Poll: If you were given the game as a gift, You're a second class Star Citizen

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AzagalTheBroken

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For anyone interested in Star Citizen, this is information you need to know.

Star Citizen is still in development, and will be until well into 2015. For those who buy the game before this release, they are promised in-game rewards based on stretch goals. However, these rewards are denied to anyone who gets the game as a gift, and Cloud Imperium Games will not inform you of this until it's already to late to do anything about it.



The issue is with the Backer Reward System. In order to be considered a backer while the game is in development, and get the rewards listed under the stretch goals, you have to buy something with your account directly. If you got your account or ship as a gift, you don?t count as a backer, and you don?t get any of the backer rewards until you do buy something. I think there are quite a few citizens out there who made their accounts based on gifts and don't realize they aren't considered backers.

Now, there was no way to know about this when gift accounts are bought. Cloud Imperium Games does not put this stipulation on the purchase page at all. The only place you can see this ?rule? at all is buried deep in the FAQs, a place you would not usually look unless you already have an issue with their system.


You can become eligible for rewards if you buy something using your account, but even then, you only get backer rewards from the date that you spent money, not from the date that you activated your already bought-and-paid-for account.
So if you got your account as a gift, but decided to wait a few months before buying a ship upgrade or a skin, then you are denied any in-game rewards that were promised to backers after you activated your account. The citizens who receive gifted packages have the same access to the community, and many voted on stretch goals and have been part of the Star Citizen journey for all this time, but they are not given the same in-game status unless they bought their own account. This is wrong.


In this case, think of all the gift accounts out there, given for Christmas, birthdays, etc. Accounts given from parents to children, friend to friend, and spouse to spouse. I'm willing to bet that the vast majority of them are not aware that they are not being given the same privileges that everyone else is getting, even though their accounts cost just as much.

Something tells me if word of this gets out, Cloud Imperium Games will be forced to change it to avoid the huge losses in gift package sales.




TLDR Version: If you get the game as a gift, you're going to be treated as a second class Star Citizen. If you buy the game to gift for someone else before the end of the beta, you are cheating them out of getting any backer rewards unless they use their own money to upgrade the account.

Here are the main points being echoed by disappointed players through several forums.

- The gift givers are inadvertently preventing friends and family from receiving backer rewards.
- There are no extra benefits to those who give gifts when another account is created.
- This information is not clear and apparent on the store page.
- This information is not presented when a citizen receives a gift.
- The citizens who receive gifted packages still contributed money to the campaign, though indirectly, it was still bought by another citizen to gift to them. Were it not for those birthday, charity, celebratory event, or Christmas presents, the money would not have been pledged.
- The citizens who receive gifted packages are in a catch-22 situation, where they usually only find out about their problem after it's too late.
 

Shpongled

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tl;dr of the tl;dr

To get the backer rewards, you have to back the game.

Who'da thunk it?

I suspect it's just a little quirk of the way the system is set up rather than a conscious choice on the part of the developers, but either way, just because you had a birthday during a particular time of the year and someone bought the game for you as a gift, doesn't really make you a backer. The person who bought the game is the backer. The person who gave the developers the money is the backer.
 

Adam Jensen_v1legacy

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I don't see how people could possibly be confused by this. If you didn't back the game, you don't get backer rewards. It's pretty straightforward.
 

TheIceQueen

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Makes sense that if you didn't fund the game while in beta, you don't get rewards for funding the game while in the beta.
 

MetalShadowChaos

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I guess if the digital stuff is given in-game via distributed codes you can easily just give all the backer rewards as a single gift, but I hardly think it's unfair that the people which didn't back the game do not get treated as if they backed the game.
 

infohippie

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Didn't you just post the same argument on the Star Citizen forum? Thank you for backing the game and helping get the Best Damn Space Sim made, but you must realise the conditions are not hard to find, and it's fair enough that someone who didn't back the game doesn't get the rewards for doing so.
Don't you think it's a bit rude to come on another forum and badmouth CIG just because you didn't research it?
 

sanquin

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Sounds like a case of someone being ignorant of what 'backing a game and being rewarded for that specifically' means, then going on forums to complain. And when his opinion wasn't echoed, came to this forum to make the same threat in the hope that others would agree with him this time.

