Poll: Have you sold out?

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maddawg IAJI

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Every now and again I have. I told everyone that I really didn't like Fable 2 and probably wouldn't like the next game in the series, but after trading games with my friend (He got Assassin's Creed 2 and I got Fable 3), I found myself enjoying the game and the much more friendly interface (Hooray! No more cluttering menus!) and I deeply enjoy how the humor of the game is presented. The combat is still crap and the missions are really pointless, but just combining and using magical spells is fun enough.
 

Betancore

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Not really. I just accept that my tastes can change. I don't think I had many principles regarding selling out in the first place. If it benefits me, why shouldn't I do it?
 

Altorin

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I wish I had something I could sell out with

I'd sell out at the drop of a hat, because your ideals will always be with you, that money is nebulous, who knows how long that's going to last? Get what you can I say.
 

Double A

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I stand by my ideals of hardcore capitalism and everything-that-the-liberals-like-that-isn't-socialism-or-abortion.

I like having morals. It's kind of tingly.
 

Infinatex

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megs1120 said:
Zhukov said:
Uhh... I paid money for BLack Ops. Does that count?
Yeah, I think it does. :)
I don't think buying popular games makes you a sell out. Being sell out would be if you made a beautiful little indie game and then instead of making a true-to-the-first sequel you signed up with EA and made a generic samey shooter version instead.
 

Adventurer2626

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Yea pretty much. It's one of the reasons I dropped ideals, principles, and morals (well most of them; some still cling to me) for a system consisting of a pyramid of priorities with my best interests (until I have a family of my own) at the top and going down to close family to close friends to relatives to acquaintances, and so on. I tried the principles but I ended up finding numerous exceptions where they came into conflict with my interests and of those I cared about. I'd profess to dislike a person/company and turn around and support them by buying their product because it suited me at the time. I'd dismiss a person for one aspect of them that went against my beliefs but embrace them again once I saw all the other good things about them. Principles are the training wheels of your belief system but it usually works best to take them off when you get experienced and want to try something more challenging than the flat, paved trail.
 

Gigano

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No, though circumstances have yet to really test me on it either.

Of course ideals shape and mature over time, so I've probably violated what I hold now at some point long past, even if I can't remember any instances.
 

Steppin Razor

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Have I ever abandoned ideals for personal gain? Can't say I have really. I've certainly violated a huge number of the ideals I used to hold a few years ago, but that's a case of a shifting ideology rather than doing it for personal gain.
 

Gildan Bladeborn

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No, can't say that I have - there aren't a lot of things I take ideological standpoints on that really offer the possibility for "selling out" for starters, as there is simply no way that abandoning my convictions would lead to personal gain in most cases. And in the cases where I could benefit, it's generally not monetary gain so much as transient enjoyment - I wouldn't really consider abandoning a boycott so I can play a game/watch a movie/etc to be 'selling out' really.

Never going to stop boycotting Ubisoft products so long as their retarded DRM scheme remains in place though! Spite is one of the most powerful forces in all of creation, and oh boy have they ever earned mine.
 
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I shopped myself around, I was even willing to make changes...but noones buying.

Blasted economy! I'd kill ya if you weren't already on your death bed.
 

CrashBang

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There's a quote I remember by Frank Carter of Gallows (one of my favourite bands) from when they signed to a major label. He roughly said that he was happy to admit that he sold out, because now he's a millionaire; he can buy things for his mum, for himself and move to a nice place, have a good life. That made me realise that selling out isn't always the worst thing in the world
I hate CoD multiplayer but still asked for Black Ops for Christmas. I stopped being straight edge because I'm a student and, as such, saying no to alcohol is almost impossible. But there's one thing I'll never do: buy Nestle products
 

i7omahawki

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CrashBang said:
There's a quote I remember by Frank Carter of Gallows (one of my favourite bands) from when they signed to a major label. He roughly said that he was happy to admit that he sold out, because now he's a millionaire; he can buy things for his mum, for himself and move to a nice place, have a good life.
But if his mother and the 'good life' were his priorities anyway, then how would that be selling out?

CrashBang said:
But there's one thing I'll never do: buy Nestle products
Oh, how come?

I think 'selling out' is impossible, if adequately defined. To 'sell out' you'd have to value something more than your own values, which doesn't really make any sense. I think a situation where you have either ideals or money can only show if you actually value those ideals or not.

Personally, aside from earning enough money to live, and properly support a family (supposing I have one), I can't see the purpose of money. If I earnt money instead of doing what I wanted, what is the moeny for? Money is only ever instrumental, it could not be an end in-itself, but it seems as though it has been fetishized by many.

Have I been a hypocrite before? Definately, I have spouted one thing and then done another, but all that showed was that I hadn't adequately investigated either the situation, or my values. Everyone will be a hypocrite at some point, but as long as you address the change I don't see the problem.
 

DiMono

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If I'd sold out, I'd be much better off than I am by now.

Actually, I've done ridiculously well at sticking with my ideals, even in the face of financial ruin. I'm proud of myself.
 

Dango

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Yes. I used to be an asshole, just so I could fit in. God I used to be such an idiot.
 

interspark

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im a vegetarian but i once had a "phase" where i ate gelatine products, but then i realised what an ass i was being