jesus is not a US citizen. also, i'm pretty sure the masses would revolt at the idea of a jewish president-we like our WASPs in this country. >.<
Well that is so much better.Mad World said:Also, the Bible doesn't teach that gays are bad; it teaches that gay acts are bad.
Thats actually happened. IN some places in the US you have to pay for fire department services, and if you dont pay, the fire department will legally show up, but watch your place burn to the ground. They'll only fight the fire if it extends to other properties that are covered (i.e. if your neighbor has paid, and the flames spread to them, the fire department will put out your nieghbor's house, but leave yours to burn). You also cant pay them on the spot either, cause then that would leave everyone to just wait and lose tax revenue.BRex21 said:How many people out their live their lives relying on socialist systems, republican voters would probably be outraged if they found out the fire department wouldn't come for them because they were too poor
How do you figure that? Jesus is all about forgiveness, and in fact died for everyone, among two other horrible sinners in the crucifixion. Because he was to forgive us for our original sin. Besides, it depends what kinda Christian you ask. Some believe that you cant get into heaven and either you rot in hell, skulk around purgatory, or go to heaven. Other believe no one goes straight to Heaven and instead must muck around in Purgatory until they are worthy to enter heaven. Thus you could theoretically say that you could be stuck in purgatory forever, neither in Heaven or hell. Still there are others that believe you either just go to Heaven or just go to Hell.Thespian said:Well that is so much better.Mad World said:Also, the Bible doesn't teach that gays are bad; it teaches that gay acts are bad.
When you consider the bible was written some 300 years after Jesus' death and that I'm sure but this point his apostles were also dead (then again, noah supposedly lived to be like, 400, but I Think they werent using the same calender we use today), and that it was written by the travelling St. Jerome who at the end of the Roman Empire, I'm sure there was a lot of second hand interpretation by men high of their rocks.
Jesus is a perfectionist. Those who do not meet his idea of what is perfect, are unworthy of Heaven and Paradise.
They were incredibly smart. I just don't get why if they thought capitalism was the best thing for America, why every other politician wants to introduce progressive and socialistic policies. (I'm not taking a stab at the Founding Fathers. I'm taking one at liberals and populists.)otakuoverlord said:This country has separation of church and state EXACTLY for this reason, and none other. Our founding fathers were smart as hell and clairvoyant, seeing this eventuality long ago.
Wrong testament. Completely different person. Jesus came around and flaunted the laws quite a bit, preferring to actually get to know the sinners themselves. The Law of Moses also says that it's an aberration to cook a goat in its mother's milk, it was all laws that God doesn't seem particularly interested in filling after the exile of the Israelites.ZombieGenesis said:Someone in the bible said 'if a man lays with a man both shall be put to death' ... pretty sure it was that Jesus guy. May have been someone else, but same book.lacktheknack said:Yes.
By the way, Jesus never said gays are bad. Ever. Once. And he often implied that he has an opposite view on them.
Nothing. However they tended to be incredibly shady characters who intimidated and stole money. Think of them as the gang members of the time.Zhukov said:Wait... shepherds are sinful? What's so bad about watching a herd of sheep?lacktheknack said:Various actions such as spending much of his time in each city encouraging and offering hope to prostitutes, shepherds, and other "people of sin".
Then please explain this.bringer of illumination said:Matthew 5:17-20 (New King James Version)lacktheknack said:Yes.
By the way, Jesus never said gays are bad. Ever. Once. And he often implied that he has an opposite view on them.
17 "Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill. 18 For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled. 19 Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I say to you, that unless your righteousness exceeds the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven."
This is Jesus speaking during the sermon on the mount, less than one page before the "Love thy neighbour as yourself" bit. If you use that then you cannot ignore this.
And guess what?
The Law says that gays are to be stoned, and that they are an abomination.
And before you try to pull a fast one on me; The Hebrew name for the 5 books of Moses, where all those funny laws about stoning children and homosexuals are found, is Torah, or translated THE LAW.
People who believe that the bible is not completely incompatible with homosexuality are deceiving themselves.
And no this is not out of context, this bit is entirely by it self.
Voting no for two reasons.triggrhappy94 said:This is a poll I've been curious about; knowing that a good amount of the American population that'll vote for someone because of their religion or how often they say god bless America.
So, Jesus Christ returns and runs for president.
If you need to know anymore, his stances are based on biblical teachings. Love thy neighbor (ie Mexico), gays are bad, etc.