Firstly, if this is true it's a little sad, imo. Secondly, people should welcome differing opinions. If everyone just echoed each other this would be a boring world.
 

happyninja42

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Hrm.. it does seem kind of unfair. I understand what the few people above me are saying about not getting the rewards as you yourself are not a backer, but I feel it is a valid argument to say that you've been given the gift of being a backer. If the original backer has no use for the gift (i.e. has no intention of playing the game), someone should be getting it (I've no idea if it is possible to gift the game if you are not already a backer).

Comparable situation. I sponsor a horse at a horse rescue sanctuary on behalf of my niece (well, I did - it's now an ex-horse). I bought that for her as a gift; does this mean she is not eligible for any special deals associated with the sponsorship of the horse, since it's actually me who paid for it? I, for one, have no use for a plate with a picture of a horse on it (but she might). It isn't an ideal comparison I realise, as you can't get early access to a horse (though you can back one!).
Hmm, if the gifting system is for someone to gift the account, and they don't get any benefit themselves, then I agree with your statement. If I'm backing Star Citizen for a friend who I know will love the game, and then gift him the account, with no intention of playing the game myself, fully passing the package on to him then yeah, I think the backer's benefits should transfer to whomever I gift the account to. Why should the devs care? They're still getting one backer for one account, we're not duplicating it or anything.


Now, if it's a case where I get an account, and an account that I can gift to another (the Invite a Buddy thing), then no, I don't think the gifted account should get anything. In that situation I am using an account as a backer, and gifting another to someone else. And that other account didn't back the project. So no, I have no issue with that.
 

x EvilErmine x

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I think it's bullshit, from what I understand, to gift the game you have to first back the game for the account you wish to gift (thus giving the game devs money) so just how is it not backing the game if you get it as a gift? Money has still been paid, who cares who it's from.
 

Smooth Operator

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Sounds like complete horseshit, I wouldn't say if this was some low entry or even free friend code. But we are talking a gift code for the same amount of money not getting you the same deal and the buyers not even being informed, this shit I would only expect from EA.

I know people want to have their precious "first" status, but selling bullshit is still selling bullshit.
 

Rayce Archer

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It's a moot point. I'm pretty sure Star Citizen is just a scam and no game will ever appear. I'm pretty sure this is also the case with Mighty Number 9.
 

Shadow-Phoenix

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I remember being gifted PA and it came with the soundtrack, this just sounds like a total crock of shit, I've bought gift copies with all DLC included before to people and they got the whole thing, gitfting someone this and not getting what the gifter gives just sounds retarded.

But hey I'm going to throw out a guess that those defending this will turn around to some other game and call it foul, I'll be waiting for that moment.
 

Andy Shandy

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Wait, so is it that somebody is getting a backer account AND then there's a gift account or is it someone's backing the game and gifting that backer account to someone else?

Because if it's the former, then the Star Citizen people are perfectly correct to not give backer rewards to someone who didn't back the game. If it's the latter, the Star Citizen people are being rather shitty.
 

Flammablezeus

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The person who backed the game got their reward. You were just lucky that as part of that reward, you were given a free key for the finished game. So no, you don't deserve a reward just because your friend was kind enough to share a part of their reward with you.
 

AzagalTheBroken

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Flammablezeus said:
The person who backed the game got their reward. You were just lucky that as part of that reward, you were given a free key for the finished game. So no, you don't deserve a reward just because your friend was kind enough to share a part of their reward with you.
See, this is where you have it wrong.

1. I paid $45 for an account.

2. I then paid an additional $45 for the gift account, and gave it to a friend.

The first account gets the backer rewards, the second does not.

It is not a "free" account at any means, in fact, it's identical in every way, except one is given a backer status, and the other has no status. That is the only difference between them, and I feel this is wrong of CIG.