Poll: Indefinite survival during a zombie apocalypse: Logical?

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Ravenbom

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It'd be hard to organize the random 1% that are immune. They'd be all spread out in geographically separate places.
And what if the virus infects animals too? How could we farm traditionally, with beasts of burden if they're dead too? Would the zombies eat all the easy to kill cows and such?

If the zombies don't have very much cognizance, like to operate boats, the island sounds good, but only if you can organize that random 1% of people who are all targets of the billions of zombies left on the planet.


But just theoretically speaking, yeah, I think you could ride it out, because if they're tradition corpses, they should decompose at an increased rate, and I would think that rats and cockroaches would swarm them, killing the walking dead, and perhaps creating zombie rats that proliferate and overrun the world.
 

CoziestPigeon

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For starters, it would be an infestation, not invasion, unless these were something like zombies from outer space. Secondly, no zombie threads.
 

Lonan

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As we are obviously under the assumption that zombies are possible, I will start without going after that. While I didn't read the whole synopsis, (thus obviously haven't read the movie) can the zombies swim hundreds of kilometres to an island in the middle of nowhere? If they apparently can, it's on. In order for objects to move, they must have either mechanical or biological propulsion. To cut to the chase, zombies have to eat. With 99% of the world zombies, they would have to eat each other as farms would no longer produce food. In this sense, you could out last the zombies as they would not be able to sustain themselves with animals. They couldn't run around forever, as energy is conserved, being able to move around requires energy. So unless they made a huge efficient mass of zombies move towards the island, assuming they were intelligent enough to take one for the team and get eaten for the cause of whatever it is their cause is, assuming they somehow could sense humans,(direction to swim) and ate one another to keep going, thus reducing their assault numbers significantly, it would be impossible to attack people on an abandoned island in the middle of the ocean. As for supplies running out, that would depend on the islands size and the number of people there and their individual food and water requirements. If they were only in a fortress, that would pose a problem. Although, they could just run around outside gathering food, if humanity still has the capacity to fend for itself, that is. As for zombies outside, that would depend on the population in such an area. I did read a bit at the end of the synopsis that they planned to drive to Canada. Zombies would not be able to follow you far north, especially if the infection was in winter. Assuming zombies aren't intelligent enough to bundle up, they would die very quickly to freezing temperatures. If you were with a few companions armed with good guns and lots of ammunition at the top of a Canadian mountain in winter with a three weeks worth of supplies, you'd be fine. You can survive without food for three weeks, so if the zombies didn't eat each other, in three weeks they would all be gone. If they did, well, the disgusting mathematical fun begins. I have decided to remove the research I did on calories per unit of human flesh, (no one seems to be well learned on the subject for some reason) and simply say that humans have an average of 50000 calories, and that one zombie would have to be sacrificed to twenty zombies everyday. Since they are brain dead they would likely use their collective resources extrememly quickly like humans and end up all dead in slightly more then three weeks, but let us assume they do what I say for now. If we take New York, a city of 8 million (ignoring the minus 1% since it's a rough number) the zombies existence would have an extension of (I can't remember what equation to use) days on the 3 week starvation threshold, thus making New York zombie free within under 100(lets say) days. While there would surely be other food sources to increase their existence, let's say the zombies eat them first, granting them another, say ten days on their existence. In conclusion, you could ride out the zombie storm. And I hate zombie movies, fyi.
 

The Kind Cannibal

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Nomadic groups, and eventually societies, or 'clans' would be my best bet during a Z meltdown. We'd be raiders getting supplies and ammo as we scavenge them from the cites we roll through, perhaps trading for hard to find items with others. A moving target is a hard target, especially when your enemy is functionally retarded and usually slower than walking pace.

Totally plausible.
 

Abedeus

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Sewblon said:
Does the zombie virus affect animals too or just humans?
Good question. You could just wait till the zombies are eaten by bears, wolves and so on.
 

Trivun

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The Kind Cannibal said:
Nomadic groups, and eventually societies, or 'clans' would be my best bet during a Z meltdown. We'd be raiders getting supplies and ammo as we scavenge them from the cites we roll through, perhaps trading for hard to find items with others. A moving target is a hard target, especially when your enemy is functionally retarded and usually slower than walking pace.

Totally plausible.
Isn't that the plot of Resident Evil: Extinction (i.e. the third film, which was underrated in my opinion)?
 

Iron Mal

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Nothing is impossible, many things are improbable, but not impossible.

Given that the surviving %1 of humanity took the right course of action (fortify an out of the way location, start growing crops and begin repopulating the human race, if the parents are immune then so are the children) then indefinate survival wouldn't be so dfficult.
 

monalith

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lets say it only affects humans then very quickly after the zombies are created they would decompose be eaten by birds dogs cats anything really hell vultures would clean africa pretty quickly and look at it this way with only 60m people left most animal populations will grow and increase the rate of destruction of zombies plus zombies couldn't survive the bottom of the ocean the preassure would crush thier brain and being frozen and thawed would cause ice crystals to form in their body shreding their brains and muscles so we could survive and also wouldn't zombies need water to tranport neutrients (if they dont need neutrients then they would still drink water becuase eating drinking and mating are pretty much all basic needs and can zombies give birth?) so all places in large deserts should be fine i.e africa and australia.
 

