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GloatingSwine

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If Ant-Man is a stinker they'll just drop Ant-Man and quietly pretend it didn't happen.

Which, since it sounds like they're killing off Janet Van Dyne in backstory is no loss to anyone, because Ant-Man can fuck off if we don't get Wasp. Y'know, she was only one of the founding members of the Avengers, no biggie, right?
 

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The Thor movies are both an embarrassing mess and people don't seem to mind. I can't see Ant-Man doing as poorly as those at all. I don't mind them having those movies, as they must have some appeal (why make a sequel otherwise?) No reason to cut out one series when they have so many that are doing so well.
 

TristanBelmont

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While I'm not too interested in Ant-Man, I do think that poster looks better than pretty much any trailer for any DC movie ever.
 

WarpedLord

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The thing is... even BAD movies have people who enjoy them. I'm sure if you look hard enough, you'd find people who LOVE Green Lantern. Hell... the success of the Twilight films is about as much solid proof of this as anyone could want.

Isn't that the whole point of Movie Defense Force? :)
 

Zontar

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WarpedLord said:
The thing is... even BAD movies have people who enjoy them. I'm sure if you look hard enough, you'd find people who LOVE Green Lantern. Hell... the success of the Twilight films is about as much solid proof of this as anyone could want.

Isn't that the whole point of Movie Defense Force? :)
Movie Defense Force started off as Jim defending movies with a bad rap by pointing out redeeming features.

But now it's more "Jim has shit taste" in series format (can't wait for the day where him and Bob smack down over who's right about Amazing Spider Man)
 

KazeAizen

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Marter said:
Spider-Man 3 was better than The Incredible Hulk...

They'd release it, it'd get poor reviews and make a good amount of money. What impact would it have on their future, though?

They'd be fine. Their batting record is pretty high right now (.800 average) which is better than any other studio that has more than 5 movies out (I'm guessing). One huge dud would be easily survivable.

They might take a long hiatus from that aspect of the franchise. When's the second solo Hulk movie coming out? If The Incredible Hulk was good, we'd be asking when the third one is coming out. But since it sucked, they decided to, at least temporarily, stop making solo Hulk outings. If Ant-Man isn't any good, you can bet that character isn't getting a sequel anytime soon.
Except Incredible Hulk didn't suck cause if it did we wouldn't be having this particular thread or discussion right now.
 

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themyrmidon said:
Okay... I kinda like that poster, to be honest...

Anyway, I kinda feel like Marvel would just work around with it either way... I mean, unless it's turns into more than just one major dud in the MCU akin to SM3 or GL, the MCU train ain't going to stop at Failure Station...

Huh... I think I just realized I have more faith in Marvel than I thought I did...
 

KazeAizen

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Zeconte said:
KazeAizen said:
Marter said:
Spider-Man 3 was better than The Incredible Hulk...

They'd release it, it'd get poor reviews and make a good amount of money. What impact would it have on their future, though?

They'd be fine. Their batting record is pretty high right now (.800 average) which is better than any other studio that has more than 5 movies out (I'm guessing). One huge dud would be easily survivable.

They might take a long hiatus from that aspect of the franchise. When's the second solo Hulk movie coming out? If The Incredible Hulk was good, we'd be asking when the third one is coming out. But since it sucked, they decided to, at least temporarily, stop making solo Hulk outings. If Ant-Man isn't any good, you can bet that character isn't getting a sequel anytime soon.
Except Incredible Hulk didn't suck cause if it did we wouldn't be having this particular thread or discussion right now.
Yeah, I have to say, I rather enjoyed Edward Norton as Hulk, and was rather disappointed that they couldn't work out having him in the Avengers, because the guy who replaced him was terribly forgettable and doesn't even deserve his own movie.

Also, they picked incredibly wrong when it came to Topher Grace as Venom in Spider-Man 3. Either way, just once, I'd like a Spider-Man franchise to last long enough to put Carnage on the big screen. Maybe with a reboot, they could even get William Defoe for the role. He'd make an amazing Cletus Kasady.
He is the Green Goblin for life for me. I'm sure he would be a good Cletus Kasady but Defoe is the definitive live action Goblin for me.

