Poll: How about a ''Vs. America' shooter?

[Ilikemilkshake]

Based on the fact that Medal of Honor barely sold despite all the furore AND EA's marketing efforts I'm going to say it's unlikely. I acknowledge the possibility but I just think most people would go "Why? Why the villain? I just want to play".
Why do I think that? I just think most people are looking to try and play the all-American hero and if they aren't given that opportunity they will look elsewhere. I also think trying to beat COD is a bit of a fruitless exercise at the minute because of the brand identity it has.

MOH didnt "barely" sell, it sold a few million, it just didnt get anywhere near the levels they wanted, and the reason for that was in many peoples opinions it was a rubbishy clone of COD (although to be fair i enjoyed the single player of MOH more than black ops)

I think the only way an fps will be able to become as popular than COD is if it does something different, like perhaps not playing as the US, otherwise new fps games will be forever compared with COD, and probably wont be able to beat it.

 

[FinalHeart95]

The outrage from such a game would probably scare off all potential publishers. People hate seeing Americans killed, because [sarcasm] American lives are worth more than others, clearly. [/sarcasm]

I'd play such a game if it was good though.

 

[Palademon]

Gasp. Somebody playing BLack Ops who's never played MW2.

 

[Nautical Honors Society]

I've just been playing the thoroughly adequate Call Of Duty: Black Ops and something came to mind (and was reinforced by Yahtzee's comments).

Would anyone else really like to play an FPS/3rd person shooter AGAINST America?
Don't get me wrong, this is not a hate post against the Yank nation, more a fun idea that's been done in plenty of games previously (ie. allowing you to play as the 'enemy').

For example, do you remember how cool it was when you first got to play as the bosses in Street Fighter II or as Darth Vader in some (crappy) Star Whores game?

My point is, it would kick ass to play as the Viet Cong, Iraquis or Talban scum.

This would be particularly awesome since you could be the underdog and use stealth/sabotage/underhand tactics to manipulate/terrorize/steal weapons from the mighty American Empire.

Share your thoughts...

Oh great another thread inspired by Zero Punctuation. Yes of course playing as "Americans are the good guys" is overdone, but saying playing as the "viet cong, iraquis, or taliban scum" would kick ass doesn't really make any sense to me. Yes it would be an interesting dynamic, yes it would be a change, and yes it may end up being a better game, but "kick ass" no. I don't really get that rock and roll feeling from playing as terrorists.

Off-topic: "Star whores"? Are you trolling?

I guess we enjoy different things then...

The whole post is a little tongue-in-cheek but, yes, 'Star Whores.'
(Since I don't know what 'trolling' is, I guess I'm in the clear )

It means you posted that just to illicit a negative response.

 

[LightOfDarkness]

I'd just like a game with well done sabotage and stealth elements (note: running in guns blazing and planting a bit of C4=/=sabotage)

 

[darkmalteaser]

I believe it would be class maybe command and conquer touches on it and it set off no alarms so I say why not.

 

[Mookalakai]

Considering the number of police officers you kill in every GTA game, I'll count those as vs. America.

 

[Danistuta]

I've just been playing the thoroughly adequate Call Of Duty: Black Ops and something came to mind (and was reinforced by Yahtzee's comments).

Would anyone else really like to play an FPS/3rd person shooter AGAINST America?
Don't get me wrong, this is not a hate post against the Yank nation, more a fun idea that's been done in plenty of games previously (ie. allowing you to play as the 'enemy').

For example, do you remember how cool it was when you first got to play as the bosses in Street Fighter II or as Darth Vader in some (crappy) Star Whores game?

My point is, it would kick ass to play as the Viet Cong, Iraquis or Talban scum.

This would be particularly awesome since you could be the underdog and use stealth/sabotage/underhand tactics to manipulate/terrorize/steal weapons from the mighty American Empire.

Share your thoughts...

Oh great another thread inspired by Zero Punctuation. Yes of course playing as "Americans are the good guys" is overdone, but saying playing as the "viet cong, iraquis, or taliban scum" would kick ass doesn't really make any sense to me. Yes it would be an interesting dynamic, yes it would be a change, and yes it may end up being a better game, but "kick ass" no. I don't really get that rock and roll feeling from playing as terrorists.

Off-topic: "Star whores"? Are you trolling?

I guess we enjoy different things then...

The whole post is a little tongue-in-cheek but, yes, 'Star Whores.'
(Since I don't know what 'trolling' is, I guess I'm in the clear )

It means you posted that just to illicit a negative response.

Oh, I got it. I'm not so familiar with modern slang... Anyway, yes, you were right

 

[shadyh8er]

"OMGZ! An anti-American game?! Kill it! Kill it with FIYAH!"

Seriously though it would be interesting to see a game like that. I want to see how the other side feels. It would be like playing Resistance from the Chimeras' point of view or Gears of War from the Locusts'. (And it would be fun to chainsaw those 2-D muscleheads!)

