Poll: How do you justify it?

[ma55ter_fett]

When/if you download something for free that by rights you should have paid for, do you bother justifying your actions to yourself?

Or do you simply acknowledge that you have committed a minor indiscretion of the law get on with your further downloads.

(If you have never illegally downloaded anything before than imagine that I asked the same question about driving five miles over the speed limit, or J-walking or some sort of offense)

As for me, well lets just say that if this was 19th centrury europe I would be danceing a jig in thin air with a noose around my neck and I would have no regrets... well I most likely would.

 

[delet]

Yea, I don't really justify it, I just go on with my day.

 

[Casual Shinji]

The worst I do is stream the occasional anime.

So I'm as clean as a preacher's sheets.

 

[Paddin]

Your poll is a mess, if you can fix it you really should. I would vote but I'm not sure what the hell I'm voting for. I think your polls mean (correct me if im wrong)
1. Im a pirate
2. Im a pirate
3. Im someone who gets pirated off
4. None of the above
5. Kinda pointless statement which is bound to offend some people
6. An admittance to the previous point
7. The usual suspect, the completely pointless one that throws the whole poll off balance

Also, what do any of those have to do with justification?

I voted option 7, because yum

EDIT: how do I justify it? I dont. Simple as, I dont deny I did something wrong, I just dont let it bother me

 

[Wardnath]

Maybe you should lay off the social commentary...

Yep.

When/if you download something for free that by rights you should have paid for, do you bother justifying your actions to yourself?

No, not really.

Or do you simply acknowledge that you have committed a minor indiscretion of the law get on with your further downloads.

Pretty much, yeah, and since I lack a debit card.... yeah.

As for me, well lets just say that if this was 19th centrury europe I would be danceing a jig in thin air with a noose around my neck.

Except this isn't the 19th century and we've recognised that there's far worse things than petty theft.

 

[David Bray]

That poll is too annoying to vote.

I rarely justify. Sometimes i'll download a movie to close the gap between it leaving the theatres and me getting it on DVD.
Music i don't care, i support my favourite bands with gigs.
I never pirate games or anything beyond a single file.

I stream tv because i don't have the time to watch it downstairs.

There's a lot of justifications there but in my head its just "right, next thing i need to do"

 

[Jackalb]

I download a few things here and there, a lot less then what I used too.

I never felt bad but if it makes you feel better I'll go stroke a cat or talk to an old person for a bit.

 

[Levitas1234]

I justify it with the fact that i was probably not going to spend money on it anyways and that it has been uploaded and will be downloaded so me not downloading will not solve anything!

 

[Arsen]

CD's are expensive these days. Almost twenty dollars for an album that might not be even worth keeping. Back in 2002 when I bought CD's constantly they were for around thirteen or so. Sorry, but the availability justifies a drop in price, not a rise. Plus there is no return policy if I don't like it? Sorry, that's just a rip there folks.

Movie's tend to be either miss, gigantic miss, could have been good but lacked, or HOLY SH-- THIS IS AWESOME! I also tend not to truly care about movie's anymore. Even then the one's I want to watch are old. Modern day Hollywood does not interest me.

 

[ultrachicken]

I don't really justify it, but I guess my reason is that "I would never pay for this crap."

 

[Orcus The Ultimate]

ok first before you try doing something polemic, read this, it's in french spanish and italian but i'll translate it to you:
http://www.syti.net/TwoWorlds.html

"The first order that officially proclaimed,
applies to the "world below": the public, ordinary citizens.
The second order, one that actually governs the society,
applies to the "world from above": the holders
economic power and organizations.

The ordinary citizen is invited to observe the fauna and flora when in a natural site. But at the same time, illegal industrial discharges are allowed, and beautiful natural sites are ransacked for logging, or for industrial or housing projects.

The ordinary citizen is encouraged to tolerance, respect for others. But business leaders, human life is valued in dollars, and its estimated value is negative for the people "at the expense of society".

To summarize, there are 2 levels, 2 sets of values. One, Official, is for the good people. The other, unofficial, is for members of the ruling classes.

For some, it promotes respect for nature, respect for others, tolerance, kindness and generosity.

For others, it is understood that kindness is synonymous with stupidity, and generosity is a proof of innocence. As for respect for nature and people, they should be considered only in rare cases where it does not conflict with profit maximization."

these are the highlines.

