Being a college student who is out of a job and currently looking, I can say that I don't tip well or even at all.
if you can't afford to tip, you can't afford to go out.Kstreitenfeld said:Being a college student who is out of a job and currently looking, I can say that I don't tip well or even at all.
if you go to a good bar, where your bartender is a bartender for a living and not to put himself through college, this really shouldn't be the case. i've had bartenders that could talk my ear off about different kinds of scotch.ravensheart18 said:I've been going to bars since I was 16 (41 now) and I've never had a bartender make a recommendation based on their "extensive" knowlege. Waitstaff yes, bartenders no.HuddledMass said:A bartenders job can be that simple...and I do agree with tipping out the waitstaff more then a bartender because they usually have to tip-out the bartender at the end of the night, because the bartender makes all of their drinks... but a good bartender knows extensively about wines and scotches, beer and cocktails... anyone can look in a book and make a drink, but if you know/love your job you know why what your making tastes good and can recommend a variety of drinks and give information to a less educated patron. ... just sayin' ...ravensheart18 said:For bartenders:
$1 if they are friendly, nothing if they aren't. Frankly bartenders don't do as much work as wait staff for thier tips, pouring out a couple ounces of liquor doesn't require that much skill.
because the assistant at best buy won't piss in your tacos.ultimatechance said:Im like Steve Buscemi from Reservoir Dogs. I think it is complete BS that I have to tip someone for doing their job. If i feel they put in the extra effort, or if i was troubling them in a sort of way, then yeah, Ill throw in a couple more bucks. But i just dont see why certain jobs will receive tips, while a job just as helpful (like an assistant at best buy) cant get a tip.
I don't see the logic in this. Sure I could tip but I could use that money for say another night out.seidlet said:if you can't afford to tip, you can't afford to go out.Kstreitenfeld said:Being a college student who is out of a job and currently looking, I can say that I don't tip well or even at all.
This is a flaw in the labor laws of the US. Because a person can make tips, that means their boss can get away with paying them jack squat.elemenetal150 said:wow people who don't tip are assholes, my friend is a waitress and gets like 3 bucks and hour because of tips (which they are allowed to pay under federal minimum wage if the person is most likely to get tips).
Who says I go to fancy restaurants?Macozu Hazume said:If you don't have the few extra dollars to tip somebody, you shouldn't be spending money on a fancy restaurant in the first place. At least, I think that's what he/she was getting at.Kstreitenfeld said:I don't see the logic in this. Sure I could tip but I could use that money for say another night out.seidlet said:if you can't afford to tip, you can't afford to go out.Kstreitenfeld said:Being a college student who is out of a job and currently looking, I can say that I don't tip well or even at all.
I disagree, it is a way in which everyone can gain:TyeDye75 said:Tipping is such a weird american institution. Employers pay staff peanuts and then guilt trip their customers into paying them the extra.
You need to understand that different countries, even countries within the same continent, & even different areas within the same country have different ways of doing things. Increasingly some European countries will take it upon themselves to add a service charge to the bill as a matter of course. When reserving a restaurant table I have never once been told that a service charge will be included automatically, although menus do frequently inform their patrons when this is the practice. If I receive adequate or even good service I will only tip via the service charge included in the bill, which means that the waiter or waitress is missing out since not only would I have usually tipped more, but many of these restaurants do not pass on the entirety of the tip to the staff.Good morning blues said:If they're charging you a gratuity, somebody has almost certainly agreed to have that added on - maybe whoever made the rezzos was told, maybe it says on the menu or on a sign somewhere that groups over a certain size are charged a grat. If you have a huge problem with it, you talk to them and get them to remove it. If they've charged a grat and you just haven't paid, that's worse than not tipping, that's straight-up ripping the place off.
Garzo said:Just looked up the minimum wage rates in America. I can see why tipping is a must there because that is rubbish.
No, employers can justify paying less because people will get tips. Tips have to be claimed for taxes, employers can say their employees are making a salary above minimum wage. The low hourly wages are the business saving money.TyeDye75 said:Tipping is such a weird american institution. Employers pay staff peanuts and then guilt trip their customers into paying them the extra.
A waiter is not piad to be socialable, a taxi driver is not paid to be fast, cooks are not paid to get you your food. The job description for a lot of jobs is to simply get something done. People usually put extra effort into it when they are reasonably sure that they can earn some extra money for doing so. If you took a cab somewhere and the driver meandered around and doubled the expected fare, what are you going to do? A lot of jobs only require that something is done and that the customer pays, not the quality of service. In a capitalist society you have businesses looking for ways to get more customers. Good customer service is one of the best ways to do this, but it's hard to keep workers happy if they get paid squat for dealing with the assholes of the world everyday. I used to work in tech support and got a pretty good starting wage, but you have to deal with people complaining and notknowing what to do all day, and it's hard to stay calm when this happens day in and day out. Tipping is a way of showing that you appreciate the service in a way that ensures future good service. Pretty much everyone I know who can earn tips will be nicer to someone who regularly tips than to those that don't. It's a possitive feedback loop.ultimatechance said:Im like Steve Buscemi from Reservoir Dogs. I think it is complete BS that I have to tip someone for doing their job. If i feel they put in the extra effort, or if i was troubling them in a sort of way, then yeah, Ill throw in a couple more bucks. But i just dont see why certain jobs will receive tips, while a job just as helpful (like an assistant at best buy) cant get a tip.