Poll: If all drugs were legal...

[Feedmeketamine]

Oh yes, ive been to the other side, ive smoked crack and heroin, and come back again, all in all id say its just a bit of fun and provides a much more entertaining way to kill yourself than a shotgun to the head if your so inclined.

Hallucinogens are the best though, and on the whole the least harmful.

 

[Leemaster777]

Nope. I don't even drink.

I've smoked weed in the past, and it just doesn't do much for me. I get the munchies, and I get slightly goofy, but that's about it. Honestly, I've never understood why weed is such a big deal to so many people. I really think it should just be legalized at this point. But if it was, I still wouldn't smoke it. Just not interested. Also never done mushrooms, and I wouldn't do it. I don't really have a problem with mushrooms, but if you get some from someone who doesn't know what they're doing, you're gonna have a bad time.

As for synthetic drugs... fuck no. That shit'll kill you. I have absolutely no interest whatsoever in EVER trying that kind of crap. Way, way too many horror stories of people fucking up their lives with that stuff.

 

[hazabaza1]

Naw. I drink on occasion but that's about it. Weed is spread around so freely in this town that if I wanted to I could probably get some but god damn it smells like shit so that's a no-no. Never been interesting in trying the harder stuff.

 

[Elementary - Dear Watson]

Not even legal highs are legal under military law, so I wouldn't. The only things we are allowed are tabacco and booze; which we consume at a rate of knots!

 

[Joccaren]

I would, but only because I would anyway. I just haven't yet.

Like smoking and drinking its not something I'd take up on a full time basis. It'd cost too much. But I'd do it occasionally for recreational purposes, and social when with friends.

Really, something's legality doesn't bother me too much. I have morals, and I can follow them. Provided I do it in a way that doesn't pose a risk to others, I won't bother about the legality of something. Its also the approach police tend to take. If they come to a party to tell you to turn the music down and see a bong being passed around, but nobody being aggressive, and no real signs of it being heavily abused, they've fairly often let it slide. From speaking with some of them they see it as more important to protect the peace than to crack down on every minor infraction.

 

[SonofaJohannes]

No, I even stay away from the legal stuff. I'm a good boy, you see.

 

[Blood Brain Barrier]

Not even legal highs are legal under military law, so I wouldn't. The only things we are allowed are tabacco and booze; which we consume at a rate of knots!

Isn't the question meant to be IF they were legal? No point following a military law that no longer exists, is there?

 

[Elementary - Dear Watson]

Not even legal highs are ilegal under military law, so I wouldn't. The only things we are allowed are tabacco and booze; which we consume at a rate of knots!

Isn't the question meant to be IF they were legal? No point following a military law that no longer exists, is there?

This is the problem. Even if they were legalised in civvi street, they would remain illegal in the military. It would never happen for us.

The day it does is the day we lose our reputation and our discapline... In that case then I would definitely take them to drown out the shit existance I would then have!

 

[Blood Brain Barrier]

Not even legal highs are ilegal under military law, so I wouldn't. The only things we are allowed are tabacco and booze; which we consume at a rate of knots!

Isn't the question meant to be IF they were legal? No point following a military law that no longer exists, is there?

This is the problem. Even if they were legalised in civvi street, they would remain illegal in the military. It would never happen for us.

The day it does is the day we lose our reputation and our discapline... In that case then I would definitely take them to drown out the shit existance I would then have!

The discoverer of LSD (A. Hoffman) was an incredibly disciplined chemist, and also one of the biggest "druggies" in recent history. You'll find that to be fairly common. Shulgin was another one who experimented with tryptamines in addition to his significant scientific work with them. So I don't think discipline is the problem, but then I also don't equate high illicit drug use with a lack of discipline.

 

[Shpongled]

Not even legal highs are ilegal under military law, so I wouldn't. The only things we are allowed are tabacco and booze; which we consume at a rate of knots!

Isn't the question meant to be IF they were legal? No point following a military law that no longer exists, is there?

This is the problem. Even if they were legalised in civvi street, they would remain illegal in the military. It would never happen for us.

The day it does is the day we lose our reputation and our discapline... In that case then I would definitely take them to drown out the shit existance I would then have!

You can drink booze, get wasted, fuck prostitutes and start fights all night but as soon as someone has a spliff or something the whole military core collapses? Why do you eat this bullshit up?

