Poll: I was thinking about the smoking Warnings (Smokers and non-smokers included)
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I smoke, have done for years and would quite like to quit.D Bones said:
I try to be considerate. If I'm standing still (say outside a building) and smoking I'll try to make sure I stand out of the way, I hold my breath as people walk past so I don't breathe smoke into their faces, I put my cig behind my back if someone walks past with a small child (not sure why, just a sense of guilt and a feeling that little kids shouldn't see people smoking).
The people who really bother me are the non-smokers who make a point of giving me dirty looks. I'm sorry but if I can't smoke inside then at least let me enjoy my smoke outside. I don't mind being asked to move a bit if it's bothering them but just being rude for the sake of it gets on my nerves.
(I conceed that a lot of the dirty looks I get may have something to do with the bright purple hair and facial piercings but c'est la vie)
OT - I cut the warnings off of my ciggarette packets and collect them, kind of like pokemon cards.
The poll is missing the "I don't care" option. I don't smoke, no one in my family does, no friends or aquintances do. I have no care with the situation of smoking, let them do it.
It's dead easy to stop people doing all sorts of things. Not 100%, but to a great extent. We laugh about how prostitution laws and drug laws and whatnot don't do anything, but the hell they don't. You think there wouldn't be a WHOLE LOT MORE drugs and prostitutes without laws against them? Nonsense.manythings said:
I could drive twice as fast as I do and safely. I have a great car, I'm young, I've driven a lot, and I like speed. I want to do it. The sole reason I don't is fear of the consequences of breaking traffic laws. I think if you look around you'll see a whole bunch of parallel circumstances for yourself and others.
At no point does this poll require an I don't care. If you didn't care why bother entering at all? I asked "Do you think the possibility of erectile dysfunction, if not outright inability to perform sexually, would prove to be a more potent form of smoking discouragement?" You don't have the option to not care, there is only yes or no.TheYellowCellPhone said:
Meh, if people want to fuck up their bodies, it's their own choice, as long as they're not affecting bystanders, do what you will, no law has the right to own your body for you.
Well with regard to driving I wouldn't drive really fast because I'm pretty sure that's going to end up in the crippling region or worse. If not for me than for someone else and I think it is kind of disappointing that the only thing stopping you is you might get a fine or points on your license.Lord Monocle Von Banworthy said:
On the other point I believe freedom to not have your door kicked in because you like to eat unhealthy food is kind of what I meant. Legislation of behaviour should only be to stop harm people can do to others.
Once again, not asking what you think of smoking I'm asking what people think about smoking warnings and their effectiveness. This has nothing to do with personal freedom to smoke or anything like that.Arawn.Chernobog said:
Lets see, I haven't had sex in nearly 5 years. Unlike women, cigarettes don't care what you look like, what your interests are or what kind of car you drive and a fiver a day for fags is much less expensive than 50 a week for a prostitute. So yeah, if having my dick not work is a consequence of smoking then it's really going to affect my life isn't it...pfft.
As for the ads and warnings, the only reason I'd stop smoking is financial or if they make it illegal. It wasn't like I woke up one day ignorant to the effects and decided to start, everyone who smokes knows well in advance it will more likely than not will kill you. As will the sun, mobile phones, global warming, manbearpig, salt, fat, coffee, video games, sugar, driving, the cold, the heat and so on. No one makes it out of this life alive, so if something is enjoyable, even if it smells or has adverse health effects or might make Mr. Pussypants in the corner cough and stare dissaprovingly, people are going to do it.
Also, wasn't it only a month ago we had the anti-smoking threads and gung-ho militant "Fuck that shit will kill you, you're obviously a fucking moron, they should ban everything which could possibly cause harm to anyone, even in the privacy of their own homes because I say they should!!!11!" idiots doing the rounds? I figured a little more time would elapse before it started rising up again.
As for the ads and warnings, the only reason I'd stop smoking is financial or if they make it illegal. It wasn't like I woke up one day ignorant to the effects and decided to start, everyone who smokes knows well in advance it will more likely than not will kill you. As will the sun, mobile phones, global warming, manbearpig, salt, fat, coffee, video games, sugar, driving, the cold, the heat and so on. No one makes it out of this life alive, so if something is enjoyable, even if it smells or has adverse health effects or might make Mr. Pussypants in the corner cough and stare dissaprovingly, people are going to do it.
