Poll: Has Microsoft's changes to Xbox One DRM changed your decision on getting the console?

[Miss G.]

Stockholm syndrome much? Back-peddling is just making it worse. If they can change their stance on a whim like this, who's to say they won't change it back after they've gotten their money from the sheep? They might as well say 'we'll wait until you're nice and comfortable so you don't see it coming'.

 

[Lilani]

Hm, this does level the playing field a bit. My personal biggest problems were the Internet and trade-in thing. I still think I'm more sold on the PS4 though, because it's cheaper and I still don't want the Kinect. It's not that I'm worried about it spying on me, it's just that it's a feature I don't want to have to pay for and mess with.

I'm sort of glad they backpedaled, and a bit surprised. Yes it's disgusting that they thought they'd get away with it in the first place, but at least they've proven they aren't totally deaf to their consumer base.

 

[BlackMageBob]

Sony bricked my console with the latest software patch. I suppose I honestly don't use it for anything other than niche JRPGS, but I am slightly annoyed.

The XBone's DRM had some damned good tools added, and we lost them now.

Sony is not your friend. Rootkit anyone?

 

[Keoul]

Nope
Just means have the stuff they were spouting was complete nonsense. At this point the question is "Why bother?" the only change is that it's about the same as the PS4 but still 100 dollars more expensive.

 

[mbarker]

They are planning something. I don't belive that they did a 180 I think they are just doing burn control. They will just screw the people who thought they were sincere and bought a Xbox.

 

[A3sir]

I have been loyal to MS for my whole computing life, always had windows, always had Xbox, hell I even defended the Zune. I said no. It still comes with the kinect at $100 which I don't want, you can no longer share games online and the fact that they lied, "you cannot just flip a switch, it's core to the system" and then just flipped the switch is too suspicious for me to trust them. And the whole "Patch 1.1: Re-adds all DRM" is too much of a possibility. The PS4 is simply a more powerful system for ~3/4 of the price.

They just need a balance. They are going from one extreme to the other.

Sell a system with and without the kinect. People without it just can't use the kinect commands. Most cross platform games aren't going to have the kinect commands as they will have to write it in specifically for XB1 versions of the game, so even if they do make a kinect friendly version, you will still be able to play without using kinect commands. I also have no problem pressing a button as opposed to saying "XBOX ON" and random people wont be able to walk into the room and yell "throw grenade, quicksave" and run off.

Make the system HAVE to check in every 24 hours if you want to share your games. Sure, if you don't check in, lock the game from your family list, just don't stop them being played in offline mode on the console they are installed on. Or in other words, no check in to play offline on your console, check in for sharing and "family library" play. Yes, it is that simple.

As for trade ins, the selling disks, no selling digital is how it is now and there is no way around that unless they allow us to package up bought games and allow us to gift them to people. I could see this having the 30 day friends restriction ON DIGITAL COPIES ONLY and I would be fine with it. To stop people installing and then selling the game and still play offline, when installing the game via CD, don't install everything, leave one part that boots the game stay on the disk so to play disk based games, you either a- have to have an online connection, which will boot the game or b- insert the disk and the game will boot off the disk then run from the machine. Having a physical copy of my disk is a small price to pay to be able to play when I visit family without internet connections or when I go away.

 

[KarmaTheAlligator]

Not in the slightest. They still tried to implement those features (hell, according to what I read, it's only a patch, meaning it could be reversed at any time) and MS taking them away now makes me feel like they're doing this as if it was a favour, instead of common decency.

As for the loss of the shared library, thinking about it now, it would have made zero financial sense. Unless they didn't tell us something about the system (i.e. about the limitations), it would have meant that for every copy of a game they sold, 10 people would be able to play (albeit one at a time). No way in hell would that have worked for them.

 

[Extragorey]

I've never owned a console and don't plan to start now, especially seeing as consoles seem to be getting worse and worse in every way besides raw processing power.

 

[Canadamus Prime]

Not at all. I haven't had any interest in the new generation of consoles since before they were announced. All the DRM and other bullshit just compounded the issue.

 

[VoidWanderer]

The real question is, was this their plan all along? Using negative ideas to get free publicity and increase the household recognition of their name, and then try to come off as the good guys when they reverse some of their 'stupid ideas'...

