Poll: If you ever have a son, will you have him circumcised?
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I am Jewish and would strongly consider it. To all those who keep saying that they would let their kid decide I think you place an undue burden on the child. If you wait until they have the mental faculties to even have an opinion then they will be at an age where they will remember the pain and probably need to be sedated in order to complete the procedure.
Performing the procedure on an infant (usually done within 7 days) means that the trauma will be forgotten due to the way our memory works at that age. For those who compare this to female circumcision please note that the similarity extends only to the fact that a knife is used. Circumcision removes a small flap of skin and does so when the child will not remember the incident. Female circumcision removes a cluster of nerve endings at an age when there is guaranteed to be memory and psychiatric damage done by the act. Additionally female circumcision prevents the girl from feeling pleasure as a way to prevent her from straying from her husband. This is a barbaric idea that stems from the notion that all women are whores. Male circumcision is a celebrated rite that does no lasting harm to the individual.
I know my logic will upset people but its just my belief that the two are vastly different.
Performing the procedure on an infant (usually done within 7 days) means that the trauma will be forgotten due to the way our memory works at that age. For those who compare this to female circumcision please note that the similarity extends only to the fact that a knife is used. Circumcision removes a small flap of skin and does so when the child will not remember the incident. Female circumcision removes a cluster of nerve endings at an age when there is guaranteed to be memory and psychiatric damage done by the act. Additionally female circumcision prevents the girl from feeling pleasure as a way to prevent her from straying from her husband. This is a barbaric idea that stems from the notion that all women are whores. Male circumcision is a celebrated rite that does no lasting harm to the individual.
I know my logic will upset people but its just my belief that the two are vastly different.
One of my older brother had serious health problems because he wasn't circumcised and had to have it done when he was like 8.
I'd rather just avoid that. It's a vestigial flap of skin it's not like you're cutting an inch off or something. Then again I also believe in cropping certain dog breed's ears to help reduce the likelyhood of infection and docking tails.
Maybe it's because I was raised on a ranch?
I guess I'm a barbarian.
I'd rather just avoid that. It's a vestigial flap of skin it's not like you're cutting an inch off or something. Then again I also believe in cropping certain dog breed's ears to help reduce the likelyhood of infection and docking tails.
Maybe it's because I was raised on a ranch?
I guess I'm a barbarian.
I probably would, but it wouldn't be for religious regions, it'd be for social reasons. Circumcision is very popular here in the states, and I wouldn't want him to feel like an outcast. Of course, I'd probably have to discuss this with the mother first and factor her opinion in.
People on this site characterize circumcision as one the mose foul things on this earth, but it's not that big of a deal. I was circumcised when I was a baby, and I don't give a damn. I still experience sexual pleasure, and I have no trouble masturbating. My glans is probably a lot less sensitive, but I don't really mind, it's not like I have anything to compare it to.
People on this site characterize circumcision as one the mose foul things on this earth, but it's not that big of a deal. I was circumcised when I was a baby, and I don't give a damn. I still experience sexual pleasure, and I have no trouble masturbating. My glans is probably a lot less sensitive, but I don't really mind, it's not like I have anything to compare it to.
No, absolutely not.
Because it is absolutely silly to cut parts off from someone else's body without their consent. And no, there aren't any significant health benefits to the procedure. It's funny how only only Americans, as citizens of practically the only country in the western world where this procedure is excercised for non-religious reasons are the only people I've ever met who seems to think there are health benefits to it.
In the rest of the western world, the only people who do this are the Jewish; and even they are probably not coming up with some bullshit about how you'll get an infection if you don't. They accept that they do it because their god supposedly told them to after flooding and killing every person on earth.
If someone kills the entire population of earth save for you and then tells you to cut bits of your children's genitals, you do what he says. However, if someone tells you that your kids'll get an infection if you don't, you look into that shit and discover that they're spouting nonsense.
I've never heard of anyone getting an infection in their foreskin. Ever.
Even if it was the case, the teeny tiny lessening of risk of getting an infection is not enough to justify cutting bits off of a child's body.
Because it is absolutely silly to cut parts off from someone else's body without their consent. And no, there aren't any significant health benefits to the procedure. It's funny how only only Americans, as citizens of practically the only country in the western world where this procedure is excercised for non-religious reasons are the only people I've ever met who seems to think there are health benefits to it.
In the rest of the western world, the only people who do this are the Jewish; and even they are probably not coming up with some bullshit about how you'll get an infection if you don't. They accept that they do it because their god supposedly told them to after flooding and killing every person on earth.
If someone kills the entire population of earth save for you and then tells you to cut bits of your children's genitals, you do what he says. However, if someone tells you that your kids'll get an infection if you don't, you look into that shit and discover that they're spouting nonsense.
I've never heard of anyone getting an infection in their foreskin. Ever.
Even if it was the case, the teeny tiny lessening of risk of getting an infection is not enough to justify cutting bits off of a child's body.
It's weird, you know!
Because we don't know what we're missing. The only people who know the difference in sensation between uncircumcised/circumcised penises are adults who got the procedure later in life. The idea that I don't have enough sensation down there seems a little silly, but if that's what the science says then I'll accept it.
In America, circumcision seems to be the norm, but I probably wouldn't get it for my child. I just hope he wouldn't be picked on too mercilessly. I vaguely recall some uncircumcised kid being called kid being called dog-dick in school. A lot of people don't see the "aesthetics" argument as valid, but I can't understand where they are coming from. If it's the norm and you know women generally find it to be a turn off, then you are basically setting up your son up for pain when he eventually decides to get the procedure done. Of course, on the other hand, he may not care what others think of his penis and may never want it done. It's a hard decision really.
Because we don't know what we're missing. The only people who know the difference in sensation between uncircumcised/circumcised penises are adults who got the procedure later in life. The idea that I don't have enough sensation down there seems a little silly, but if that's what the science says then I'll accept it.
In America, circumcision seems to be the norm, but I probably wouldn't get it for my child. I just hope he wouldn't be picked on too mercilessly. I vaguely recall some uncircumcised kid being called kid being called dog-dick in school. A lot of people don't see the "aesthetics" argument as valid, but I can't understand where they are coming from. If it's the norm and you know women generally find it to be a turn off, then you are basically setting up your son up for pain when he eventually decides to get the procedure done. Of course, on the other hand, he may not care what others think of his penis and may never want it done. It's a hard decision really.
haha, I totally mis-typed there. Mixed the circumcised and uncircumcised. But yeah, it bears mentioning that a "studded" condom mimics the effect of an uncircumcised penis.Ultratwinkie said:
Okay; the US used circumcision as a way to discourage masturbation, backing it up using God's wrath fear-mongering, (as you pointed out, the 'god's-perfect-design' aspect of Christianity surely makes circumcision much more of a sin than masturbation). Thanks; I didn't think the US were still so religious. Isn't the government & Health Care System secular?Ultratwinkie said:
I like the sound of that; circumcision sounds so barbaric I almost can't believe it still happens.Ultratwinkie said: