Poll: I face a dilemma right now...

[Dusquad]

A while back I ended up with two copies of Crysis 2 for the Xbox 360. One was scratched and could not be played without an install and on was not. I gave the scratched copy to my friend after installing it on his console. This is where it gets tricky, in return, he gave (or at least I was lead to believe this) Marvel Vs. Capcom 3.

This was about 2 months ago. Now I am planning on selling a few games so I might be able to purchase a new graphics card and I included MvC3 among the games I am planning on selling (I haven't yet). No sooner had I told my friend about the idea he started going on about how the game was still his and that he had only loaned it to me. He said that " could take MvC3..." as apart of the trade. I was under the impression that the game was mine due to the trade but he seems to believe otherwise. I honestly do not know what to do; he is my friend and I don't want to anger him but I personally believe that I am the new owner of the game. When I brought this up to him he stated that he got "a copy of Crysis 2 that [he doesn't] even like..." and he said that it was not a fair deal, but he liked it when I gave it to him.

I don't know exactly what I should do here. I am really suspicious of him because he keeps asking me if he can sell my copy of Dragon Age 2 (before any of this) because I said I might want to sell it as well (Since I have the pc version now).

So what does the Escapist think I should do and or what is right?

 

[Palademon]

Well, if it was me, since I would feel guilty I'd give it back -_-
But to a lot of people this may seem spineless.

 

[alittlepepper]

I would say that your property is yours. If you agreed on a swap, and he's welched on the deal, then get your copy of Crysis 2 back. After all, if he doesn't like it it shouldn't be a problem to get the game back in exchange for what he still thinks is his. It seems fairly obvious that he's not going to come around to your way of thinking. If he gives you problems saying that you gave him the game, then say "Yes, because you were giving me this one, so I guess it's mine."
And don't loan or swap anything else with the guy. I know he's your friend, but from a purely outside perspective the guy seems like a total shyster to me.

 

[Lord_Nemesis]

Fuck him, sell it, he made the trade, he can live with the choice and if he really, acctualy takes a fit at it... well he aint really a good friend. And let him sell Dragon Age 2, it does suck.

 

[kittii-chan 300]

he gave you the game. he is tryng to be one of those horrible annoying people who try to steal your stuff subtley. if you want to sell it you should. if you would rather not dont. that doesnt really help though...

 

[Rathcoole]

Sell it, a deal is a deal. He can not simply change the terms after it has been agreed. I had a friend like this once. I bought gran terismo 1 off him for £5 (years ago not long after it came out when £5 meant something) then a few days later he comes to me having already spent the money asking for the game back promising to give me back the money later. I told him to go F**k himself. A deal is a deal if they have sellers remorse that is there problem.

 

[necromanzer52]

I'd say to give it back. But that's just me.

 

[Bomberman4000]

A deal's a deal. Period. End of discussion.

I know it's cliche and been said, but that's the nature of the world. If you come to terms on an agreement both parties should uphold that agreement unless there was some underhanded tactics by one party.

You said the disc was heavily scratched, so did it install properly on his system? That would be the only circumstance under which I'd say give him the game back. If it still works properly then he's out of luck.

 

[bdcjacko]

If this is what you qualify as a dilemma, I envy you. Anyhow, I agree with everyone else. If you traded for it, it is yours. Do with it as you please.

 

[Dusquad]

A deal's a deal. Period. End of discussion.

I know it's cliche and been said, but that's the nature of the world. If you come to terms on an agreement both parties should uphold that agreement unless there was some underhanded tactics by one party.

You said the disc was heavily scratched, so did it install properly on his system? That would be the only circumstance under which I'd say give him the game back. If it still works properly then he's out of luck.

It worked perfectly, he started getting mad when he couldn't beat a level a few days ago.

 

[JMeganSnow]

So what does the Escapist think I should do and or what is right?

Do whatever is necessary to extricate yourself from the situation as painlessly as possible (if it means giving the game back to him, do so).

What you should REALLY do is learn from this experience in your FUTURE dealings with this guy, and not swap property with him or similar in the future, since he clearly can't be trusted. But don't go out of your way to be a dick and wreck whatever value you DO get out of your friendship with him over the ownership of a *game*.

Now, if it were something considerably more valuable that was given to you as a gift (or in exchange) then yeah, I'd say go ahead and stand up for yourself, because some people just have *no* concept of personal boundaries and you're better off terminating your dealings with them altogether. But due to the low value of the items involved, it's probably best to assume, with good will, that it's a simple misunderstanding and there's no point in starting a huge fight over it. Just protect yourself in the future.

 

[Jessta]

if the crysis two game is still in perfectly fine working condition trade back and sell crysis two, that should be something he can see as fair.

 

[lobster1077]

EDIT- no! bad computer!

Oh dear looks like your computer's having a mental breakdown

 

[Android2137]

You haven't sold it yet? Then just swap the items back. Surely a couple of games isn't worth a friendship. Sure your friend is temperamental, but all people have their faults. This was all a misunderstanding and if he gets his game back, he should have no reason to be angry with you. And if you ever swap items again, ask if this is supposed to be temporary or keepsies.

Incidentally, if he still is angry with you after he gets his game back, then... well... your friend is a scary person and I'd recommend against trading, loaning, or borrowing things with him.

 

[Sun Flash]

Swap back and sell Crysis 2. If he refuses, I see no reason why you can't sell MvC3.

 

[Borrock]

if the crysis two game is still in perfectly fine working condition trade back and sell crysis two, that should be something he can see as fair.

^ This. Also, if you feel like it might be bad form to sell a scratched, albeit still playable copy of Crysis 2, you could always install it on your system and use the scratched copy yourself. Of course, if the guy doesn't see swapping the games back as being fair, then it might just be best to sell MvC3 and deal with the consequences.

 

[katsumoto03]

MvC3 is shit, so try to get something else instead.

 

[shiaramoon]

I would say that your property is yours. If you agreed on a swap, and he's welched on the deal, then get your copy of Crysis 2 back. After all, if he doesn't like it it shouldn't be a problem to get the game back in exchange for what he still thinks is his. It seems fairly obvious that he's not going to come around to your way of thinking. If he gives you problems saying that you gave him the game, then say "Yes, because you were giving me this one, so I guess it's mine."
And don't loan or swap anything else with the guy. I know he's your friend, but from a purely outside perspective the guy seems like a total shyster to me.

To me, this seems like the best solution. It, hopefully avoids ticking off your friend any further while putting you in a sort "win/win" situation. If he doesn't trade back, then you can sell it as you had planned, if he does trade back, keep the scratched copy for yourself to play and sell the unscratched copy. And don't let him sell a game that is still technically yours, whether you have an extra copy of it or not. If anyone gets the money from selling your extra DA:2, it should be you, not him. You definitely need to make sure that you draw out some ground rules for any future deals with him, that way everyone understands the deal and no one gets cheated.