The armed forces are full of people who love getting coked up, pilled up, whatever. Legality would make no difference whatsoever. When it comes to partying the armed forces are worse than students. Young males buzzed up to their tits on testosterone with a steady income and not much opportunity to spend it. Not exactly a recipe for a quiet night in.

I think destroying your life because some of your squadmates tried some speed might be a bit of an over reaction.

OT: It would be nice to have access to LSD and mushrooms and various other rare hallucinogens. It would also be nice to have access to good weed more readily. Other than ease of access legality wouldn't make much difference for me at this point, i know which ones i like and want to continue to use. I wouldn't go out and try anything new purely because it's legal.

 

[Strazdas]

No. I would not take drugs even if they would have extra benefits. I do not drink alcohol or smoke. i hate the effects drugs have on human body. IF anything id be up for banning alcohol because im one of those assholes that want to force other people be healhier.

You would have to take a fair bit of LSD to lose control, a couple of tabs and you'll just see a lot of triangles and melty walls.

I don't think I was very clear when I wrote that (I'm still trying to figure out a good way to do it).

Even the little amount of control loss is not something I like. To use a (hopefully) good example, I don't like to drink alcohol because even just a tiny bit of loss of control feels really weird to me. Like...that tiny amount of buzz when you've had a drink or two (so you're not drunk yet but you can feel it)....that feeling bugs the hell out of me. For whatever reason, whether it's a justified fear or not, I don't like the feeling of not being in complete control.

Yep, im pretty much the same way. control loss is evil and noone should ever have that. im a control freak.

 

[Deathmageddon]

If all recreational drugs were legal, I'd move. "Strength of the mind rests in sobriety" - Pythagoras

 

[Elementary - Dear Watson]

You can drink booze, get wasted, fuck prostitutes and start fights all night but as soon as someone has a spliff or something the whole military core collapses? Why do you eat this bullshit up?

The armed forces are full of people who love getting coked up, pilled up, whatever. Legality would make no difference whatsoever. When it comes to partying the armed forces are worse than students. Young males buzzed up to their tits on testosterone with a steady income and not much opportunity to spend it. Not exactly a recipe for a quiet night in.

I think destroying your life because some of your squadmates tried some speed might be a bit of an over reaction.

Spoken like a true chap talking about something he has barely any knowledge about... Congrats.

Yes... we have army squaddies (I am not army, nor am I a squaddie) who take drugs. And yes, we know how to party. The druggies invariably get caught out... mostly because they are oft coupled with heavy debt, their digs aren't up to standard, their work level decreases and they become disinterested with the service... then they get turfed out.

If we lost the ability to turf out the weak links then the entire services would lose its professional grounding.

 

[Milanezi]

I said "no", but that applies to the rules we have today. You see, if all drugs were legalized we would have an impact on the way society works, in terms of economics and industry most of all, so it's hard to say because, well, it would be another world, so different from today that I dare not choose at all...

For instance, let's mention one of the least (?) damaging dudes, marijuana. My father-in-law is a neurologist, I know not how to go into specifics the way he did, but once I mentioned how I saw no problem with legalizing marijuana, since common cigars are legal and so damn damaging. His answer was unexpected, though he agrees that it is hypocritical, he stated that there is an inherent damage that (abusive use of) marijuana causes and that many people ignore, it has to do with brain cells in a brain area and whatnot: ultimately, it won't kill you, but it will damage your speed for processing your thoughts for good... And that's when I strated thinking about the "funny and constantly anesthetized" manner of speaking of most of my heavily pot headed friends (not the guys who'd do it once in a while, the ones who'd eat it for breakfast if they could).

My point? If everyone exaggerates on a drug that "slows you down" like pot, we would have dramatic changes in many society levels, because, well society is nothing but a pact between the people that comprise it, a pact that comes out of common sense, culture, subconscious et cetera, you guys know the deal. Those changes could be for the worse, better, or even be dramatic but still "keep things as whole the way they already are"; I don't think we would be led to a drug post-apocalypse though, I really can't believe the majority of people using heavier drugs that render you near 100% inoperative (like crack). Point is we adapt, a quick search in wikipedia and you'll see that cocaine was at a given point sold to children, it was advertised like a sort of energetic to keep keep a-buzz at work. Hell, cigarets were meant to keep you younger and was a guarantee of prettier skin, alcohol was prohibited, the world takes some wild turns. Choose your presidents but remember: it's your companies that have all the leverage...

 

[Blood Brain Barrier]

I said "no", but that applies to the rules we have today. You see, if all drugs were legalized we would have an impact on the way society works, in terms of economics and industry most of all, so it's hard to say because, well, it would be another world, so different from today that I dare not choose at all...

