Poll: History, an important subject?

[Nickolai77]

I believe in learning so much history. Facts of how our country was started, wars held and the reasons for them e.t.c.
But my history lessons were mostly about WW2 for at least 5yrs of school. I vaguely remember in middle school learning about Tudors and even in highschool we did the Toxteth Riots but besides them minor distractions it was straight back onto WW2. No offence but i hate hearing about it now. Every year all year. Really grates on me now. I respect what happened and those that died for our country but to hear it year in year out really is irritating. I once loved the subject, used to be able to tell you everything about it (to a point) but after 2yrs i got bored and slacked. Eventually when i left school i chose not to take 6th form history because one year was devoted to none other then... WW2
URGH! Change the history or scrap the subject!

I know how you feel man, they are damn well obssesed with the world wars back at high school. For us though it was more WW1 mainly, and when it came to WW2 it was all about the Blitz, the Nazi's and the Holocaust. Not only did we do WW1 in history, but we also did WW1 in English Literature, twice! Now i'm in university, where doing the Middle Ages, it's like a breath of fresh air to be out of the 20th century. I won't be taking any modules on 20th century history thats for sure. The reason why, i think, they teach us about the wars is that they are fading from living memory, so where the ones who have to learn about it and "pass on" the knowledge of what happend. I'll certainly be telling my grand children about what my grandparents did in the war.

 

[Rooster893]

Hell yeah its useless. We all know that Jesus Christ Lincoln chopped down his father's cherry tree and landed on the moon, why do we need to learn about it?

Also, wouldn't it be nice if we could like, i don't know, make people do work for no pay, but we feed them and stuff? Its way less work than having to like, hire and fire people. We could trade good ones for money one time, and then its all just upkeep!

Also, Jews, huh? Annoying! I wonder if anyone thought about making some camps for them to live in by themselves.

Are you that retarded?

The story with the cherry tree, it was George Washington. And it was the neighbor's tree that he chopped down, not his father's. And that story is just a myth.

 

[Soxafloppin]

Well if no one learned history, who would teach history in the future?

 

[thiosk]

Hell yeah its useless. We all know that Jesus Christ Lincoln chopped down his father's cherry tree and landed on the moon, why do we need to learn about it?

Also, wouldn't it be nice if we could like, i don't know, make people do work for no pay, but we feed them and stuff? Its way less work than having to like, hire and fire people. We could trade good ones for money one time, and then its all just upkeep!

Also, Jews, huh? Annoying! I wonder if anyone thought about making some camps for them to live in by themselves.

Are you that retarded?

The story with the cherry tree, it was George Washington. And it was the neighbor's tree that he chopped down, not his father's. And that story is just a myth.

No, YOU are that retarded.
If you can't figure out that post was in fact a pro-history, if highly sarcastic statement...

Whats even stranger is that you took issue to the cherry tree amalgamation and not the slavery or genocidal components.

 

[whiskey rock n' roller]

Maybe not important for careers and stuff but definetly one of the most interesting by far, I stopped studying it at GCSE level but always read up on events I find interesting.

 

[Quad08]

I got a A+ in it and it drastically improved my GPA

So yes, it is very important

 

[Wadders]

Just because it was useless to me, it dont mean that it's useless to everyone else.

In short, open your fucking mind.

I just hate learning about thing I will never use.

Welcome to compulsory education. Learning pointless stuff what its all about

 

[klakkat]

Hell yeah its useless. We all know that Jesus Christ Lincoln chopped down his father's cherry tree and landed on the moon, why do we need to learn about it?

Also, wouldn't it be nice if we could like, i don't know, make people do work for no pay, but we feed them and stuff? Its way less work than having to like, hire and fire people. We could trade good ones for money one time, and then its all just upkeep!

Also, Jews, huh? Annoying! I wonder if anyone thought about making some camps for them to live in by themselves.

Are you that retarded?

The story with the cherry tree, it was George Washington. And it was the neighbor's tree that he chopped down, not his father's. And that story is just a myth.

No, YOU are that retarded.
If you can't figure out that post was in fact a pro-history, if highly sarcastic statement...

Whats even stranger is that you took issue to the cherry tree amalgamation and not the slavery or genocidal components.

I did manage to see it, but keep in mind that lacking information like body position and tone of voice, many people are unable to see sarcasm. It just doesn't translate well until you lay it on REAL thick; every point of view you put down sarcastically has actually been held by real people...

 

[Kiutu]

Bush Administration
We will never forget, so that we may never repeat.

History is extremly important, mostly for it shows us how we are. Shows us how bad we can be, and how good we can be. What works, what doesnt. History is really one of the most IMPORTANT subjects.

