That it´s stupid. I´ve got no problem with avoiding the other gender entirely, but to put it in there and make it worse... I mean what´s the point? It might as well not exist.
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Indeed I do, and I am of the belief that it's not needed in society, because it's very well covered from a socialistic political-view.
Edit, something I came to think of: What I said here is actually pretty wierd isn't it?
I mean, it's true that feminism is just one part of socialism.
But still, there are so many "feminists" that aren't feminists at all, they are fascists.
Actually quite comparable to neo-nazis.
Just a thought..
I was just wondering about seeing that same logic applied to a game, and how people would react to it.tokae said:
I'd say it's an unbalanced game made by some whiney feminist dumbass to prove that anyone with a vagina is an exclusive member of the master race.
also, a ton of guys would play as girls for a legitimate reason, so they'd get mixed in with the creepy guys who play as girls to get their jollies.
also, a ton of guys would play as girls for a legitimate reason, so they'd get mixed in with the creepy guys who play as girls to get their jollies.
If it was multiplayer, I would be surprised if it made it out the door. If it were the other way around, I would say the same thing.
If we are using it as a plot device, like the anime you suggested, then that's fine. We've seen that story. Men can't do something that women can. But then usually there is some kind of negating force to help the men keep it balanced.
If we are talking about hypotheticals, I would play as the woman until they nerfed women.
If we are using it as a plot device, like the anime you suggested, then that's fine. We've seen that story. Men can't do something that women can. But then usually there is some kind of negating force to help the men keep it balanced.
If we are talking about hypotheticals, I would play as the woman until they nerfed women.
It's unbalanced and possibly the pseudo social commentary of some pretentious douchebag of a designer.
Because some players might choose to play male anyway. There are those who pick th e hard option for the challenge, or pick the hard option not because its hard, but its because its what they want to be. They might want to ascribe themselves the persona of someone struggling against the odds an gender barriers.believer258 said:
Old.
It already exists in half a dozen anime and I just know the advertisements of the game would claim they were the first to the party.
That also is a poor example of how to do it in my eyes. Level rate doesn't really portray any difference in genders, if you are actually going to skew game balance I'd go with fire rate, reload times, and skill cool downs.
Then I say you should instead just exclude male characters entirely because skewed multiplayer game balance is a bad idea.
But if I step back and see this game coming out and deem it good enough looking to play then I'm happy with it because I usually only play female characters anyways.
Edit: Though apparently I'm the only one to not think it's bullshit, feminist, socially commentable.
There is all male character games everywhere, developers can make you play marble cheese if they so wish.
If this game is any of the above (excluding cheese) then Brink, Team Fortress Two, and Call of Duty are obviously conspiracy level male superiority hate generators that only exist to send the message that women are inferior.
This is NOT true, I don't see the opposite is true either.
It already exists in half a dozen anime and I just know the advertisements of the game would claim they were the first to the party.
That also is a poor example of how to do it in my eyes. Level rate doesn't really portray any difference in genders, if you are actually going to skew game balance I'd go with fire rate, reload times, and skill cool downs.
Then I say you should instead just exclude male characters entirely because skewed multiplayer game balance is a bad idea.
But if I step back and see this game coming out and deem it good enough looking to play then I'm happy with it because I usually only play female characters anyways.
Edit: Though apparently I'm the only one to not think it's bullshit, feminist, socially commentable.
There is all male character games everywhere, developers can make you play marble cheese if they so wish.
If this game is any of the above (excluding cheese) then Brink, Team Fortress Two, and Call of Duty are obviously conspiracy level male superiority hate generators that only exist to send the message that women are inferior.
This is NOT true, I don't see the opposite is true either.
The inherit unbalance would hurt it greatly as an action game, and the mechanic would put it squarely into the realm of...for lack of a better word, lets say Art game. It's a game that is making some kind of social statement that is bound to surpass the game play itself in noticeability. Would it be an effective game at communicating a worthwhile idea? Maybe. But frankly, I see no way it could rise above being a self-defeating double standard.
What if I think that men and women should be equal, but I don't think the government should run the economy into the ground?tokae said:
Pandering. And not even clever pandering.
I can think of one game only that has a difference in gender when you start out, but it's mostly cosmetic and unobtrusive, and that is Final Fantasy XI. (I know, SE doing something smart? I was shocked too) In FFXI, your baseline stats would have a minor variance based on gender. For instance, if you started as an Elvaan, females had a 1 agi bonus and 1 vit reduction from their male counterparts. In this fashion there is a difference in gender, but not one that makes either one substancially better at any task, but does differenciate them.
What I would like to see is a game do something like this, but not based on gender but build. Say for instance you take a game with a character creator like APB had, you make a light framed character of average height, you get a bonus to agility or something at the cost of strength. Then conversely you make them a muscle bound psycho and get the opposite bonuses.
I can think of one game only that has a difference in gender when you start out, but it's mostly cosmetic and unobtrusive, and that is Final Fantasy XI. (I know, SE doing something smart? I was shocked too) In FFXI, your baseline stats would have a minor variance based on gender. For instance, if you started as an Elvaan, females had a 1 agi bonus and 1 vit reduction from their male counterparts. In this fashion there is a difference in gender, but not one that makes either one substancially better at any task, but does differenciate them.
What I would like to see is a game do something like this, but not based on gender but build. Say for instance you take a game with a character creator like APB had, you make a light framed character of average height, you get a bonus to agility or something at the cost of strength. Then conversely you make them a muscle bound psycho and get the opposite bonuses.
You mean just like it is in real life? At least academically. But really, a rose by any other name is still sexist. Just like this idea. I identify witht the issues it's trying to fix, but you're forgetting that this kind of conflict is what gives life meaning. Inequalities, the way they're perceived and the way we interact with them are the driving force behind history. So don't go trying to fix what isn't permanently broken.
Well, look. The cheesecake thing could probably be valid. But this kind of logic would be problematic in a video game. Miss Arendt sai it all in the first post really. It's just unbalanced. You're proposing a multiplayer game, with gender options where the female enjoys power-gaming abilities inherently. This will lead toWindknight said:
a)Munchkins making women just for the power gaming potential.
b)People who enjoy playing as a female making one and enjoying the scale tipping in their favour
c)Pissing off everyone else.
The anime you mention are targeted at a very specific audience. Thy are also non-interactive and not competitive in nature. If this was a single player only game then it sounds like an interesting idea for a gameworld.
It certainly hasn't happened before, but feminists would shoot it down because it would imply that being a woman makes life easier or some other crap They always find something to complain about. And yes they would. You described it as being the bee's knees and everyone is playing it. Not to mention disgruntled manchildren who will feel like their masculinity is being mocked by a game like this. A woman being superior to a man? Preposterous. It would create controversy at least.
