Well, although I'm not a Christian, if Jesus did turn up (and was able to prove his identity/divinity), not only is his attitude towards people pretty top notch, it would also be a pretty compelling reason to convert. Sooo, yeah, I'd vote for him.
Poll: If Jesus ran for president, would you vote for him?
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Actually, yes. And I'm a liberal.
See the problem is that many people (especially Christians) don't understand a lot of Jesus's teachings.
Here are a list of Jesus's policies:
Jesus was in for the separation of Church and State - "Give unto Caesar that which is Caesar's. Give unto God what belongs to God."
Jesus was against Capitol Punishment - "Let you among you who is without sin cast the first stone."
Jesus was for social equality - Commonly stayed and dined with prositutes and tax collectors (who were basically at the bottom of the social ladder at the time).
Jesus was for gay rights - Bit more of a stretch here. Based mainly on the above, and his generally tolerant and accepting attitude.
I once heard it said that Karl Marx once said "I'm not a Marxist." Looking at contemporary Christianity, I believe that if Jesus were alive today, he would say, "I'm not a Christian."
See the problem is that many people (especially Christians) don't understand a lot of Jesus's teachings.
Here are a list of Jesus's policies:
Jesus was in for the separation of Church and State - "Give unto Caesar that which is Caesar's. Give unto God what belongs to God."
Jesus was against Capitol Punishment - "Let you among you who is without sin cast the first stone."
Jesus was for social equality - Commonly stayed and dined with prositutes and tax collectors (who were basically at the bottom of the social ladder at the time).
Jesus was for gay rights - Bit more of a stretch here. Based mainly on the above, and his generally tolerant and accepting attitude.
I once heard it said that Karl Marx once said "I'm not a Marxist." Looking at contemporary Christianity, I believe that if Jesus were alive today, he would say, "I'm not a Christian."
Your taking Christianity as a whole group. Your combing all the different forms together. You can't add Catholics to this list as the Catholics barely follow the bible anyway. For a start christening is not in the Bible. Baptism is which means fully emerged in water not being sprinkled over the head. Im a Christianity and we didn't screw the world over in the dark ages like the catholics did.bringer of illumination said:
Well yes, I'm from Sweden so I have a basic idea of what's it like. We are very secularized here is Sweden as well. But I really don't have anything against religon. As I see it religon is a highly personal matter it shouldn't matter to anyone what someone else believes, or don't believe, in. The problem is that in the United States for example, religon has taken a strong grip in politics. Forcing people who aren't christians to live be christian standards. This is of course an abomination. No one should ever be forced to live by a religon if they don't want to.bringer of illumination said:
That is why it suprised me that you where from Denmark, because I can't really see how you would have suffred at the hands of religon. An American I can understand because they basicly have religon forced down their throats, but you? Not so much I would guess. Am I right?
If this was Australian politics then Yes, that is exactly what would happen, and it would be hilarious because of how badly it would fail.Mr. Omega said:
As for whether I would vote for Jesus I would have to say no. I mean I didn't vote liberal in the 2010 election because he said a backwards sounding comment about virginity in a women's magazine in February (elections held in October).
So a politician (regardless of who they claimed to be) sold his campaign on the idea of abolishing the no fault divorce, necessitating all of family law to be rewritten, and women's rights probably being set back 100 years is not getting m vote.
It would be interesting to see whether Jesus actually won the election though.
Also this.emeraldrafael said:
i wouldn't vote for him
even considering his existance kind of proves that God exists
in Europe there tends to be a more secular government where although world leaders may be religious, it doesn't enter into the politics
therefore doesn't impose christian (or any other religion but i'm using christianity here) values on non-believers
and if Jesus was to get into power he would do one thing:
Make the country heavily christian (understandably seeing how he's the son of God and all)and i'd be forced to live in a country under the leadership of a party that stands for complete restriction of liberty and social prejudice.
The devil is the best option for the job
what's that you say? Jesus doesn't want to restrict people's liberty?
well let's look at the facts
let's ignore Jesus and leap straight to God. Seeing as Jesus and God aren't really father and son and more the same person.
God kills gays for their sexual orientation (look at the sodomites), God Wants you to bow down to him. God doesn't want you to think for yourself, God wants you to do what he says. HE will dictate what you can and can't do and HE will dictate your morality
Why does he sound like the GOOD guy?
The devil stands for having a really good fucking time. For sexual liberty. For complete freedom of action. Who was it that offered jesus something to eat in the wilderness? the devil. "Jesus, you're being a silly twat. just eat this sammich, you're not proving anything to anybody".
Sure at the end of it you are tortured for all eternity in the fires of hell
BUT why would the devil disagree with God's way of controlling humans and split off from him
and then punish people in the afterlife for sinning and doing what God had said not to?
