Poll: How do you personally feel about the term cisgender?
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I understand the point of it, so I guess it serves a purpose. That said, I've never heard the term outside of the Internet, most likely because I don't personally know anyone who is transgender.
So I don't really care.
So I don't really care.
I think it is a dumb pointless term that exists to keep insecure people from having feels about being strange.
The word is pointless, what is so bad about someone different from you being called "normal". The whole concept of avoiding "othering" people seems like coddling to the extreme. What exactly is.so bad about being strange?
Maybe im not in the loop, and am missing something about this.
The word is pointless, what is so bad about someone different from you being called "normal". The whole concept of avoiding "othering" people seems like coddling to the extreme. What exactly is.so bad about being strange?
Maybe im not in the loop, and am missing something about this.
Buckets of apathy. I don't really "feel" about words like this. The word has a meaning. The only thing I should be "feeling" is towards its usage situation by situation, which is a totally different question.
And, frankly, seeing the constant parade of cis people getting all offended over the term is downright embarrassing. I expressed in another one of these threads my distaste for people who are not in a majority category of people getting all offended for being called "not normal" because they literally are not normal by definition and that offense/insult fits the context, not the word, and the same thing goes here.
"Oh but I hear on tumblr people use it as an insult" well are we on tumblr? Is this person actively trying to insult you? No? It's a purely descriptive word which, in the majority of contexts, is not designed to offend? Then fucking deal with it. Ugh. The about of straight cis people whinging over this word certainly destroys the stereotype that it's only super-emotion trans/gay/etc. people that are "easily offended".
And, frankly, seeing the constant parade of cis people getting all offended over the term is downright embarrassing. I expressed in another one of these threads my distaste for people who are not in a majority category of people getting all offended for being called "not normal" because they literally are not normal by definition and that offense/insult fits the context, not the word, and the same thing goes here.
"Oh but I hear on tumblr people use it as an insult" well are we on tumblr? Is this person actively trying to insult you? No? It's a purely descriptive word which, in the majority of contexts, is not designed to offend? Then fucking deal with it. Ugh. The about of straight cis people whinging over this word certainly destroys the stereotype that it's only super-emotion trans/gay/etc. people that are "easily offended".
The power of language, and the stigmatising effect it can have.Reasonable Atheist said:
"Abnormal" has negative connotations when it's applied to people; that's obvious. Receiving insults based on your inherent characteristics can be emotionally harmful, stigmatising, and alienating; that's also pretty obvious.
You're unreasonably distorting the meaning of the word "normal" by attempting to imply that we all use it as an absolute, universal truth term.Aelinsaar said:
Normal is by definition relative and malleable. The fact that it can change does not invalidate what is normal at any one time. What ever is the majority is normal. "Normal" does not need to be constantly qualified because correct usage in context tells you all that you need to know. "A normal police vehicle is black and blue" would clearly apply to the current police vehicles used in the speaker's locale. To ask them to qualify it is needless.
Difference from the mean comes in degrees, and you could arbitrarily say that anyone +/-1 standard deviation away from the mean in any aspect is abnormal. Again, normal is contextual; albinos are not normal in terms of physicality but an individual albino may be completely normal personality-wise. A gay/trans person is abnormal in a sexuality/gender sense (being part of significant minority of people) but look completely normal by the standards of society at that time.Pluvia said:
I'll stick to not trans haha
Call yourself what you like, I think the amount of sexual identitys is overwhelming and ultimately pointless.
Remember that big thing about Facebook having like 50 odd selections? What's the point of all them if nobody knows what they mean?
Male, female is easy everybody knows what that is. Trans, people get but don't accept. Then you start going off saying things like cisgender and people have no clue what you're on about.
To me, if you got boobs and a vagina, you're a woman ... penis means you're a guy. What you where before any operation is irrelevant. You have boobs and a penis, you're at a half way house, no offence of course.
Just no point splitting hairs trying to be a special snowflake or pedantically accurate about what you are.
Call yourself what you like, I think the amount of sexual identitys is overwhelming and ultimately pointless.
Remember that big thing about Facebook having like 50 odd selections? What's the point of all them if nobody knows what they mean?
Male, female is easy everybody knows what that is. Trans, people get but don't accept. Then you start going off saying things like cisgender and people have no clue what you're on about.
To me, if you got boobs and a vagina, you're a woman ... penis means you're a guy. What you where before any operation is irrelevant. You have boobs and a penis, you're at a half way house, no offence of course.
Just no point splitting hairs trying to be a special snowflake or pedantically accurate about what you are.
In regards to people advocating "normal", I just think about how awkward it would sound, say, in the context of race.
"See those two guys talking over there?"
"Who?"
"The black guy and the normal guy."
Or even sexuality.
"Are you gay or normal?"
Just doesn't sound quite right to me.
"See those two guys talking over there?"
"Who?"
"The black guy and the normal guy."
Or even sexuality.
"Are you gay or normal?"
Just doesn't sound quite right to me.
That was actually where I first heard the term cis and I had no idea what it was supposed to mean until I looked it up.omega 616 said:
If you'd allow me to add one extra option I would add "ironic", considering the pigeon holing of non-queer gendered people is exactly what those "queer gendered" people want to get rid of, meanwhile it's that exact same group that has to put everyone in boxes for whatever reason.
On a side note; OP you seem to occupy yourself a lot with what other people think of, presumably, your gender/sexuality/whatever. Does it matter? Maybe don't pay attention to what other, inconsequential, people think about certain aspects of your life? Obviously I don't know you, so you could easily just toss these two cents in the next beggar's hat, but I've found that I'm a lot less nervous when I stop reading these kinds of threads.
On a side note; OP you seem to occupy yourself a lot with what other people think of, presumably, your gender/sexuality/whatever. Does it matter? Maybe don't pay attention to what other, inconsequential, people think about certain aspects of your life? Obviously I don't know you, so you could easily just toss these two cents in the next beggar's hat, but I've found that I'm a lot less nervous when I stop reading these kinds of threads.