irongears said:
SirBryghtside said:
I hate to break it to you, OP, but a lot of things are deadly if you eat too much. So 5 grams kills? Whatever. Next you'll be asking us to ban salt.
Totally agree, here, I mean really, the fact that its flammable is concerning? You mean flammable like sugar, flour, cornstarch and peanut oil? Also, really, "is
a form of butane (lighter fluid)" this is pure scare tactics. Most makeup is petroleum-based, but we aren't freaking out because its "a form" of crude oil.
Well, here's the difference, people don't put makeup
in their bodies. And yes, plenty of things are deadly if you eat too much, but your body hasn't evolved to know how to deal with these chemicals, which means that they get stored in fat cells where they build up. We evolved in relationship to the foods that we eat over however many millions of years, but the diet that we consume now has been drastically changed over the course of the past fifty years. We know for a fact that the high rates of cancer, diabetes, and other diseases of affluence that have become so common in the US and in other industrialized countries have a very strong positive correlation with the consumption of processed foods.
kjrubberducky said:
The fact is, every ingredient has a purpose. Do you really think McDonald's puts potentially harmful ingredients in it's food for kicks? There is always a reason, from improving the texture, or giving more flavor, to simply making it easier to produce or prepare.
I think what I'm asking here, is: does the benefit of improving texture, giving more flavor, or making things easier" justify adding poisonous chemicals to our foods, even if it is in small amounts? I would contend that it doesn't. Surprisingly little research has been done on the affects that these chemicals can have on the human body when ingested in small amounts over a larger period of time. It's true that I can't say for certain that these specific chemicals cause harm (though there's no doubt that the nugget as a whole will cause harm), but at the same time it also can not be said that these chemicals don't cause harm. When you consider then that we're feeding untested chemical compounds to an entire society of people who may be slowly building them up in their bodies, it's really quite a serious issue. We, as a people, are taking a gamble with some truly frightening odds.
BreakfastMan said:
Why do we eat it? Because it is cheap, it requires no work to prepare, and it (supposedly) tastes good. Unfortunately it is as simple as that, what with prices on healthier foods being what they are... And because McDonald's is a massive corporation, if the government were to ever try and stop this the lobbyists would swarm on D.C. and never let it pass.
The fact that it's cheap is an illusion, the only place that it's cheap is at the register. The entire industrial food system is based around corn, all industrial meat comes from corn fed animals (most of which shouldn't be eating corn), and outside of the corn fed meat are the many compounds added during processing (particularly HFCS) which are made from corn. But
the corn that it's all made of is sold below the cost of production because it's been heavily subsidized with taxpayer money. Add to that the cost of repairing the damage to the soil caused by raising corn in a monoculture, the cost of the fossil fuels (and the toll they take on the environment) used both to create NPK fertilizers and to transport the corn, the corn fed animals, and the other corn products. Then factor in the cost of the health related issues created by industrialized food, costs which you don't pay at the register, but instead pay later in life. All these things, and honestly a couple others as well, are costs that you don't pay at the register, but they're an integral part of the actual cost of a Chicken McNugget; you're actually looking at a pretty expensive way to slowly poison yourself. People are, of course, free to disagree with me, but the fact that these costs are not made clear at the time of purchase seems like fraud to me, people think they're buying chicken, but they're not.