Instead of reading this thread I skimmed the first page. Overall the responses were very... how can I put this...... oh yeah. It's not the seventies people!
Poll: Hitting Women if they hit you first
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"Whatever happened to chivalry and gentlemen's behaviour?"
That died many moons ago, around the point where holding open a door instead of letting it slam in someone's face is seen as an insult instead of a nice gesture regardless of the person's gender.
I believe in equal rights but people can't pick and choose what parts are equal for their own convenience. Physically harming someone, no matter how strong each person is cannot be justified. If someone started hitting me, they shouldn't be surprised if i return the favour.
That died many moons ago, around the point where holding open a door instead of letting it slam in someone's face is seen as an insult instead of a nice gesture regardless of the person's gender.
I believe in equal rights but people can't pick and choose what parts are equal for their own convenience. Physically harming someone, no matter how strong each person is cannot be justified. If someone started hitting me, they shouldn't be surprised if i return the favour.
In theory I'd say yes if she's attacking you with intent to wound. Inreality I wouldn't because a) I don't like hitting people and b) I doubt anyone would believe me.
I will behave like a gentleman towards any lady.NicolasMarinus said:
Being assaulted is not very lady-like.
This thread also gives me an excuse to post the most wonderful woman to have existed:-
If she wanted to be the crap out of me I paint a bullseye on my face. Isn't she something fellas?
Allow me to quote Officer James Darrel Edwards III from Men in Black.
Officer James Darrel Edwards III said:
Well, it's alittle unorthodox, but considering this thread caught my attention I thought I'd drop in two cents.
I'm a strong, nonviolent female who boxes, swims and lifts weights on an almost daily basis. I'm not built like a brick shithouse, but I'm not your stereotypical doll either. I have a policy that I never intentionally hit-to-hurt my male friends (weaker or stronger), my boyfriend or my female friends. I have accidentally friendly-punched people in the shoulder too hard, and for that I have always sincerely apologised.
However, my nerdy, generally unathletic, computer obsessed friends are occasionally threatened by tougher, stronger guys. If I deem these knuckleheads an immediate physical threat, they have, and will, be dropped by me in under ten. High heels or no high heels. I try not to hit them in the nuts unless it is truly necessary for self defense; then they claim it was an 'unfair fight' and I do like those jerks to feel some shame about having their ass squarely handed to them 'by a girl'
So if a girl is a serious, unavoidable physical threat, yes, then some form of restraint or self defense is in order. But I wouldn't condone retaliation; if you don't like being manhandled, or punched, or bit or kicked, then doing the same to the person is just likely to aggravate them and escalate the situation. They won't like it either. It's not about 'they should expect it back' because alot of people just don't think before they swing. I'm lucky because I have to think - throwing a stray punch when I'm angry can end with hospitalisation - I don't have the margin of error that most girls have.
I'm a strong, nonviolent female who boxes, swims and lifts weights on an almost daily basis. I'm not built like a brick shithouse, but I'm not your stereotypical doll either. I have a policy that I never intentionally hit-to-hurt my male friends (weaker or stronger), my boyfriend or my female friends. I have accidentally friendly-punched people in the shoulder too hard, and for that I have always sincerely apologised.
However, my nerdy, generally unathletic, computer obsessed friends are occasionally threatened by tougher, stronger guys. If I deem these knuckleheads an immediate physical threat, they have, and will, be dropped by me in under ten. High heels or no high heels. I try not to hit them in the nuts unless it is truly necessary for self defense; then they claim it was an 'unfair fight' and I do like those jerks to feel some shame about having their ass squarely handed to them 'by a girl'
So if a girl is a serious, unavoidable physical threat, yes, then some form of restraint or self defense is in order. But I wouldn't condone retaliation; if you don't like being manhandled, or punched, or bit or kicked, then doing the same to the person is just likely to aggravate them and escalate the situation. They won't like it either. It's not about 'they should expect it back' because alot of people just don't think before they swing. I'm lucky because I have to think - throwing a stray punch when I'm angry can end with hospitalisation - I don't have the margin of error that most girls have.
wow... thats kind of the exception that proves the ruleMercanary57 said:
i did was hit by my wife when we argued, she usually slaped me across the cheek and i dont think i ever deserved it, but i would never hit her back... guess its just how i was raised huh?
I like to believe chivalry is not dead. It's just not right to hit a woman, or anyone for that matter. Mind you, if the woman is bigger and stronger than you, and likely to actually hurt you, then there is nothing wrong with self defense. It's just fact that most women are smaller and less strong than most men.Internet Kraken said:
It's kinda the same reason you don't hit a kid in grade 3 when you are grown-up. Sure, this kid has a small chance of being a badass and taking you out, but let's be honest, this is most likely a smaller, weaker person.
There's a big difference between defending yourself against a genuine assailant regardless of their gender, and hitting someone who could not possibly hurt you no matter what they did. My girlfriend's arm are about the size of three of my fingers, and I think any reasonably sized guy who threw down hard against somebody so easily subdued should have a good long think to themselves. On the other hand, I know a few girls who are martial arts instructors and my god, RUN AWAY.
I'm talking about a woman that is attacking you. You sound like you are describing a woman that has done nothing to provoke your rage. In that case it's not right to hit them, but that's not because they are a woman. It's because you don't go around punching people for no reason.CoziestPigeon said:
Quite simply that would fall under the misjudgement thing. However you are making a pretty bold assumption that someone with a black belt is going to go around punching people. I know I don't.Chipperz said:
Likewise I don't think I said restrain at any point in my discussion. But you did use quotes so you were merely misquoting me.
Ahh sorry, I was talking to all the people in this thread going "I wouldn't hit them, I'd just restrain them" with that second question. Yeah... She'd break yer arm for the effort.theultimateend said:
But yeah, I dunno if she'd just go around punching people. Most of the guys are too scared of her to check.
While I'm not questioning her talents I'd suggest you not immediately assume other folks haven't been training just as much or moreChipperz said:
.Not that I do anymore. But then again it is quite rare that confident folks actually fight, it is usually scared people. At least from my experiences.