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Motti said:
Just leg (or sail) it to Antarctica. You'll only have to deal with 900-odd zombies (depending on whether or not it's winter and zombies have no body heat (I assume) so they will quickly freeze anyways. Need food? There's penguins, whales, seals and krill. Lots and lots of krill. Aside from food, you can also get oil and furs from these animals which can be useful.
Ahah!!! But what if the wildlife are also Zombies? Nothing's scarier than a Zombie Walrus or a Zombie Polar Bear (a white Yao Guai, basically) in Antarctica.
 

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Yes. Very, very, very easily. In fiction zombies are supposed to be presented as a threat, and sure, they could be. Initially. But after say, a year, when all stupid and panicky people have already gotten themselves killed, the rest of the humans could easily make it.

Think of it like this. In the world, at this moment, we have enough food already produced to feed the 6 billion people on the planet. If only one percent of those people exist, food will be plentiful. VERY plentiful.

Zombies are mindless. They don't think, they don't plan. They won't overrun a fortress, correctly built, simply because they don't have the brains for it. A human body is only capable of so much force, no matter what the virus does to it. It is very easy to build a wall that is physically impossible for humans to break through without tools, no matter how many or persistent they are.

Being compeltely mindless zombies are also quite easy to kill, and wipe out. Building a sheltered community could easily be done, and then growing your own food. In piece on your own island, mountain, whatever, you can easily produce what you need and work on a cure, either something to reverse the effects, a new bio-agent that attacks and kills zombies, or simply vaccination. It would also be fully possible to be able to replicate the effects to the agree that zombies would ignore you, in the real world, or to tame the zombies.


Sure, nothing of this works in fiction, but that's because it IS fiction. The real world doesn't work like that. Hell, 99% of humanity would never get infected in the first place, but going with that number just makes it easier. There's too many of us anyway.
 

Beetlejooce

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For me the best bet would be to take to the sea. As I am fairly sure zombies can't swim or man boats. Build a Waterworld style Atoll. (if you haven't seen Waterworld, it's an awesome film)

Or just take a ship with a few people and ride the sea for a while. All you need is fishing rods and a water filter. Because on the land there is always a chance of gaps in your wall which you are going to miraculously build in a day.
 

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MaxTheReaper said:
Step A: Build huge walled fortress on top of fertile farmland, with stream nearby. Zombies cannot climb, therefore, your walls are safe. Zombies do not have kickass strength, therefore they cannot break down the walls/huge doors.
Step B: Farm.
Step C: Breed.
Step D: Wait.
Step E: Steal their underwear.
Step F: ???
Step G: Profit!

Here's my answer: yes.
BUT as someone mentioned before, you'd need to coordinate a couple of people, to prevent inbreeding. And finding a couple of immune people isn't so hard (a 2 million-people-city means 20000 immune), the hard part is finding them before the zombies do. So there should be some sort of official evacuation-plan for those who find themselves (yet) unharmed in this mess.
 

Spacelord

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I think of it this way: In Texas alone, there are more bullets than people in the world. We'll be fine.
 

Specter_

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MaxTheReaper said:
Specter_ said:
MaxTheReaper said:
Step A: Build huge walled fortress on top of fertile farmland, with stream nearby. Zombies cannot climb, therefore, your walls are safe. Zombies do not have kickass strength, therefore they cannot break down the walls/huge doors.
Step B: Farm.
Step C: Breed.
Step D: Wait.
Step E: Steal their underwear.
Step F: Sell their underwear as "Zombie proof" (the zombies didn't tear through it, now did they)
Step G: Profit!
You are a genius! You will get your share of the profit!
Unless of course you have a zombie-related accident. Which has nothing to do with the fact that I'm a greedy bastard...
 

Jamash

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SamFisher202 said:
Flying-Emu said:
Jadak said:
Flying-Emu said:
SamFisher202 said:
Stock up on ammo, and eat the zombies you kill, after cooking them as to destroy any nasty little surprises. Also being on giant island is an advantage, kill al the zombies there, rebuild society, train a powerful army. If you need more zombie jerky, get in the boat, go to the mainland, and kill more zombies to stock your reserves of meat.
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Wouldn't the virus be contained in the meat?
Aren't the 1% alive because they were immune?
Well, yes, but I can't imagine eating rotting flesh being good for you, immunity or not.
Not true, there's a man who eats rotten meat, been free from all ailments, so guess it's healthier than McDonald's.
That's beside the point. Even if eating rotting meat was ok for you, it's Zombie meat, i.e. it's human meat.

Eating the same meat as your own specifies isn't good for you at all, because of prion diseases, (prions aren't destroyed by cooking).

Eating human flesh, which zombie flesh is, will result in deterioration of the brain and central nervous system and cause severe psychiatric disorders, like the human form of mad cow disease.

The Native American legend of the Wendigo is based on truth, except cannibalism didn't result in people turning to evil spirits, it just appeared that way because anyone who eat human flesh turned bat-shit bonkers and psychotic.

If anyone's seen the film Ravenous, then they'll know eating human flesh isn't a good idea.