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SpectacularWebHead

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Fieldy409 said:
Did the op edit that last bit in about not pirating or are people just reading the first part and immediately commenting on piracy?
People are just commenting on the mention of pirating. You sir are my new favourite person, because you have a decent attention span.
 

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emeraldrafael said:
I... Im still trying to figure out how you illegally downloaded his songs but you dont find that pirating. I menan you can argue the definition and semantics of it but wouldnt BUYING a song help him more than illegally downloading it?

Anyway, he's most likely in the independent category of music, its all bout fame, and he he needs a more mainstream promotion. Remember, every big band started as just another small guy who should get his break because "everyone else int he market is sounding the same."

and while its not realy any of my business, i do think its prety short sighted to say other artists are just making the same song 24 times and calling it an album and that if you dont listen to him you dont have a good enough taste in music. whiel I enjoy his songs, i have friends who dont, and I dont tell them they have poor taste.

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KarlMonster said:
... That was always a tall order, for any artist - except for Michael Jackson.
Michael Jackson was with record labels pretty much literally since he got into the business and became mainstraeam. He was always promoted by someone else and was just one of the few child stars that actually stayed big after he got big and lost the cute aspect.
READ THE FULL OP.
Seriously, how short are your collective attention spans? I've now highlighted it, fyi, twice, because APPARENTLY NO ONE CAN READ.
 

Legion

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Being in the charts has nothing to do with musical talent or subject matter. It's all about who you know, and getting your music heard by everybody you can.

This song is the UK's current No 1.

Does it have deep, meaningful or interesting lyrics? No.
Does it have well made, technically impressive background music? No.
Has it been played on every single radio station for weeks before it was released to get it into the public conscience? Yes.

Snowbell said:
So, if you want the Miracle of Sound etc to reach the charts they'll have to make their music available via, say, itunes, and then enough people will have to download them in, say, a week to get them into the charts.
This is also true, availability to the masses is important.
 

King of Asgaard

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I'll be frank (and a lot of you will compare me to Judas, Hitler and Pol Pot because of this), I'm not a fan of Miracle of Sound. The only one of his tracks I genuinely like is Sovngarde Song, because it captures the Skyrim charm.
No offence intended towards the man, it's just his work does not impress me.
 

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SpectacularWebHead said:
Yeah, modern was a bit general. I meant like how you get all these pop stars and rappers getting in to the public eye in a huge way, and they're all untalented. Maybe they have like one good song but most of their stuff sucks. Then you get indy artsist who are most of the time better and no-one has heard of them. Which is lame.
while pop itself isn't always bad I feel like its been that way since.....forever (well a long time..generally)
 

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Hawk eye1466 said:
Ken Sapp said:
So it's all rigged I should have expected that but I never paid enough attention to the radio hell I just always plugged my ipod in and listened to music that didn't make me want to tear whoever made the ear splitting music I was listening to's teeth out.
Even the iTunes store suffers from the same problem. Most of the stuff you see on the front page is what the music companies are pushing hardest.

Yopaz said:
Ken Sapp said:
If charts are rigged and completely controlled by record companies, how come Thousand Foot Krutch charted at 14 on the USA billboard records with their newest album which was released without the aid of a record company? That album was funded entirely through Kickstarter and it earned them their highest chart position so far.
I said rigged, not completely controlled. There are exceptions to the rule and occasionally a completely independently produced band or album will make it onto the charts. The music companies don't tell Billboard what is going to be on the chart or in what place. But they know how to heavily influence what makes it there.
 

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SpectacularWebHead said:
I feel I should also point out that I haven't actually pirated any of MOS' songs, because MI6 will totally come for me in the night and bring all of their FBI buddies with them.... Humour is dangerous....
Eh, it's pretty common for people to gloss over topics. Your point was made within a few lines and the rest was waffling, in my opinion. Basically people got the gist and went to comment. I'd be surprised if anyone on this site thoroughly reads every OP in every thread they enter... that would be like severe psychological masochism if anyone did.

Also, I don't know where you learned to write humour, but you need to unlearn it... its not working for you.

But just for the sake of curiosity... what exactly was the joke? Cause "hur hur I alluded to pirating" doesn't strike me as being particularly witty.
 

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Ragsnstitches said:
SpectacularWebHead said:
I feel I should also point out that I haven't actually pirated any of MOS' songs, because MI6 will totally come for me in the night and bring all of their FBI buddies with them.... Humour is dangerous....
Eh, it's pretty common for people to gloss over topics. Your point was made within a few lines and the rest was waffling, in my opinion. Basically people got the gist and went to comment. I'd be surprised if anyone on this site thoroughly reads every OP in every thread they enter... that would be like severe psychological masochism if anyone did.

Also, I don't know where you learned to write humour, but you need to unlearn it... its not working for you.

But just for the sake of curiosity... what exactly was the joke? Cause "hur hur I alluded to pirating" doesn't strike me as being particularly witty.
What we are saying is, Sarcasm does not translate well over text
 

Ragsnstitches

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Evil Smurf said:
Ragsnstitches said:
SpectacularWebHead said:
I feel I should also point out that I haven't actually pirated any of MOS' songs, because MI6 will totally come for me in the night and bring all of their FBI buddies with them.... Humour is dangerous....
Eh, it's pretty common for people to gloss over topics. Your point was made within a few lines and the rest was waffling, in my opinion. Basically people got the gist and went to comment. I'd be surprised if anyone on this site thoroughly reads every OP in every thread they enter... that would be like severe psychological masochism if anyone did.

Also, I don't know where you learned to write humour, but you need to unlearn it... its not working for you.