For instance, let's mention one of the least (?) damaging dudes, marijuana. My father-in-law is a neurologist, I know not how to go into specifics the way he did, but once I mentioned how I saw no problem with legalizing marijuana, since common cigars are legal and so damn damaging. His answer was unexpected, though he agrees that it is hypocritical, he stated that there is an inherent damage that (abusive use of) marijuana causes and that many people ignore, it has to do with brain cells in a brain area and whatnot: ultimately, it won't kill you, but it will damage your speed for processing your thoughts for good... And that's when I strated thinking about the "funny and constantly anesthetized" manner of speaking of most of my heavily pot headed friends (not the guys who'd do it once in a while, the ones who'd eat it for breakfast if they could).

My point? If everyone exaggerates on a drug that "slows you down" like pot, we would have dramatic changes in many society levels, because, well society is nothing but a pact between the people that comprise it, a pact that comes out of common sense, culture, subconscious et cetera, you guys know the deal. Those changes could be for the worse, better, or even be dramatic but still "keep things as whole the way they already are"; I don't think we would be led to a drug post-apocalypse though, I really can't believe the majority of people using heavier drugs that render you near 100% inoperative (like crack). Point is we adapt, a quick search in wikipedia and you'll see that cocaine was at a given point sold to children, it was advertised like a sort of energetic to keep keep a-buzz at work. Hell, cigarets were meant to keep you younger and was a guarantee of prettier skin, alcohol was prohibited, the world takes some wild turns. Choose your presidents but remember: it's your companies that have all the leverage...

I am sceptical about your father in law's claims. I'm not a pot smoker but I don't think its illegality has much to do with neurology. No doubt, the dutch would have it banned in an instant if that were the case. Also the effect of the drug on what we commoners call "thought" is complicated. Neurology as a field of medical knowledge doesn't really communicate in terms of "thought" as far as I'm aware and if you've been to see one you'll know that if you start talking in those sort of general terms they'll put it into more specific pathological lingo. I think you're right that if it were to become part of a substantial part of the population's lifestyle, we would adjust without any major problems, like the Dutch.

 

[Feedmeketamine]

You can drink booze, get wasted, fuck prostitutes and start fights all night but as soon as someone has a spliff or something the whole military core collapses? Why do you eat this bullshit up?

The armed forces are full of people who love getting coked up, pilled up, whatever. Legality would make no difference whatsoever. When it comes to partying the armed forces are worse than students. Young males buzzed up to their tits on testosterone with a steady income and not much opportunity to spend it. Not exactly a recipe for a quiet night in.

I think destroying your life because some of your squadmates tried some speed might be a bit of an over reaction.

Spoken like a true chap talking about something he has barely any knowledge about... Congrats.

Yes... we have army squaddies (I am not army, nor am I a squaddie) who take drugs. And yes, we know how to party. The druggies invariably get caught out... mostly because they are oft coupled with heavy debt, their digs aren't up to standard, their work level decreases and they become disinterested with the service... then they get turfed out.

If we lost the ability to turf out the weak links then the entire services would lose its professional grounding.

When did they stop giving speed to soldiers, old boy?

 

[Soundwave]

My mom works as a school psychologist in the suburbs around my state's largest city, and despite all the horror stories she hears from her district (parents selling their children for crack), they don't even process them in the city because cases like that are so commonplace.

It's fine to talk about "responsible adults" and "what one does in the privacy of one's own home", but I highly doubt any good could come from legalizing anything beyond marijuana.

 

[ninjaRiv]

I'd be stoned ALL OF THE TIME. The only reason I'm not stoned all the time as it is, is because the dealers I know like to smoke it with you, rather than just hand it over and let it be done. I'd never do "hard" drugs, though. Cocaine, heroin, speed, E, etc... Not my thing. I smoke weed to relax, not because I want to party hard.

I wouldn't ACTUALLY be stoned all time time, of course. But I would smoke it more. I'd smoke it like the average person drinks alcohol (weekends, occasionally on week days) which is what I already do when I have some.

 

[zumbledum]

its surprising that 67% of people neither drink or smoke.

myself i wish we could swap mdma for alcohol as the "social" drug. what a better happier friendly world that would be

 

[DkLnBr]

No I wouldnt. I dont like the idea of losing control of my mind, and I dont want to get addicted to anything. That and Im a boring "wet-blanket" type person