Poll: "Ingredients in a Chicken McNugget" or "You Want me to Eat What Now?"

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Kpt._Rob

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If my life were to be divided up into story arcs with themes, one of the two themes of this part of my life would be "what do I need to do to be healthy." While researching the answer to that question I came upon this, a list of the ingredients in a Chicken McNugget. I would like to share with you now an excerpt from the notes I took from Michael Pollan's book The Omnivore's Dilemma.

Ingredients of a Chicken McNugget said:
Of the 32 ingredients in a Chicken McNugget, thirteen can be derived from Corn: The corn fed chicken; corn starch; modified cornstarch; mono-, tri-, and diglycerides; dextrose; lecithin; chicken broth; yellow cornflower; vegetable shortening; partially hydrogenated corn oil; and citric acid. A few other plants are used as ingredients, wheat in the batter, and sometimes hydrogenated oil from soybeans, canola, or cotton is used in place of that from corn. McNuggets also contain several completely synthetic ingredients: sodium aluminum phosphate; mono-calcium phosphate; sodium acid pyrophosphate; calcium lactate; dimethylopolysiloxene (which, according to the Handbook of Food Additives, is a suspected carcinogen, as well as a confirmed mutagen, tomorigen, and reproductive effector, it is also flammable); and tertiary butylhydroquinone (TBHQ) [which, according to A Consumer's Dictionary of Food Additives, is a form of butane (lighter fluid) that the FDA allows processors to use sparingly in food: it may comprise no more than 0.02% of the oil in a nugget. Ingesting a single gram of TBHQ can cause nausea, vomiting, ringing in the ears, delirium, and a sense of "suffocation and collapse." Five grams of TBHQ can kill.] The nugget is responsible for chicken having passed beef as the most consumed meat in America.
... So now, if I may, let me pose a question. What the hell is wrong with us? Why would anyone eat this? Why would anyone think that it qualifies, even remotely, as food? Considering that statistics say that one in three American children eat fast food every day, shouldn't we be asking ourselves some serious questions like "why is it even legal to serve that to people, nonetheless to children, and on a regular basis?"

EDIT: Well, it looks like it timed out and cut my poll, sorry folks, no poll today.

EDIT 2: As a number of you have pointed out, and I must admit that perhaps you were right in saying so, that my tactics in presentation here may not have been entirely fair to McDonalds and processed foods in general (though as another poster pointed out, it's amazing how many people will come out in defense of something that's clearly as bad for you as McDonalds is). My hope had been that a conversation about the toxic food environment in America (and increasingly in other industrialized countries as well) would build from an origin of looking at what's in a Chicken McNugget.

For those of you who will do me the kindness of letting me elaborate on some of the points that I felt were implicit in pointing out all of the ingredients in a Chicken McNugget despite my conduct in presenting it, I would like to take a moment to expand a bit here on the original post.

The critique I have received here more than any other (and in the cases of a few posts, in the form of personal attacks on both my intelligence and my integrity) is that I have myself preyed on ignorance by merely pointing out that these synthetic chemicals have seemingly alien names, and at certain doses have toxic affects. That is a valid critique, but I think that implicit in the fact that these synthetic chemicals have seemingly alien names is a much more important point, that being that from an evolutionary perspective, these synthetic chemicals are genuinely alien. Nutrition on a chemical level is a blindingly complex field, because the biological processes that compose the human body are equally complex. We're talking here about mechanisms that have evolved over millions of years, and in the case of omnivorous creatures like humans, they are processes that have evolved to fuel themselves by consuming the other natural things in our habitats, plants, animals, and even some minerals. Evolution has selected for bodies that could fuel themselves with these natural things, because they were the fuel that was readily available, and by taking advantage of their availability, the human organism has thrived.

The synthetic compounds used in processed foods (I used the McNugget here because I feel that it is somewhat of a poster child for processed foods) are relatively new. The industrial food system really started to take shape around the end of WWII, and from an evolutionary perspective the foods it has produced are incredibly new. Our bodies simply were not built to be fueled with these foods. Whether or not any given chemical is genuinely harmful to the human machine is, admittedly, not something that I have the expertise to comment upon, and in implying that these chemicals are dangerous, I admittedly took an underhanded tactic. What I can say is that we simply don't know in any real sense what affect these synthetic compounds have on us. By introducing an industrial food system that is based around their consumption (as well as the consumption of massive amounts of cleverly re-arranged corn) we have begun a massive experiment on a societal level, and the outcome of this experiment would seem to indicate that some part of the industrial food process (whether it's the chemicals, the raising of food in a monoculture, the simple fact that we have made too much food available, or something else) leads to a serious decrease in the health of anyone who eats the food it produces. We do know that there is a very strong positive correlation between the consumption of processed foods and the development of diseases of affluence such as cancer and diabetes, and that there is a lot of evidence to suggest that this food has played a large roll in the obesity epidemic that has come to ravage the country that I call my home.

The real question that I'm asking here is, do the benefits of convenience and a cost that is cheap at the register really outweigh the actual toll that the industrial food system has taken on us?
 

Girl With One Eye

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I LOVE chicken nuggets!!! I don't have them from McDonalds so I'm not sure if the ingredients are the same but still....I plan on having them for dinner :)

Ok got carried away, the fact is people eat what tastes good. Hell if lighter fluid tastes good I'd probably drink it.....probably.
 

