A better scenario is that you could clear 1 wrongfully accused man by bringing to light a drug problem the public defender had at the time of the hearing but at the same time they will have to over turn 10 convictions of confessed rapists.
Poll: How much is an innocent worth?
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Wasting 10 lives including 1 innocent life compared to wasting no lives...i'd let them all go.
Even with the off chance of those 9 committing a heinous act again, it's easier to just keep them monitored than live with the guilt of having 1 innocent person charged with a crime they didn't commit.
Even with the off chance of those 9 committing a heinous act again, it's easier to just keep them monitored than live with the guilt of having 1 innocent person charged with a crime they didn't commit.
It is better that ten guilty persons escape, than that one innocent suffer. -Sir William Blackstone, jurist.
Measuring the "worth" of an innocent in guilty people seems counter-intuitive. At the least, we should measure the worth of an innocent person in something more universal, like currency.
I propose that an innocent is worth 20,000 USD (13,837 EUR).
I propose that an innocent is worth 20,000 USD (13,837 EUR).
I'd rather let a hundred guilty men go free than chase after them.
-Officer Wiggum
In all seriousness, good question, but I think I'd go with letting them all go.
-Officer Wiggum
In all seriousness, good question, but I think I'd go with letting them all go.
No one is ever truly innocent. The 10 people should go to jail and the innocent man will have to go as well, eventually seeking his revenge for being wrongfully imprisoned and murdering me.
Every rape is potentially a ruined life. The one that is innocent screwed up enough to be mixed up in all of it. Honestly it is really hard to charge someone with rape these days, so much so that the guilty ones are getting away with it.
The situation is completely borked, but taken as is, screw the innocent especially since rapists tend to re-offend.
The situation is completely borked, but taken as is, screw the innocent especially since rapists tend to re-offend.
This is a balanced dilemma becuase at the time of my voting, the top option had 29 votes, and the bottom option had Exactly....wait for it.....29 votes. Impressive.
I would charge noone, NOT because I don't think the rapists should go to prison, but because if they all went to prison, they might rape the innocent person. And that's not cool.
I would charge noone, NOT because I don't think the rapists should go to prison, but because if they all went to prison, they might rape the innocent person. And that's not cool.
Pfft. Moral problems? I send my undead to get confessions out of the guilty and believe me, they are great at that. The innocent one is set free unless he attempts to fight the undead.
Also, keep a watch on all accused parties. Putting rapists in a prison just locks them up with more people to rape and gradually increase their sexual tension.
EDIT: And one more thing: Has CostCo taken over the world? We're having trials in bulk now? Or are you thinking of ways to make the justice system even worse?
Also, keep a watch on all accused parties. Putting rapists in a prison just locks them up with more people to rape and gradually increase their sexual tension.
EDIT: And one more thing: Has CostCo taken over the world? We're having trials in bulk now? Or are you thinking of ways to make the justice system even worse?
How hard is it to use a lie-detector or DNA or witness accounts.
I mean, unless this was THE CLEANEST MOST PLANNED RAPE EVAH there'd be 'something' there.
Personally, I don't really know about the whole '9 guilty go prision and 1 innocent' or 'all go free cause 1 innocent might be'.
What I DO know is that rapists should be given the same punishment as murderers.
A rapist, I'd say, is worse than a murderer.
At least the dead can rest - a rape victim has to live with that horror the rest of his or her life.
I mean, unless this was THE CLEANEST MOST PLANNED RAPE EVAH there'd be 'something' there.
Personally, I don't really know about the whole '9 guilty go prision and 1 innocent' or 'all go free cause 1 innocent might be'.
What I DO know is that rapists should be given the same punishment as murderers.
A rapist, I'd say, is worse than a murderer.
At least the dead can rest - a rape victim has to live with that horror the rest of his or her life.
I will ignore the fact that people get separate trials, not walmart bulk trials, but...
I'd convict them all. Ten years? Pfft. They deserve more. The one innocent can suck it up to protect society from the others.
I'd convict them all. Ten years? Pfft. They deserve more. The one innocent can suck it up to protect society from the others.
Knowingly convicting an innocent is never an acceptable sacrifice.
A justice system doing such things does not even deserve that title, nor should anyone respect it since it violates one of the most basic human rights and the primary axiom of criminal law in any civilized society is founded on.
Nobody deserves more respect or better treatment than the lowest they're willing to treat an innocent.
A justice system doing such things does not even deserve that title, nor should anyone respect it since it violates one of the most basic human rights and the primary axiom of criminal law in any civilized society is founded on.
Nobody deserves more respect or better treatment than the lowest they're willing to treat an innocent.
Charge them all. Being charged doesn't nessicarly mean they will be convicted. In a situation this unlikely the one innocent guy will probably be determined in the course of trial.awesomeClaw said:
In this case your basically talking about letting 10 criminals go to avoid what amounts to an inconveinence. The whole purpose of a trial is to determine guilt or innocence, simply bringing charges is saying you have enough justified suspician to bring it before the legal system officially.
In the case of an actual trial and conviction, it's extremely unlikely in a criminal case that you would have to convict or "pardon" an entire group of people like this, and by the time you got to that point it's hard to believe you wouldn't know who did what exactly, since if you didn't have that kind of information the case probably would have gotten tossed out.
Remember that in the US you have the charges brought, this thing called an arraignment hearing where they are reviewed to ensure that there is enough here to justify the case actually going to trial, and then the actual trial. Simply having charges brought against someone doesn't mean they are guilty, just that you have enough suspician to pursue matters, even during the actual trial it's still "innocent until proven guilty".
Of course in some countries other than the USA there might be more "meaning" to having charges brought against someone, especially if it becomes the burden of the accused to prove their innocence rather the way things are in the USA's system.