.
and yet all any slight to nonfan will ever remember of him now and all I ever hear about is
facepalm...

Dumbledore is like Darth Vader, dont explain him.
And who cares what the nonfans think? There opinion on the character doesn't matter and Dumbledore is more like Obi-Wan then Vader.
Dont give Lucas any ideas, If he thinks itll "enhance" things he'll have Obi blowin jawas in the desert....I mean he was out there for almost 20 years....gets lonely and how he got addicted to spice when the runners came by. Then we'll have super ultra master edition dvd box set complete with obi/jawa sex tape bonus dvd along with Obi:Road to Rehab book.
 

maddawg IAJI

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CODE-D said:
maddawg IAJI said:
CODE-D said:
maddawg IAJI said:
CODE-D said:
She may be the creator but I am the Fan...
Okkkkaaay? And that means what exactly? It means you can voice your complaints sure, but you can't just claim something isn't cannon just because you don't like it. J.K.Rowling is essentially the god of the world that it takes place in and she can alter it anyway she wants and it instantly becomes canon. Why? Because she created the freaking canon!
CODE-D said:
and she was lucky this was the last book. Otherwise we wouldve gotten to find out about Albus Severus dealing with Ginny and Harrys divorce because he and Ron found that they were gay for each other then Hermione committing suicide from embarrassment of the ordeal and cant take life anymore. But she comes back in the second book as a vengeful ghost.....you see where Im going with this,
Not really, no. Announcing the sexuality of a deceased character isn't going to make or break the book and the books are still quite good despite the knowledge that the headmaster came out of the closest. Plus, its useless information on a now dead character. I can do a five minute google search on good old Albus and pull out even stupider and sillier facts about him that are canon and it still wouldn't change a damn thing about the books or even probably future books.
CODE-D said:
all this "added" stuff is unnecessary and is fan disservice.
No its not, its exactly what the fans want. You haven't realized it yet, Dumbledore didn't come into the book with a full back story. Fans have bits and pieces of it, but as it stands, Dumbledore is still a relatively mysterious character, despite being a major character for 7 books. Heck, we didn't even know he had a brother until the 7th book. Major fans have always wanted to know more about the headmaster of Hogwarts and Rowling is giving them that.
and yet all any slight to nonfan will ever remember of him now and all I ever hear about is
facepalm...

Dumbledore is like Darth Vader, dont explain him.
And who cares what the nonfans think? There opinion on the character doesn't matter and Dumbledore is more like Obi-Wan then Vader.
Dont give Lucas any ideas, If he thinks itll "enhance" things he'll have Obi blowin jawas in the desert....I mean he was out there for almost 20 years....gets lonely and how he got addicted to spice when the runners came by. Then we'll have super ultra master edition dvd box set complete with obi/jawa sex tape bonus dvd along with Obi:Road to Rehab book.
You know, now you're coming off as offensive. You seem to be thinking that because Dumbledore was made gay, that it means that more popular characters should be made gay as a result because it appears to be whats popular and as a result have to be horny bastards who take part in sex-tapes and the sort. Dude, its vulgar, its offensive, and it isn't all that funny. Keep it PG-13 please.