Poll: Illegal Imigration

[Tselis]

Being American I can't comment on other countries. As for my opinion for my own country, I think we should end all oversees military deployments (with the exception of those stipulated by treaty). I think we should use the troops to secure our borders, and then put more funding into reforming the path to citizenship. I don't mind people immigrating, so long as they do it legally. As for anchor babies, let the babies stay, absolutely, they are legal citizens. Deport their parents the day after the birth and adopt the kid out. There are many people who would adopt these kids. It might sound cruel, but if these people are going to bring a new person into the world for the sole purpose of illegally entering a country, then fuck'em. They don't deserve the rights they are after if they aren't willing to pursue them properly. Honestly, the kids will probably grow up in better homes in foster care or adopted homes then the homes of the people who would use them so cruelly.

 

[Eisenfaust]

in australia we have a massive illegal immigration problem... naturally, being an island, everyone comes here on rickety old boats, and are thus dubbed "boat people" which seems... insensitive? i'm not sure

nevertheless, as far as i know every single boat is intercepted (it's harder to land in a boat than just sneak across a border), and every immigrant is automatically remanded to mandatory detention to allow for processing (are they actually asylum seekers or are they terrorists in disguise). naturally, with the huge amount of "boat people" coming in every month, and the war-torn/bureaucratically disasterous state of many of the nations they are fleeing from, processing them takes time.

the opinions are (generally, holisitically) split into:
- keep them in detention for as long as is necessary (the current system)
- release them all! it's bad for them, who cares if they're terrorists!

now, admittedly, i am of the former opinion. it may seem harsh, but the facilities are nice (supposedly), asylum claims are processed as fast as possible, and the genuine asylum seekers can be released and allowed to do whatever it is they want. this is probably a good thing, even from the perspective of the asylum seekers... if suddenly we free all those in mandatory detention, and even one turns out to be a terrorist/affiliated with a terrorist in any way, the link to "boat people" and "terrorism" will be cemented in the media, and all previous "boat people" will be rounded up and shipped off, screwing the very large majority of them who are in no way affiliated with terrorism

and yet, those interred in these facilities still protest. hunger strikes, arson, riots, self-harm, clambering up on the roof with signs and not coming down for days on end... this is what annoys me. granted, in cases where there are legitimate concerns, fine, protest and we'll fix it. but the "my claim is taking too long! incidentally, the fact that this facility is much nicer that the country i am fleeing from, as evidenced by the fact that it's taken you this long to go through our government for our information, should be completely ignored!" stuff? no. just... no. one step too far. you're subject to the same rules and processes everyone is, for the greater good of the entire country including you and your fellow asylum seekers. you don't show up at someone's house for dinner unannounced, then protest because the meal is taking too long to be cooked...

 

[dystopiaINC]

my god, so much stupid >_<
fun fact for the people in this thread, if you work you pay taxes either through payroll tax or sales tax. the only way to avoid pay roll tax is to get paid in cash under the table which is only even remotely viable with some seasonal farming jobs, everywhere else illegals are counted as employes of the company (since anything else makes it very likely for the company to get shut down for fraud)
another fun fact, most illegals can't get welfare since you need a valid SSN.

thats were the anchor babies come into play, they are legal citizens and can get welfare

yeah what about the hundred of illegals you could find at a home depot down south you hire them fore a day to build fence pay then a hundred bucks, do they pay taxes on that? nope.