 

[Commissar Sae]

Case in point: Don't invade Russia. Napoleon tried it, he failed. Kaiser Wilhelm got caught in a war on 2 fronts (Russian and European), he failed. Hitler also fought in Russia and Europe at the same time, he also failed. These men did not learn from history, and thusly they failed.
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Yeah if the past 3 years of history and political science have taught me anything it's never, ever, under any circumstances, invade Russia. Actually, just don't get involved in land wars in Asia in general. A fine example of how history is rather important.

As an example of learning things you'll never need. I will never use math or science in my chosen career tract, I do however appreciate the knowledge and methodology involved in mathematical and scientific thought. Learning different subjects allows you to think in different ways. If you limit your ability to understand various subjects, you limit your potential to deal with issues as they come up.
So while I will never use calculus, chemistry or physics at any time in my life, I do appreciate knowing about them as they changed some of my thought patterns and oepened up a greater understanding of other subjects.

In short: Why limit yourself to one way of thinking.
Plus historical anecdotes are a great way to make friends. Talk about how retarded everyone was in the Crimean war and watch people laugh and shake their heads in disbelief.

 

[Claymorez]

Hell yeah its useless. We all know that Jesus Christ Lincoln chopped down his father's cherry tree and landed on the moon, why do we need to learn about it?

Also, wouldn't it be nice if we could like, i don't know, make people do work for no pay, but we feed them and stuff? We could trade good ones for money!

Also, Jews, huh? Annoying! I wonder if anyone thought about making some camps for them to live in by themselves.

Ah, it was George Washinton and the cherry tree...

psh. as if. George Washington invented peanut butter and the automobile, and was the King of Persia.

Noo that's not right either, George Washington was the guy who found the dagger of time and killed pigeons in hyde park in London.

 

[Kamehapa]

History is a method of indoctrinating people into a cultures belief system and brainwashing them into accepting a certain point of view as fact and never asking to question it. History in itself is stupid; people, dates, places, don't really matter, only ideas and concepts learned from the experiances do.

Those who do not know history are doomed to repeate it, what they fail to mention is that people who DO know history are still going to repeate it.

 

[Woodsey]

Yes - if you have an interesting teacher who can engage you then it can be quite enjoyable. Fuck, I don't even mind writing coursework for it.

Besides, without history we'd be where we started; learning everything anew, forever.

 

[AlotMoreSanity]

i think you should just learn the basics... theres no need to know the date and time of every english kings daily shit-break

Your name sounds vaguely familiar....

To respond to your comment: Actually, my history classes (at university) rarely asks dates. Only High schools ask dates on a regular basis.

Of course, when you are asked to remember dates in Uni, you better remember them.

OT: No, it most certainly is not a useless subject. Were it not for learning history, so many errors would continue to be made, even though people will not recognize that those same errors have been done in the past. In other words...

"Those who do not know history...Are doomed to repeat it...

Of course, there is the other side of repeating history, as in the part where history repeats all of the greater works of mankind in some form. However, there would be too much of a risk to do so with all of the negative historical moments. While all moments in history will not apply to you, it is still important to learn at least a small amount of them. Is repeating history worth the risk of future tragedies? Personally, I don't think so. You, on the other hand, are free to believe what you want. Just keep what has been said in mind.

My name sounds like nomoresanity

 

[Magnatek]

i think you should just learn the basics... theres no need to know the date and time of every english kings daily shit-break

Your name sounds vaguely familiar....

To respond to your comment: Actually, my history classes (at university) rarely asks dates. Only High schools ask dates on a regular basis.

Of course, when you are asked to remember dates in Uni, you better remember them.

OT: No, it most certainly is not a useless subject. Were it not for learning history, so many errors would continue to be made, even though people will not recognize that those same errors have been done in the past. In other words...

"Those who do not know history...Are doomed to repeat it...

Of course, there is the other side of repeating history, as in the part where history repeats all of the greater works of mankind in some form. However, there would be too much of a risk to do so with all of the negative historical moments. While all moments in history will not apply to you, it is still important to learn at least a small amount of them. Is repeating history worth the risk of future tragedies? Personally, I don't think so. You, on the other hand, are free to believe what you want. Just keep what has been said in mind.

My name sounds like nomoresanity

I believe your quote would be more suited to Random argument man, for he was the one to make that point. I was agreeing with the point in his response that was on-topic; the dates to be remembered.

 

[MR T3D]

It rounds out an individual, something schools haven't been doing very well in north america.
just man up and learn the facts, sometimes they WILL be useful.

 

[NBSRDan]

"Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it." -George Santayana

The above is a true statement.

It is unfortunate that history courses are not offered by most schools.

 

[MiserableOldGit]

Those who do not know their history are doomed to repeat it.

Now, people say this, and there is a sound reasoning to it, but it also has to be acknowledged that many mistakes have been repeated because of a knowledge of history. I think an ammnendment is in order; Those who do not know their history or forget that they are not their Granparents are doomed to repeat it.

 

[ubermonkey37]

History DOES repeat itself... every second god damned semester.