Poll: Immortality or Death

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Marcai

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iblis666 said:
immortality so that i can perpetuate humanity through out all time, space, dimension, and reality

Marcai said:
What's amusing is that you've got quite a few moral conundrums here. For the Christians amongst you, you've taken your own life. In dying you confide yourself to hell, and for all the good you do, it will likely be the burning fires for you. Or outside of Gods grace. Whatever it is that's supposed to happen to naughty Christians.

On the other hand, is curing cancer a good thing? The last great disease of humanity, which upon its curing will lead to a population boom, virtually choking the earth under the weight of humanity, not yet ready to travel off of Holy Terra and colonise the galaxy under the Emperor... sorry, caught up in that.

Additionally, living forever will make you a sage. A liviing library. I'm an archaeologist, and what myself and my collegues would pay for a man from the past to tell us what the hell it all means. A lviing record of such things would lead to an enlightened mankind. The unparallelled knowledge held by an immortal would be stunning.

On the note of loved ones dying, you honestly think you'll not make more? How many times have you sat with that one girl and thought "she's the one", only to lose her and feel the same about another? If you have kids, yeah it'd suck immensely to see them die, but they'd live priveliged lives under the household of the Immortal, and likely be some of the smartest humans alive, thanks to your nurturing sills, perfected -like all other skills you've learned- through the course of centuries

Now I put this to you: Those of you who choose death are truly selfish, wanting your own death for a quick payoff of greatness more than the progression of humanity as a whole. You squander the greatest gift any mortal could ever recieve on your own worry that you'll be bored? The post says you can't die. Who needs to die, you can be put into dreamless sleep by future tech at the end of all things, I'm sure.
...am I looking too far into this hypothetical debate or was that Escapist standard?
in a way you could end up damning yourself either way you choose since if you choose immortality then you risk living for all of eternity outside of the presence of god which is what one interpretation of hell is
Well thats where being Atheist makes it a no-brainer to life forever! ..But my argument was hypothetically for the Christian minded soul, and so I'll try and respond. By saying you'd be without God surely is to imply that you outlive His immortal glory? I think not, surely God would remain with you for as long as you drifted and you had faith. I mean, why should the end of existance make a being from outside existance stop existing, so to speak? And ofc, all of the good you've done humanity, God would hold such a being in such high esteem, that he'd be offered peace in heaven? And if not, the Rapture doesn't "kill" people, if I recall, just takes them to heaven. Don't quote me on that one though. Also, if you cant be killed by God, call him out and duke it out eternally in the most epic battle since Goku killed Frieza. Should keep you entertained at least. Teaches Him for not letting you through the pearly gates!!

Stopping this before it becomes a religious debate though, as I said before, it was purely hypothetical.
 

iblis666

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Marcai said:
iblis666 said:
immortality so that i can perpetuate humanity through out all time, space, dimension, and reality

Marcai said:
What's amusing is that you've got quite a few moral conundrums here. For the Christians amongst you, you've taken your own life. In dying you confide yourself to hell, and for all the good you do, it will likely be the burning fires for you. Or outside of Gods grace. Whatever it is that's supposed to happen to naughty Christians.

On the other hand, is curing cancer a good thing? The last great disease of humanity, which upon its curing will lead to a population boom, virtually choking the earth under the weight of humanity, not yet ready to travel off of Holy Terra and colonise the galaxy under the Emperor... sorry, caught up in that.

Additionally, living forever will make you a sage. A liviing library. I'm an archaeologist, and what myself and my collegues would pay for a man from the past to tell us what the hell it all means. A lviing record of such things would lead to an enlightened mankind. The unparallelled knowledge held by an immortal would be stunning.

On the note of loved ones dying, you honestly think you'll not make more? How many times have you sat with that one girl and thought "she's the one", only to lose her and feel the same about another? If you have kids, yeah it'd suck immensely to see them die, but they'd live priveliged lives under the household of the Immortal, and likely be some of the smartest humans alive, thanks to your nurturing sills, perfected -like all other skills you've learned- through the course of centuries

Now I put this to you: Those of you who choose death are truly selfish, wanting your own death for a quick payoff of greatness more than the progression of humanity as a whole. You squander the greatest gift any mortal could ever recieve on your own worry that you'll be bored? The post says you can't die. Who needs to die, you can be put into dreamless sleep by future tech at the end of all things, I'm sure.
...am I looking too far into this hypothetical debate or was that Escapist standard?
in a way you could end up damning yourself either way you choose since if you choose immortality then you risk living for all of eternity outside of the presence of god which is what one interpretation of hell is
Well thats where being Atheist makes it a no-brainer to life forever! ..But my argument was hypothetically for the Christian minded soul, and so I'll try and respond. By saying you'd be without God surely is to imply that you outlive His immortal glory? I think not, surely God would remain with you for as long as you drifted and you had faith. I mean, why should the end of existance make a being from outside existance stop existing, so to speak? And ofc, all of the good you've done humanity, God would hold such a being in such high esteem, that he'd be offered peace in heaven? And if not, the Rapture doesn't "kill" people, if I recall, just takes them to heaven. Don't quote me on that one though. Also, if you cant be killed by God, call him out and duke it out eternally in the most epic battle since Goku killed Frieza. Should keep you entertained at least. Teaches Him for not letting you through the pearly gates!!

Stopping this before it becomes a religious debate though, as I said before, it was purely hypothetical.
sorry i was trying to keep it nonreligious myself since i was just trying to say that floating in nothingness for all of eternity might be like being outside the grace of god i wasnt saying that by that time god would be dead of course this is as long as there is no divine intervention but as a agnostic i can accept the possibility of divine intervention but i just dont think it any more likely than the christian gods existence.
 

TallanKhan

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Immortality. The world will go on, civilisation will develop, and the potential to explore, discover and conquor will always expand to new horizons.
 

bushwhacker2k

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Probably death, I don't know what comes after death but a chance at eternal boredom is either hell or worse than hell could ever be.
 

Gingerman

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Immortality.

For two reasons
1)Look at the sudden surge of technology, I would never get bored due to the inventions being constantly churned out, I could learn all of human knowledge and myself work tirelessly to cure illnesses and of course I could start my secret organisation and then take over the world from the shadows...

2)If I was to die and cure cancer the surge in the human population would be harmful in the long run, we're overpopulated already and that would only make it worse. Also I'm selfish in the belief that I could end up helping more people with my immortality then with my death.

(and I like me so I want to live)
 

riskroWe

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I would take immortality if the universe was static and eternal.
If not, kill me now.
 

bluepilot

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Death, because even in my early twenties, I cannot understand the acronym slang that today`s youth are learning. After about 100 years, I do not think I would be about to understand anyone anymore.

Plus eternal life brings many implications. You would probably have to change identity every 20 years are so so that no-one would catch on...especially Mr. Taxman

As the Joker put it, `I`d take on Batman any day, but the IRS? Are you KIDDING?`
 

Custard_Angel

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Death no question.

It's just common sense that as you get older time passes faster. 5 minutes is nothing to someone 20 years old but to a 2 year old its a lifetime. How about 5 minutes to a 200 year old? or 2000 year old? As you get older you'll start shrugging as weeks, months and years pass away like seconds.

You'll give up on mankind because the moment you make a connection with someone you'll realise that they'll die, you won't, and you'll be lonely again.

Theres no release. Death is the better option.

Also, I don't want to die right now, I just feel that dying at the age of 80 is better than living to the age of 800 or 8,000 or 80,000 or 8x10^n (where n > 0)