Mark though as the Hulk I'm on the opposite side. I liked Edward but Mark I think is the better one and he actually seems to be enthusiastic about having another solo Hulk film. The Hulk himself deserves a second solo movie period though.
 

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I agree, he was, which was why casting him also as Carnage would have been out of the question, but I think he would be the definitive live action Carnage as well, and having rebooted the series, there's actually a chance that he could be the definitive actor in both roles. Of course, I never actually expect to see Carnage on the big screen as people seem to just stop at 3 movies and then reboot these days, and you don't really have time to set everything necessary up to introduce Carnage within the span of 3 movies, but one can dream.
I'm sorry but this new movie verse can burn. I'm sort of in Bob's camp. When I saw the first one I thought it was ok at best. Then though I rewatched it and it was not pretty. I didn't even bother with the second especially since people more or less savaged the dang thing. This movie universe is dead to me for Spider-man.

I'm not really sure how you can say Mark was the better Hulk, given the inadequate role the Hulk was given in Avengers, and from my understanding, that was Norton's complaint about it and why they ultimately couldn't work out a deal with him reprising the role. From everything I read about the issue, Norton was very enthusiastic about playing the Hulk, but also has very high standards for the roles he plays, and just wasn't willing to work with the script as given without wanting to improve Banner's role in the movie, and the studio simply didn't have the time nor desire to work with him on doing that, and so gave the role to Mark, who, in comparison, just seemed kind of an awkward, uncomfortable stand-in for Norton throughout the movie. About the only thing that stood out to me about him and his performance in Avengers was kind of an awkward, shit-eating grin he had going on. Otherwise, he seemed to have the smallest, least significant part in the movie, even compared to Hawkeye and Black Widow, and if I were Norton, I probably would have felt insulted by that as well. I can only imagine how much better the movie would have turned out had the studio actually been willing to work with Norton on his issues with the Hulk's role in the movie.
Contract shenanigans always happen it appears. I knew there was some kind of issue though I didn't know all the minute details. While it was kind of sad I also can't really fault the studio entirely. I mean at the time no one even knew if the damn thing was actually going to work and the fact that while the new Hulk movie was good it wasn't exactly Iron Man or Captain America in terms of returns and quality. Now though that Guardians has proven they are basically invincible we will see what new stuff lies around the corner. I mean they filed a trademark for Squirrel Girl for pete's sake.
 

DeimosMasque

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The discussion of what Marvel should do if a "bad" movie was going to come out would be an interesting one to have, in theory. But in reality no one goes out to make a bad movie, yeah some actors will phone in a performance or aren't very good, directors can be blinded by their own hubris, executive producers can meddle, but no one is trying to be bad. And few people think they have made a bad movie.

ANd I was ready to discuss this a whole lot more until I saw the initial post was basically about "Yeah Ant Man isn't a movie I'm interested in thus I know it already sucks"
 

spartan231490

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Marvel is not going to lose brand loyalty over one movie. Also, if they realized in the middle, they'd probably just push back release and fix it.
 

SonOfVoorhees

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Ironman 2 and 3 were fairly bad and made a fortune. But i doubt Marvel will make a movie thats so shit it would be unwatchable. They seem to take time with hiring the right talent for each movie. Where as DC seem focused on just one director doing everything. Either way, a bad movie wont stop Marvel - they are making a ton of cash so can take the hit.
 

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[quote="themyrmidon" post="18.857097.21235786"

Once again, I'm not talking about another movie on par with Hulk, I'm talking a Green Lantern or Spider Man 3 level dud, one that could potentially stop a franchise in its tracks.[/quote]

We're seriously putting Spider-Man 3, which was the top grossing of the Raimi flicks on par with Green Lantern?

Hell, if Ant-Man sucked and could do that kind of bank, I'd be fine with them releasing it. People are obviously that hyped to see Hank Pym or...something. I don't know.

Otherwise? Ehhhh....I don't really care. Ant Man isn't a movie I'll bother with, and I won't lose any sleep if it's canceled, but one bad movie shouldn't make a difference one way or another. Assuming it is bad. I don't know if it is, I just don't give a crap about Hank the wifebeater.