 

[Danistuta]

Gasp. Somebody playing BLack Ops who's never played MW2.

Yeah, I'm not big on FPS's usually. I tend to go for 3PS's if pushed. I dug out MW2 the other day though (I thought it was rubbish the 1st time I played it) and found the local co-op mode to be bags more fun than 'zombies'. (I also don't play online, so I guess I miss out on plenty of the FPS draws).

 

[Arduras]

I'm not so much for the 'against america' thing, but just a shift in who is always involved in games today.
FFS I don't want to play another America Vs. Russian/russian weapons game, or WW2 for that matter.

Give me a shooter when its some basically unknown war (in gaming i mean) like the Falklands, or make one up that involves NATO with the American's as the minority... a task force made up of Australian, British, French, etc troops against I don't know, an Eastern Pact confederacy or hey, a political uprising staged in Europe?
Its something different, its not offending anyone (because its not a minority get bashed) and we all get a taste of some DIFFERENT BLOODY WEAPONS. IL's, Styers as a main weapon and against an enemy with similar weaponry or even better weapons!

But hey, Vs. America would be -okay-, as long as I don't have to constantly use an AK or a M4

 

[Redratson]

I would LOVE invading the entirety of America as Russia.

In a Red alert kind of way.

Don't go telling me you don't feel like nuking some country when you hear this.

mmmmmmmmmm music to my ears when invading a country.

OT: didnt world in conflict soviet campaign face America and Nato forces?

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

Wow...

That's truly terrifying that the Pentagon thinks that.

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

Why do Escapists make threads that have no grounded purpose other than to get people's knickers in a twist?

Same reason certain companies make games that are bound to cause controversy? Not that any media outlets or governments do that either.

 

[The Hive Mind]

I want to play as part of a guerrilla army. Not retend guerilla like Red Faction, but real hit'n'run against-the-odds stealthy shit.

 

[Geekosaurus]

The US made Medal of Honour rename 'Taliban' because they didn't want people to side with them... So what I'm trying to say is: no - it probably wont happen.

 

[Nautical Honors Society]

I've just been playing the thoroughly adequate Call Of Duty: Black Ops and something came to mind (and was reinforced by Yahtzee's comments).

Would anyone else really like to play an FPS/3rd person shooter AGAINST America?
Don't get me wrong, this is not a hate post against the Yank nation, more a fun idea that's been done in plenty of games previously (ie. allowing you to play as the 'enemy').

For example, do you remember how cool it was when you first got to play as the bosses in Street Fighter II or as Darth Vader in some (crappy) Star Whores game?

My point is, it would kick ass to play as the Viet Cong, Iraquis or Talban scum.

This would be particularly awesome since you could be the underdog and use stealth/sabotage/underhand tactics to manipulate/terrorize/steal weapons from the mighty American Empire.

Share your thoughts...

Oh great another thread inspired by Zero Punctuation. Yes of course playing as "Americans are the good guys" is overdone, but saying playing as the "viet cong, iraquis, or taliban scum" would kick ass doesn't really make any sense to me. Yes it would be an interesting dynamic, yes it would be a change, and yes it may end up being a better game, but "kick ass" no. I don't really get that rock and roll feeling from playing as terrorists.

Off-topic: "Star whores"? Are you trolling?

I guess we enjoy different things then...

The whole post is a little tongue-in-cheek but, yes, 'Star Whores.'
(Since I don't know what 'trolling' is, I guess I'm in the clear )

It means you posted that just to illicit a negative response.

Oh, I got it. I'm not so familiar with modern slang... Anyway, yes, you were right

Ok please don't troll then. It isn't a good thing.

 

[Korten12]

would be cool if you played a game where America is invaded, but instead of the governments promise of protecting its citizens on the west coast (where invasion would take place) the government pulls back and defends itself only, thus player finds himself in a Gorilla faction struggling to live day to day.

the first part of the game can be fighting back whoever invaded and pushed the US back, and as the US army slowly trudges its way back to reclaim its lost land the player must fight against the invading force and the US force!

You might want to try Homefront next year its similar to that...

 

[Wayneguard]

Playing as a guerilla insurgency of citizens against a tyrannical, big-brother US government... yes I would very much like to play this.

 

[zaiggs]

i would think that a vs usa game wouldnt sell and if it did people would call you a terrorist or say the game is made by terrorist or some such non sense. games like cod and battlefield already get this cause you can play as the opfor which are chinese or arabic. they claim that its terrorist training simulators. so imagine if a games primary role was to be a vs american game

That's pretty crazy. They think that way to train terrorists by conditioning them to be emotionally invested in fighting americas. Doesn't that not also mean that most games that have america as the "good guys" conditions americans to be invested in killing whichever nationality of people the game has as the bad guys?

What about games like Destroy All Humans? Does that promote misanthropy?

*sigh* Remember when games had the player be an animal and the bad guys were other animals... or robots or aliens?