 

[Mozared]

It depends. Just because people say its bad, that doesn't make it so. If I want to show my respect for artists I do so by paying for their concerts and merchandise (let alone free advertising). If I decide that a band isn't worth it, then that sucks for them.

 

[Stormz]

I only download older hard to find games and even that I rarely ever do. But I know even that is considered wrong so I don't really try to justify it. I still plan on buying the actual games when I find them though.

 

[LockeDown]

There's nothing to justify, really. The material is already out there on the internet; I am merely partaking of the wealth of data present. If anyone ought to be morally culpable, it should be the person who put the pirated...whatever, on the net to begin with.

It also helps that I was born without a conscience.

 

[Gildan Bladeborn]

I've spent over $200 on music this month alone - consequently I don't particularly feel bad about the various obscure albums that I liked (but not enough to go out and buy) that have made their way into my collection through less legitimate channels. It's not like I couldn't have just kept on listening to them forever legally without paying anyways thanks to streaming internet radio after all.

I am more likely to buy something else after a spate of downloading though, just to 'balance things out', but the legally obtained portion of my album collection greatly out proportions the extra-legal sections, so I'm not losing much sleep over it.

I don't download movies or games (well, actually I do, but via services like GamersGate or Steam - no illegal downloads though).

 

[Marine Mike]

The creators of whatever I stream/download can have that warm fuzzy feeling of satisfaction that they have brought joy to my heart and entertainment to my otherwise drab, boring life. They made these things for the sole purpose of entertainment, not to make money right?



...right?

 

[Z(ombie)fan]

my justification is they werent asking for money in the fe=irst place! thats right, i im an
98% pc gamer and my only pc games (borderlands aside, which i payed for) are freeware!


because free most certainly does not =/= bad

 

[Wardnath]

ok first before you try doing something polemic, read this, it's in french spanish and italian but i'll translate it to you:
http://www.syti.net/TwoWorlds.html

"The first order that officially proclaimed,
applies to the "world below": the public, ordinary citizens.
The second order, one that actually governs the society,
applies to the "world from above": the holders
economic power and organizations.

The ordinary citizen is invited to observe the fauna and flora when in a natural site. But at the same time, illegal industrial discharges are allowed, and beautiful natural sites are ransacked for logging, or for industrial or housing projects.

The ordinary citizen is encouraged to tolerance, respect for others. But business leaders, human life is valued in dollars, and its estimated value is negative for the people "at the expense of society".

To summarize, there are 2 levels, 2 sets of values. One, Official, is for the good people. The other, unofficial, is for members of the ruling classes.

For some, it promotes respect for nature, respect for others, tolerance, kindness and generosity.

For others, it is understood that kindness is synonymous with stupidity, and generosity is a proof of innocence. As for respect for nature and people, they should be considered only in rare cases where it does not conflict with profit maximization."

these are the highlines.

Ummm, I think you're in the wrong thread, mate.

 

[Orcus The Ultimate]

ok first before you try doing something polemic, read this, it's in french spanish and italian but i'll translate it to you:
http://www.syti.net/TwoWorlds.html

"The first order that officially proclaimed,
applies to the "world below": the public, ordinary citizens.
The second order, one that actually governs the society,
applies to the "world from above": the holders
economic power and organizations.

The ordinary citizen is invited to observe the fauna and flora when in a natural site. But at the same time, illegal industrial discharges are allowed, and beautiful natural sites are ransacked for logging, or for industrial or housing projects.

The ordinary citizen is encouraged to tolerance, respect for others. But business leaders, human life is valued in dollars, and its estimated value is negative for the people "at the expense of society".

To summarize, there are 2 levels, 2 sets of values. One, Official, is for the good people. The other, unofficial, is for members of the ruling classes.

For some, it promotes respect for nature, respect for others, tolerance, kindness and generosity.

For others, it is understood that kindness is synonymous with stupidity, and generosity is a proof of innocence. As for respect for nature and people, they should be considered only in rare cases where it does not conflict with profit maximization."

these are the highlines.

Ummm, I think you're in the wrong thread, mate.

not really no, why would you consider you're doing something wrong when the law itself is that much flexible?