Also, wasn't it only a month ago we had the anti-smoking threads and gung-ho militant "Fuck that shit will kill you, you're obviously a fucking moron, they should ban everything which could possibly cause harm to anyone, even in the privacy of their own homes because I say they should!!!11!" idiots doing the rounds? I figured a little more time would elapse before it started rising up again.
Hammer said:
Yeah I think the idea is to get on your nerves. I really, really hate smokers, and I give the dirty looks. It's like every time I have to walk through someone's fucking smoke cloud I have this guttural hatred that rises up. Smoking when any one is around is one of the most obnoxious, rude, disrespectful things you could do. It just smells so bad, and it gets on everyone else's clothes, has negative health effects and is horrible for the smoker too. It's like flaunting the fact that my tax money (I'm Canadian) is going to paying for these pricks in the hospital when they get cancer or so smoking related disease.
Imagine someone who has really horrible farts. You probably wouldn't want to be around this person, but you might forgive them because they can't help it. Maybe they can't make it away from people when they have to let loose. Now imagine that this person has control over when and where they release their noxious fumes, and they choose to do it on busy streets and around the entrances to apartments and other buildings. That person would be a total prick! Especially if they had the resources to get help and stop.
Many smokers will turn away or blow in the opposite direction, but that's a joke. When you smoke you make a huge cloud around you that emanates like 10 feet, so holding your breath won't do anything. I've literally smelled smoke from about 100 feet away from the smokers when there's a draft, and I live on a mountain that gets foggy a lot, which prevents the smoke from dissipating for up to half an hour.
I live on campus, and there are many signs around the school that say no smoking, and people literally smoke right beside the signs, which are often located under high ceilings. People will smoke under other high ceilings in outdoor areas, as if the one open side will magically carry away all the smoke. It doesn't happen.
So if you smoke, you're being really rude and horrible to other people. You can't expect them not to retaliate.
Third times the charm; I am not advocating or impugning the smoker/non-smoker lifestyle. I am asking if people believe the possibility of erectile dysfunction, if not the total inability to perform sexually, would prove a more potent message for the discouragement of smoking?Pariah87 said:
Look up "wanking".Pariah87 said:
OT: If a combination of the pictures they now put on the cartons, the NHS ads, the undeniable cancer link, the effects of second-hand smoking and cock problems don't put you off it, then I don't know what will.
Still, the numbers of smokers is declining so I guess the campaigns are slowly working.
And yeah, the willy-worries put me off (along with the smell and the coughing and everything else).
Read my posts above. If it truly only harmed the user, I doubt you'd see nearly so much of an uproar. You really only smoke alone in private and your emissions never go anywhere near anyone else who hasn't made an informed decision to inhale them? I disbelieve that.Pariah87 said:
Oh in that case, I think their effective enough, they share factual occurrences of excessive smoking, it's up to the people to choose what to do with itmanythings said:
I think I saw it mentioned in a cinema during an NHS 'everyone should stop smoking' drive when I was 14 or so, which would be 6 years ago now.manythings said:
Admittedly the shortening is news to me, but the idea that smoking will cause impotence I have heard before.
Have you ever actually looked at a smoke cloud? It dissapates within a few feet of the person smoking, closer on a windy day. The point of holding my breath or turning away is so that I don't breath the thickest part of the smoke directly into someone's face, which would be rude and I would completely understand if someone was angry or upset that I did that. The one time I actually did blow a load of smoke in a passer by's face it was because a friend made me laugh and I apologised for about five minutes because I felt so bad for filling this woman's face full of my smoke.Orbert said:
Smoking next to No Smoking signs is a difficult one. I confess to having done it on occasion, but only when there was nobody around and normally as an 'I'm so rebellious' joke amongst friends.
As for smoking under high ceilings - Smoke rises so it shouldn't be all that bad. And I do try to stay out of people's way when indulging my vice, but sometimes I would like to avoid the rain (I'm British, it rains here a LOT). If I were to come stand next to you and then spark up you would be perfectly within your rights to ask me to move away, but if you come and stand near me then don't expect the same rules to apply.
I'm not asking you to like or condone my decision but I don't believe I deserve filthy looks for it either. A polite 'would you mind moving away/not doing that near me' would suffice.
3rd try? Well, good luck to ya. With my Grandparents trying again, I know it's rough. Heh, just hope you don't get really, really pissy while doing it.unoleian said:
If someone could make all ciggarettes smell like cigars I think that'd turn off almost everyone from smoking.