But just for the sake of curiosity... what exactly was the joke? Cause "hur hur I alluded to pirating" doesn't strike me as being particularly witty.
What we are saying is, Sarcasm does not translate well over text
What purpose would sarcasm serve in that post? He was trying to promote something but threw in a completely unrelated (and damnable) comment, only to iterate that it was a "joke" at the end of the post. Now he is all butt hurt accusing people of not reading the OP entirely, but failing to establish how that quip had anything to do with the topic.

I wouldn't call it sarcasm. The post is posing a sincere question, why would anyone think that comment was anything other then sincere?

I still don't get what he was thinking when he typed that.
 

Evil Smurf

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Ragsnstitches said:
What purpose would sarcasm serve in that post? He was trying to promote something but threw in a completely unrelated (and damnable) comment, only to iterate that it was a "joke" at the end of the post. Now he is all butt hurt accusing people of not reading the OP entirely, but failing to establish how that quip had anything to do with the topic.

I wouldn't call it sarcasm. The post is posing a sincere question, why would anyone think that comment was anything other then sincere?

I still don't get what he was thinking when he typed that.
Sometimes things sound better in your head.
 

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I'm not a massive fan of miracle of sound, I think some of the songs are alright but I honestly don't think hes a good enough singer to make it 'mainstream'. Just my personal opinion!

As for malukah, she has a better chance, all it would take is for a film/advert/tv show/game to use her for a soundtrack and she could be away :p
 

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Evil Smurf said:
Ragsnstitches said:
What purpose would sarcasm serve in that post? He was trying to promote something but threw in a completely unrelated (and damnable) comment, only to iterate that it was a "joke" at the end of the post. Now he is all butt hurt accusing people of not reading the OP entirely, but failing to establish how that quip had anything to do with the topic.

I wouldn't call it sarcasm. The post is posing a sincere question, why would anyone think that comment was anything other then sincere?

I still don't get what he was thinking when he typed that.
Sometimes things sound better in your head.
I can definitely understand that, but normally people can see what you meant. The bones of the gag would still be there but the delivery (or the context) killed it. This is just a word (that is degrading to the topic he brought up) and a line with the sole purpose of saying this word wasn't meant to be taken seriously.

From my experience... a joke requires more then a single word.

Admittedly, now that I'm thinking of it, I'm laughing my ass off... not sure if this is what the OP intended though.

TopazFusion said:
Well, it's not the first time he's made a thread, and felt a backlash from forum posters, only to come back later claiming 'it was all a joke' all along (probably to save face).
Ragsnstitches said:
I still don't get what he was thinking when he typed that.
I'd say he wasn't thinking at all.
Reading his final comment on that topic makes me think charm and wit really aren't part of his character.
 

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I found the joke funny, if it's any consolation. But most people who don't realize the joke will hate you because pirating hurts artists, especially artists who self publish.

OT: I'm gonna go with the old Scott Pilgrim rule: Just because a lot of nerds love it doesn't mean the general population will.
 

The Last Nomad

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I think the way he releases music is perfect for his audience. If his songs were only available to hear in the charts, I'd never hear them.

If you're thinking he should get money for what he does, the charts are the wrong way to go.
 

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One of my cousins (girl) who despises videogames and thinks of them as mostly a waste of precious time that could be spent "having fun with friends" listened to Malufenix's Skyrim and Reignite Mass Effect songs... since then... she's a believer. What I'm trying to say is that Miracle's and Malukah's songs transcend videogames... they're more than just songs about videogames.
 

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Ken Sapp said:
Hawk eye1466 said:
Ken Sapp said:
So it's all rigged I should have expected that but I never paid enough attention to the radio hell I just always plugged my ipod in and listened to music that didn't make me want to tear whoever made the ear splitting music I was listening to's teeth out.
Even the iTunes store suffers from the same problem. Most of the stuff you see on the front page is what the music companies are pushing hardest.

Yopaz said:
Ken Sapp said:
If charts are rigged and completely controlled by record companies, how come Thousand Foot Krutch charted at 14 on the USA billboard records with their newest album which was released without the aid of a record company? That album was funded entirely through Kickstarter and it earned them their highest chart position so far.
I said rigged, not completely controlled. There are exceptions to the rule and occasionally a completely independently produced band or album will make it onto the charts. The music companies don't tell Billboard what is going to be on the chart or in what place. But they know how to heavily influence what makes it there.
So there's a chance this could work out too then with some effort?
 

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If he got mainstream'd I think we could say goodbye to the quality we like. I'm not saying that being mainstream automatically renders you uncreative, because it just doesn't, but it DOES take away your capacity for experimentation. The reason mainstream artists seem to only play the same stuff over and over again is because they're playing to their strengths. Every now and then an artist might release an experimental album, and sometimes it throws them right to the top, and sometimes it just flops embarrassingly, and it because an awkward subject in interviews forever more.

Miracle of Sound could release a song that just...flops. Maybe he'll get some hostility in the comments. Maybe he'll be told to never make music again by his fans. But we'll all still click his next song when it's ready. I think he's in a good place. To be mainstream, you need to play to personal strengths to impress an uncaring community. Right now, the community is his strength, and I think that'll show through his music.
 

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SpectacularWebHead said:
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READ THE FULL OP.
Seriously, how short are your collective attention spans? I've now highlighted it, fyi, twice, because APPARENTLY NO ONE CAN READ.
well screaming and acting the part of a child certainly isnt making you in a better light, and with how serious the site takes these matters and past experiences where people dont think its pirating because of their own moral definitions its not a subject you make a lot of jokes about.