Poll: Has Fallout fallen out?

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RonstahMonstah

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While playing the recently released sequel, Fallout: New Vegas, I wondered if the fallout series has any life in it. Its a very well done game, but it feels like an expansion to 3 to me. The only sequels I can imagine could either be more expansions set in the same period but with new locations, some wasteland future different from how we know it, a heavily multitplayer based game, or some form of prequel before the nuclear wars. So I'm asking if you think the series has much more staying power (and in no way am I denying that at least one more game is probable due to the large fanbase, including me)
 

FernandoV

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Yea, I haven't played New Vegas yet and I promise myself I will but I think until Bethesda unchains itself from that dated engine they're using it will be hard to be immersed in a Fallout game. To me, Fallout is all about immersion and narrative and I play it mainly to observe human survival and play a part in it myself, right now the Fallout universe is no more than a cool sandbox full of things to shoot at. :\
 

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I sincerely hope they find a way to keep the series fresh. And although NV had a completely different setting, I could still convince myself that I was playing FO3. Maybe an update to the actual gaeplay is overdue.

But as far as interesting locales and time periods, I don't see them burning out on that.
 

Canid117

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When all else fails set it 20 years in the future and have the NCR get in a nasty war with the civilization that the Capitol Wasteland seemed to be developing into.
 

MiracleOfSound

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Fallout 3 is still by far my favorite.

New Vegas made so many improvements in the mechanics and writing, but none of them can replace the haunting, beautiful atmosphere that I so loved from F3. New Vegas feels geographically bland and empty in comparison.

There was not one place in Vegas to explore that had the same level of detail and cool hidden stuff as Nuka Cola Plant, Red Racer, LOB Industries, Dunwich Building, Roosevelt Academy, the museums, Capital Building, Bethesda ruins etc etc
 

RonstahMonstah

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ExaltedK9 said:
I sincerely hope they find a way to keep the series fresh. And although NV had a completely different setting, I could still convince myself that I was playing FO3. Maybe an update to the actual gaeplay is overdue.

But as far as interesting locales and time periods, I don't see them burning out on that.
I don't know about you but the VATS aiming system is starting to annoy me. It makes things to easy because I use it to find enemies I'm too lazy to look for, and even with the AP meter limiting head shots you can still use it to line up your gun perfectly
 

ExaltedK9

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RonstahMonstah said:
ExaltedK9 said:
I sincerely hope they find a way to keep the series fresh. And although NV had a completely different setting, I could still convince myself that I was playing FO3. Maybe an update to the actual gaeplay is overdue.

But as far as interesting locales and time periods, I don't see them burning out on that.
I don't know about you but the VATS aiming system is starting to annoy me. It makes things to easy because I use it to find enemies I'm too lazy to look for, and even with the AP meter limiting head shots you can still use it to line up your gun perfectly
Its for this reason that I didn't put any points into perception, instead I put all of it into luck.

So I have VATS to blame for getting me kicked out of all the casinos!
 

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RonstahMonstah said:
ExaltedK9 said:
I sincerely hope they find a way to keep the series fresh. And although NV had a completely different setting, I could still convince myself that I was playing FO3. Maybe an update to the actual gaeplay is overdue.

But as far as interesting locales and time periods, I don't see them burning out on that.
I don't know about you but the VATS aiming system is starting to annoy me. It makes things to easy because I use it to find enemies I'm too lazy to look for, and even with the AP meter limiting head shots you can still use it to line up your gun perfectly
Seriously? An ability you have to consciously choose to use and you get upset about it making things easier? Personally I would have a lot less fun if it were taken away. And from you saying you are too lazy not to use it, that doesn't sound like the games fault. Maybe they could make it a perk though.
 

Dr. wonderful

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I don't think so, wasn't fallout about mankind getting back on the their feet? I hated fallout greyness (But the setting itself? WONDERFUL) I'm tied on whatever New vegas is better then Fallout 3, since New vegas made parts of Van buren (the cancel Fallout 3 game) canon. Which is sad since No one knows where the hell new cannaan is.
 