You know, the sort of thing that the EA Marketing Department would do... The guys that organized a fake religious protest about Dante's Inferno. Which was frustrating as we were getting a lot of shit from the mainstream media, and when EA pulled this shit, I really lost faith in them. If they spent that money in making the game better, it would've been fine...

Idiots...

 

[Mangod]

I will not be getting an Xbone bacause, quiet frankly, Microsoft is only changing its tune because we, the consumers, essentially pulled an Iron Sheik, put them in the Camel Clutch and forced them too. This couldn't be any less sincere; they're doing it for themselves, not for us, the people they've wronged to begin with.

Microsoft declared war on the consumers, as Jim Sterling (Praise be!) said, and just because we've forced them to beg us for a ceasefire, doesn't mean they won't try again later.

 

[Atmos Duality]

Microsoft showed their true colors and it's very anti-consumer.
I had a small grudging respect for them towards the end of the 360's cycle (and I do mean SMALL; they've made their share of fuckups, but my ire towards them was tiny compared to Sony and and Nintendo for most of it).

That's gone now. I have no interest in doing any business with them.
What they showed was just one step away from the nightmare scenario I had feared was coming to gaming for years; and it seemed to be a system deliberately designed to ease the market into throwing away what few practical liberties they had left.

 

[Trippy Turtle]

Maybe. It got rid of one of the main reasons I don't like it but I am still want to see it and play with it before I decide to get it.
The biggest problem left would be the kinect in my opinion. I don't enjoy motion controls at all and it will be an extreme waste of space. I don't care about it supposedly watching me all the time like a lot of people complain about but it seems like an expensive waste of time.

 

[NoeL]

Here's how I think it all went down:

Microsoft, after chatting with their good friends at EA and Ubisoft, came to Sony with a plan to implement system-wide DRM on both systems. They were like "Yo dawg, if we team up we'll be able to control the gaming market. Who else are they going to turn to? Nintendo?" and Sony was like "I got yo back okerface:". So Microsoft comes forth with its plan, fully aware there'll be consumer backlash, but with the confidence of Sony also throwing their hand in and being all "What now, punks!? Looks like you'll just have to deal with it!". But after the backlash of the Xbone reveal, the strapped-for-cash scumbag Son (lawlpun) seized the opportunity to become crowd favourite. They cut the legs out from underneath Microsoft, and now Microsoft know they can't run with their DRM alone they fold faster than Superman on laundry day.

 

[Maximum Bert]

It has gone from a definite will not buy to I will consider it same as the PS4 and WiiU although I must admit I will be especially wary about buying one now and I will not buy one until they lower that price by at least 90 pounds I wouldnt buy the PS3 at the ridiculous price they were trying to sell it and I wont buy the Xbox One at that price either.

Overall I am likely to wait longer to buy an Xbox One than I am WiiU and PS4.

 

[Atmos Duality]

Here's how I think it all went down:

Microsoft, after chatting with their good friends at EA and Ubisoft, came to Sony with a plan to implement system-wide DRM on both systems. They were like "Yo dawg, if we team up we'll be able to control the gaming market. Who else are they going to turn to? Nintendo?" and Sony was like "I got yo back okerface:". So Microsoft comes forth with its plan, fully aware there'll be consumer backlash, but with the confidence of Sony also throwing their hand in and being all "What now, punks!? Looks like you'll just have to deal with it!". But after the backlash of the Xbone reveal, the strapped-for-cash scumbag Son (lawlpun) seized the opportunity to become crowd favourite. They cut the legs out from underneath Microsoft, and now Microsoft know they can't run with their DRM alone they fold faster than Superman on laundry day.

That's a rather fascinating version of Game Theory and Cartels, intentional or not.

Sony of course, cheated the cartel and profited.
Massively.

 

[annoyinglizardvoice]

I still won't be rushing out to buy one, but I'm more likely to at some stage than I was before.

 

[keniakittykat]

If you kick me in the shins three hundred times, it's gonna take more than a single ice cream cone to get me to like you again, microsoft...

 

[Aiddon_v1legacy]

what I've said before:

maybe. I'll be honest, I wasn't even thinking about getting a PS4 until at least next year due to lack of BC and a lack of titles that interested me and the XBone was even lower than that due to price and DRM shenanigans. However, with this update I can least see myself getting an XBone EVENTUALLY as opposed to NEVER. Now it just comes down to games.