Hell isn't a torture-fest, that's how PURE being's like God see hell. Hell is a sweet ass afterparty that last's for infinity. with drugs, sex and booze forever and ever.
OF COURSE that's hell for God. But heaven for all us non-believers
VOTE SATAN FOLKS
I'm sure someone will pick massive holes in this
and don't get me wrong, i'm not a devil worshipper either
for neither of these entities actualy exist
i was just having some thought provoking fun
so no harm done
even considering his existance kind of proves that God exists
in Europe there tends to be a more secular government where although world leaders may be religious, it doesn't enter into the politics
therefore doesn't impose christian (or any other religion but i'm using christianity here) values on non-believers
and if Jesus was to get into power he would do one thing:
Make the country heavily christian (understandably seeing how he's the son of God and all)and i'd be forced to live in a country under the leadership of a party that stands for complete restriction of liberty and social prejudice.
The devil is the best option for the job
what's that you say? Jesus doesn't want to restrict people's liberty?
well let's look at the facts
let's ignore Jesus and leap straight to God. Seeing as Jesus and God aren't really father and son and more the same person.
God kills gays for their sexual orientation (look at the sodomites), God Wants you to bow down to him. God doesn't want you to think for yourself, God wants you to do what he says. HE will dictate what you can and can't do and HE will dictate your morality
Why does he sound like the GOOD guy?
The devil stands for having a really good fucking time. For sexual liberty. For complete freedom of action. Who was it that offered jesus something to eat in the wilderness? the devil. "Jesus, you're being a silly twat. just eat this sammich, you're not proving anything to anybody".
Sure at the end of it you are tortured for all eternity in the fires of hell
BUT why would the devil disagree with God's way of controlling humans and split off from him
and then punish people in the afterlife for sinning and doing what God had said not to?
Hell isn't a torture-fest, that's how PURE being's like God see hell. Hell is a sweet ass afterparty that last's for infinity. with drugs, sex and booze forever and ever.
OF COURSE that's hell for God. But heaven for all us non-believers
VOTE SATAN FOLKS
I'm sure someone will pick massive holes in this
and don't get me wrong, i'm not a devil worshipper either
for neither of these entities actualy exist
i was just having some thought provoking fun
so no harm done
No, I would not vote to put an illiterate carpenter into office just because he was the Son of God. First, the dude is an illiterate carpenter who in his previous life solved precisely zero problems and was widely reviled by his contemporaries. Second, when the guy is used to invoking the almighty power of divine intervention to resolve problems, I expect his ability to resolve problems with more practical methods are slim at best. Finally, he is either the son of god, a remarkably successful charlatan, or a nutcase. I would expect the offspring of a deity has enough power without giving him a veto and a bully pulpit. If he were a charlatan, his political ability would be too great to contain in any office. And were he insane. . . well I suppose that is probably the most acceptable of the three given the number of presidents that have been god damn lunatics.
Plus, Jesus was almost certainly a socialist. Strangely, no red-blooded American (pronounced as ah-mur-a-khen) patriot would vote for a socialist; they instead choose to venerate one as a deity.
Plus, Jesus was almost certainly a socialist. Strangely, no red-blooded American (pronounced as ah-mur-a-khen) patriot would vote for a socialist; they instead choose to venerate one as a deity.
no
jesus was a carpenter, voting for him is basically saying: fuck what people achieve by themselves lets just vote for people with influential parents.
god on the other hand i would vote for. if he does exist he most likely had to beat all the other gods before him, meaning he killed the whole Egyptian Greek/roman pantheon(and my others). He possibly even defeated Kratos. now that a guy who gets my vote, he is awesome at being a god.
jesus was a carpenter, voting for him is basically saying: fuck what people achieve by themselves lets just vote for people with influential parents.
god on the other hand i would vote for. if he does exist he most likely had to beat all the other gods before him, meaning he killed the whole Egyptian Greek/roman pantheon(and my others). He possibly even defeated Kratos. now that a guy who gets my vote, he is awesome at being a god.
I really don't like answers like this. You can argue about interpretations and specific wording all day but in the end if the bible teaches that gay acts are bad then it obviously is of the opinion that gay people are bad. This is like saying "Oh no, doesn't think people who murder other people are bad it simply does not like the act of murder"... Stop relying on deception and face the facts that if you are going to name yourself catholic you must believe in the whole religion you can not pick and choose. Which is my personal reason why I am not.Mad World said:
PS: When I say you I mean generally not the person I quoted specifically you were just an example.
OT: I would never vote for someone based purely on religious beliefs I think many people have mentioned before the importance of keeping religion and law seperate which I agree 100% and forms the basis of my reasoning here.
Since His Dad's ethos is "worship me or go to Hell", I think that's a bit too right wing for me to vote for Him.