GrimSheeper

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Seriously, if anything it ended with Fallout 2. Fallout 3 never even came close to the level of storytelling and immersion that Fallout set, despite their technical limitations. Fallout New Vegas is closer to that than Bethesda could ever hope to get on their own. Some places feel a little empty but it's a freaking Wasteland! There doesn't have to be something every 20 feet so trigger-happy player remain entertained. I just fail to see how anyone can like a game so inherently flawed in storyline and gameplay that also downright ignores set rules and throws the seriousness with which nuclear weapons were handled out of the window the first chance it got. In the two original games, there were two nukes, each time used only when there was no other way and this time everyone and their grandmother is lobbing nuclear Grenades at mushroom cloud-producing cars. Yes I am ranting about Fallout 3 but I am just incapable of understanding the praise it received. Nothing about it was memorable, the Dunwhich building that's so praised as great horror is an insult to H.P. Lovecraft as far as I'm concerned and the Supermutant army is just stupid. No clear leader or even organization structure while they are even dumber than second Generation Mariposa Mutants and still they can coordinate military operations and build defensive fortifications? How did the Brotherhood of Steel cross all of the US wasteland in so little time on foot since they obviously have no Vertibird or cars available? Why is the design of almost every weapon looking different on this side of the States than it did in California? Why could they not create a better ending sequence than running after an invincible robot killing stuff? There's too many questions that are just never explained. One might say out of convenience but I won't, I just want to know these things. On the other hand I have to grant it some slack since it has revived the series and opened it to a wider audience, gave it a graphical overhault and created the chance for New Vegas and more sequels, but I still despise the downright stupid quests Fallout 3 handed me, the boring NPC's always staring at you while you talk to them. (Vampire the Masquerade Bloodlines could create better conversations on a Source Engine Alpha in 2004 so what's keeping Gamebryo?) And most of all, the ending that was then even retconned for another DLC. And all this said, I really freaking enjoy Fallout New Vegas since it finally seems to do some things right, given enough player mods to fix things and add old Fallout 2 weapons.
 

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Fallout: New Vegas was an abomination, but I can't say it killed the series, since it wasn't made by Bethesda. (I don't care that it was made by some of the same people who made the originals, that's not much of a defense considering they royally fucked the game up, and hopefully won't be trusted with any future games.)
 

toquio3

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I think there are way too many people in FNV. Doesnt feel like a wasteland at all. FO3 was definitely my favourite. FO and FO2 are on a class of their own. You cant compare games on IP alone, they are different from the new installments.
 

loc978

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Fallout: New Vegas vastly improved on Fallout 3's implementation, in my opinion. The only thing that really, really irks me about them is the shooter element. Fallout is not supposed to be an action game. If you removed the ability to fire without action points (for the player and the NPCs), limited NPC ammunition supply and made NPCs smarter (survival-oriented, not just FPS bots)... the new games would be on par with the old.
 

TerranReaper

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New Vegas, in my opinion, was at least close or on par with Fallout 1 and 2. It makes nods to its predecessors (Barring Fallout 3) and actually uses its continuity to some extent (The NCR and certain other characters). It was less about the wasteland and more about the civilization trying to get back up, which reminded me of Fallout 2.
 

FalloutJack

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I am sorry, but I have enjoyed Fallout 3 and New Vegas. True, they're not like 1 and 2, but it is a brave new world and it had to take the next step forward in technology. I don't really feel that it stumbled too badly, so I think it will continue to be entertaining for quite a while.

The REAL question is if things will get more complex now that the advances of old are recovering...
 

DeadlyYellow

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The writing for Fallout 3 really unsettled me from the series, I hear it is better in NV but at this point I just can't bring myself to care.
 

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MiracleOfSound said:
Fallout 3 is still by far my favorite.

New Vegas made so many improvements in the mechanics and writing, but none of them can replace the haunting, beautiful atmosphere that I so loved from F3. New Vegas feels geographically bland and empty in comparison.

There was not one place in Vegas to explore that had the same level of detail and cool hidden stuff as Nuka Cola Plant, Red Racer, LOB Industries, Dunwich Building, Roosevelt Academy, the museums, Capital Building, Bethesda ruins etc etc
Did you ever stop by the H&H tool factory?

But on-topic, New Vegas was so mind-bogglingly awesome that I have a really good feeling about this franchise--so long as it stays in Obsidian's hands, anyway.