Deathsong17

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That 'qualifies' as food because MCDonalds sell it cheap and fast, so people eat it for convenience. If you want quality, don't eat at the lowest tier restaraunt.
 

rockyoumonkeys

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Ugh. I'd have been perfectly happy not knowing all that. Now that I do, I can't eat another McNugget.

So do me a favor and DON'T list all the ingredients of other food I used to like!
 

BreakfastMan

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Why do we eat it? Because it is cheap, it requires no work to prepare, and it (supposedly) tastes good. Unfortunately it is as simple as that, what with prices on healthier foods being what they are... And because McDonald's is a massive corporation, if the government were to ever try and stop this the lobbyists would swarm on D.C. and never let it pass.
 

TerribleAssassin

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We eat it because it's not branded as lighter fluid and it tastes damn good.


Not better than Sasparilla though, that's amazing.
 

the-kitchen-slayer

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Considering the other crap we do (and intake) to our bodies, i doubt mcnuggets are as harmful as, say, breathing is nowadays. With all the pollution, second hand smoke, diseases, and crap in general that's floating around in the air, there's worse we can do than eat a thing of mcnuggets.

Like smoke, I do that quite frequently. So i'll enjoy the rare mcnugget i eat knowing i put more poison in my body via inhaling what lets me keep a steady job

~edit~ btw, it's an odd day. post 69 about clevage, post 70 about food. i'mma go nap now :p
 

irongears

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SirBryghtside said:
I hate to break it to you, OP, but a lot of things are deadly if you eat too much. So 5 grams kills? Whatever. Next you'll be asking us to ban salt.
Totally agree, here, I mean really, the fact that its flammable is concerning? You mean flammable like sugar, flour, cornstarch and peanut oil? Also, really, "is a form of butane (lighter fluid)" this is pure scare tactics. Most makeup is petroleum-based, but we aren't freaking out because its "a form" of crude oil.
 

kjrubberducky

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The fact is, every ingredient has a purpose. Do you really think McDonald's puts potentially harmful ingredients in it's food for kicks? There is always a reason, from improving the texture, or giving more flavor, to simply making it easier to produce or prepare.

And if your kids eat fast food on a daily basis, you're doing it wrong.
 

x EvilErmine x

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Deathsong17 said:
That 'qualifies' as food because MCDonalds sell it cheap and fast, so people eat it for convenience. If you want quality, don't eat at the lowest tier restaraunt.
No. No. No. No. etc ad infinitum

McDonalds is NOT a restaurant. It's a fast food retailer.

In a restaurant you don't have to eat using your hands, you get some form of cutlery (knife and fork, chopsticks, whatever)
In a restaurant you get a waiter/waitress who takes your order and brings it to you.
A restaurant is a place you might take a date (If you take a girl to McD's for a date then you should be disqualified from life)
In a restaurant you don't sit on molded plastic furniture, instead you get a proper table and chairs you can move.

Other than that quite true and i agree with your comments.

kjrubberducky said:
The fact is, every ingredient has a purpose. Do you really think McDonald's puts potentially harmful ingredients in it's food for kicks? There is always a reason, from improving the texture, or giving more flavor, to simply making it easier to produce or prepare.

And if your kids eat fast food on a daily basis, you're doing it wrong.
Usually this, as most of the meat that is used is not of high quality or standard so it needs to be flavored artificially. The claim of 100% chicken breast meat is probably true, however the real truth is that they use the rejected meat that doesn't meat the standard to be sold in it the shops and raw fillets, strips etc.. SO it's not like it's B grade meat but it does need jazzing up a to taste as good as a chicken nugget undeniably (sadly) does. Also the chemicals they add are to help them to keep for longer and be easier to cook as kjrubberducky said.
 

bpm195

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Personally I don't care about something having milligram of a substance which would be inconvenient if I ate 100 times as much or fatal if I 500 times as much.

Though for some bizzare reason Chicken McNuggets have made me violently ill ever since they started making them out of white meat. It's the only food I've ever had that consistently makes me ill.
 

Hazzaslagga

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damn i'm hungry after reading this.
In any case I don't eat them often (I go months inbetween) and so i don't care that much.
 

antidonkey

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x EvilErmine x said:
No. No. No. No. etc ad infinitum

McDonalds is NOT a restaurant. It's a fast food retailer.

In a restaurant you don't have to eat using your hands, you get some form of cutlery (knife and fork, chopsticks, whatever)
In a restaurant you get a waiter/waitress who takes your order and brings it to you.
A restaurant is a place you might take a date (If you take a girl to McD's for a date then you should be disqualified from life)
In a restaurant you don't sit on molded plastic furniture, instead you get a proper table and chairs you can move.

Other than that quite true and i agree with your comments.
You really should look up the definition of restaurant.
 

Jark212

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Ever wonder what your Mcnuggets really look like before there dyed?

 

Baby Tea

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SirBryghtside said:
I hate to break it to you, OP, but a lot of things are deadly if you eat too much. So 5 grams kills? Whatever. Next you'll be asking us to ban salt.
No joke.
That's like when people say that margarine is 1 molecule away form plastic. As if that even makes sense! Wouldn't water be 1 molecule away from just 2 parts hydrogen?

Seriously, scare tactics and sensationalism like this always make me laugh.