Poll: Hunting

[Mr. Payne]

No, we have already done ENOUGH damage to creature's with possibility to have a chance at evolution, and we ourselves uhh... Have prejudice and genocide, so we dont evolve mutch. Like how our anscestors killed off the Neanderthals.. Thats just SICK. Thats beyond the human domancy madness, thats downright wrong. call me what you will, but hunting is a no-no to me, unless it is necesarry. Joy-hunting is immoral and a disgrace to the "human mission". It is literally inhumane. Why, would you shoot your beloved dog if you went wolf hunting the day after he went missing, and didnt notice that the wolf your hunting is your best friend? Hmm?

And before my new age troll bretheren rip me to shreds, please note the use of the word "unnecessary" as in if you need to do it, its fine.

 

[Wyatt]

if you dont live in the country surrounded by hoards of animals you shouldnt be so quick too judge hunting in a compleatly bad light. i argue against the attitude of what i think of as killers but i dont argue against hunting. there are those people who do it in a sporting way and are in fact not hurting the ecology but helping it. my only issue is with halfwhits that think sport is shooting from a truck while half drunk and then spending time telling lies to everyone they know about what a hero they are.

i live in deer country. and with no natural predators besides man deer become a HUGE problem. and yes i know that man was the reason the ecology got screwed up in the first place, but that doesnt do anything to fix it now. they are either gunna die by deer hunting or they are gunna die by starvation or traffic accident. id rather see a quick gun shot to the heart for a few of a herd than a slow starvation for all of them due to over population.

 

[Damien the Pigeon]

My view is that if you are going to hunt, you better eat EVERYTHING you kill. Otherwise, you're just getting pleasure (and not food) out of killing a living thing. I find that pretty sick and perverse.

sums up my thoughts exactly.

my other thought on the argument is this; it's unfair. you get a .50 cal rifle and what does the deer have, NOTHING! i only accept hunting for sport if you even the playing field: going against a deer with your bare hands or something. even then you should still eat the meat.

I agree with that, too. In addition, for all those saying that people should use a bow and arrow or a crossbow instead of a gun to level the playing field a bit, you had better be damn good with those weapons, because if you stick five arrows or bolts in a deer and it's still not dead, then it's suffering pretty badly.

 

[Wyatt]

very true. but atleast the deer stands a chance of escape. some of the better hunters in my family bow hunt and more than one season they have gotten nothing at all. its not easy to get close enough to a deer with a bow to kill it. my family has wracked up as many as 20 too 25 deer combined between the 16 that hunt with rifle and black powder weapons, and the 4 that bow hunt have had years when none of them have gotten anything or at most 1 deer.

i find that generaly if they can even get close enough for a shot in the first place they can make a clean kill. a deer is more apt to suffer from a rifle hunter that shoots and hits but doesnt kill and is to lazy to track it and finish it. unless its got a 30 point rack of corse then they will call in the hounds and a search party that would make any missing child efforts pale by comparison.

 

[insane44]

I am a hunter everybody I know hunts from this experience I would have to say hunting is fine if you eat what you killed, if you kill for fun that is'nt right

 

[SkinnySlim]

I love hunting, I killed a deer last month and it was awesome. Except, there was only one bad thing I hated about it. (Actually this a my fault, so it doesn't happen all the time.)

Gutshots. Oh God, gutshots. I don't think there is anything worse than I gutshot I made that morning.

After I shot the buck, we went down to pick it up and put it on the cart attached to the truck when I saw where the bullet went. "My dad says, "That there's a gutshot." At the time I didn't really care but when we got back to the water hose-cleaning station thing, we started gutting it. As soon as we opened it up, out came the most horrible stench on the planet.

I hadn't realized how bad the gutshot wound was at first, but when we cut it open, out came shit, corn, grass, and blood.

IT WAS SO DISGUSTING

You wanna know what's worse than a gut shot? How about getting one in the spine? That just about broke me as a hunter, seeing the animal suffer, trying to run on only it's front legs, and hearing that damn bleating, it shook me up so bad it took me a moment to finish the job. That is one thing I always warn folks about. Took me years to climb back into a tree stand.
As far as sport hunting, "pure" hunters are lying their asses off if they say it's only about the food. Who doesn't pass on an imperfect rack on a buck, waiting for that beaut 14 pointer to come around? Sure, you shoot that doe for the good meat, but you shoot that buck for the rack, the meat is just secondary. And sure, coyotes are a pest, but who hunts them for that reason? Is it not because they are damn smart animals, and taking one down is more about a feeling of "I outsmarted him!" Or how about the fun of calling in a big ol fat Thom, or calling in those geese/ducks? It's every bit as much about sport as it is about eating or controlling pests. If it was about meat, you would only shoot doe's as they taste better. If it was about controlling pests, you would only shoot the sick and lame. Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to get some shut eye so I can go smoke me a couple rabbits in the morning, both because it's damn fun, and because they are so damn tasty...

 

[DeathsAmbassador]

me and my Dad go bow hunting for deer whenever we can, we always the deer we catch it. I enjoy hunting, not necessarily the actual hunt but rather just getting out of the house and doing something outdoors.

 

[chronobreak]

go kill a grizzly with a buck knife THEN ill say your a man.

So what would you say about this guy?

I would say that the stupid bastard was hyped up on adrenaline to the point that he didn't realize that he could made a run for it while the bear was stunned.

My dad once encountered a mother black bear while he was hiking. He had already shot a buck, so the only weapon he had was his bowie knife (that thing is huge, by the way). He jumped into a creek bed before the bear saw him and remained there until it went away.

I was under the impression it wasn't a good idea to run from a bear. I mean, I probably would, but maybe I wouldn't be alive like this guy is. He put up a fight, which took some serious balls, and took out the threat to his life, just like any animal might do. "Stupid bastard" isn't a good thing to say about someone, as well. He was smart enough to do what he had to in order to stay alive.

 

[Booze Zombie]

Enless you're going to actually use the animal for something, there's no physical point to killing it.

 

[SkinnySlim]

Well, unless you notice some starving buzzards nearby. They gotta eat too, you know...

 

[Booze Zombie]

Yeah, but generally they just wait for a truck or bear to show up and greet a woodland animal.

 

[dalek sec]

As long as the hunter makes good use of the animal up you kill I really don't care.

 

[RyantheLion]

I think as long as it's balanced, and the hunter uses the animal that he kills, I think it's ok. It's no less cruel then how we get beef, pork and chicken. Plus if there is an overpopulation of deer, thining out their numbers helps other deer, and keeps them from starving to death.

I agree.

 

[Powerhelix]

Killing animals is nessessary so they dont overpopulate and all starve to death, us killing a few animals is better for the species.
<see darwin's theroy>

 

[anti_strunt]

Killing animals is nessessary so they dont overpopulate and all starve to death, us killing a few animals is better for the species.
<see darwin's theroy>

Well, Mother Nature seems to have managed fairly well in the millions of years before the erection of state-approved population controls... Equilibrium is hardly a natural state of things, anyway. Nevertheless, a few of my friends are hunters, and they are all resonable, learned chaps, so I've never have had much trouble with the concept.

 

[Powerhelix]

Killing animals is nessessary so they dont overpopulate and all starve to death, us killing a few animals is better for the species.
<see darwin's theroy>

Well, Mother Nature seems to have managed fairly well in the millions of years before the erection of state-approved population controls... Equilibrium is hardly a natural state of things, anyway. Nevertheless, a few of my friends are hunters, and they are all resonable, learned chaps, so I've never have had much trouble with the concept.

Well... I would like to point out that mother nature never had to put up with humans destroying animal food source. But, i agree that hunters need to be resonable and take it in moderation.

 

[anti_strunt]

Killing animals is nessessary so they dont overpopulate and all starve to death, us killing a few animals is better for the species.
<see darwin's theroy>

Well, Mother Nature seems to have managed fairly well in the millions of years before the erection of state-approved population controls... Equilibrium is hardly a natural state of things, anyway. Nevertheless, a few of my friends are hunters, and they are all resonable, learned chaps, so I've never have had much trouble with the concept.

Well... I would like to point out that mother nature never had to put up with humans destroying animal food source. But, i agree that hunters need to be resonable and take it in moderation.

Actually, that's completely true. Managed to forget that with some 6,000,000,000 people around, we're going to affect local ecosystems whether we hunt or not...

 

[SkinnySlim]

Yeah, in my area wolves and cougars are gone, so deer rule the day. Chronic wasting disease is rampant, so there are regularly open hunts to reduce the heard. People screwed it up, people gotta fix it...

 

[TMAN10112]

Because I feel like this thread could use a bump:

I should also mention that in the last few years people have noticed that the deer in my area are adapting to the hunting seasons. By this I mean that hunters have been noticing deer looking up into the trees as they walk. While it might seem like not much at all, this means that the deer (who have never had any need to look up into the trees due to the lack of preditors up there) are learning to spot hunters hiding in tree stands, and then passing the knowlage on to their offspring, thus adapting to humans being their main preditor.

 

[EchetusXe]

"OMG killing innocent little animals!"

Only hunt if your gonna eat the thing, even then its pretty weird that you would want to spend your time doing that.