Poll: "Ingredients in a Chicken McNugget" or "You Want me to Eat What Now?"

[ANImaniac89]

Dude unless you told me that they made their foods out of people your not going to convince people to stop eating fast food.

We all saw Super-size me and We all know that the shits not good for the human body, that doesn't stop people from eating it.

luckily I can't self destruct this way as I am one who can't eat that shit more then twice a week for fear of my guts liquefying and dripping out of me (I'm not joking one week I ate McDonald's every day for breakfast and by the weekend I had lost 10 pounds the painful way.........never again).

now I eat Fast food maybe once or twice a mouth (not counting ordering Chinese food which I also rarely do anymore) and when I do eat Fast food its usually Burger King (I'm not saying that its any better then McDonald it just a matter of taste)

 

[A Pious Cultist]

Don't their fries also qualify as a plastic? I'm sure I've read that somewhere.

You probably did but its still bollocks. I give my thanks to the person who brought up Dihydrogen Monoxide, the overuse of that is annoying but it was pretty appropriate here.

There's no such thing as a truely artificial ingredient and something being natural definitely doesnt make it healthier. I'd rather eat a few grams of preservatives over my life than eat a ton of food that has gone off and suffer through the resulting food poisoning.

 

[Treblaine]

This just in, the FDA says that almost 80% of burger flippers spit on one in five burgers, pee in the frying oil, and wash their hands only after directly handling their junk. ..it's fast food, your options are, enjoy nasty unhealthy shit that takes seconds to create, or wait an hour for something that probably wasn't cooked by a greasy, moody, dick getting paid minimum wage with all the reasons in the world to hate you for making them actually do something.

I agree, though I never did any of the gross stuff or saw anyone else doing it i hated every moment past the initial novelty stage in McDonalds being payed slightly over minimum wage (UK) to do the job of at least 2 or 3 people at once was utter hell there were times when i had to cook the burgers, chicken and special orders by myself as well as clean up after the breakfast menu *shudder*

Here is how messed up one of my trips to McDonalds was. So I get my food, I sit down, and I'm eating, I don't care whats in it, the guys in back are probably too busy to spit in my food, what with is being the lunch rush and all. So out of nowhere the guy flipping burgers does a front flip (not really) over the counter with a cell phone to his ear and says "I'll be right there" at which point another guy who was not working at McDonalds (not in uniform, no name tag, why he was back behind the counter I have no idea) comes up to the manager, some 20 year old girl, and says that the cook's mother has been hurt and he has to go to the hospital and asks to fill in. Now as I said the guy didn't work there, but the manager was just like "sure, go for it" and went back to talking to this group of girls by the door. ...WTF, I'm hoping that it's just my McDonalds, but god damn, does any fast food place just go "sure, our cooks out at the moment, get back there even though I have no idea what you're capable of"? Made me glad I got my food before that guy had to leave.

What the fuck?

Are you ACTUALLY EXPECTING the manager to tell this guy to get back to work after learning his mother was injured in hospital?

Are you incredibly callous or just so prejudiced against McDonald's it defies all mental faculties?

Hell if the manager had told him to say you could have been like:

"ooooh, McDevil is soo EEEEEVIL! This chef's Mom was dying in hospital and forced him to go back to work. Grrr, hate McDonalds so much!"

Though you did say:
"and says that the cook's mother has been hurt and he has to go to the hospital and asks to fill in."

It is bloody obvious he worked there but just was not in his uniform yet. How could you possibly know he definitely did not work there. The fact that you said he "asks to fill in" is clearly a term for when someone else from WITHIN AN ORGANISATION does the same job even though they are not scheduled to that time though does it anyway. Not some random stranger from off the street, why would you even think that.

Oh. God. This thread. Why? What is wrong with escapist today?!?

 

[Baby Tea]

I hate to break it to you, OP, but a lot of things are deadly if you eat too much. So 5 grams kills? Whatever. Next you'll be asking us to ban salt.

No joke.
That's like when people say that margarine is 1 molecule away form plastic. As if that even makes sense! Wouldn't water be 1 molecule away from just 2 parts hydrogen?

Seriously, scare tactics and sensationalism like this always make me laugh.

I'll avoid anything that causes damage to reproduction.

2 parts hydrogen? Do you mean two parts oxygen?

Whoops! My bad.
Lemme fix that...

 

[SimuLord]

Don't their fries also qualify as a plastic? I'm sure I've read that somewhere.

Even Eric Schlosser (Fast Food Nation) doesn't spout that. "I read that somewhere" usually means you've read some bullshit that anyone with some HTML ability and $10 to buy a domain name can put up as a "watchdog site".

 

[KingGolem]

Yeah, I read a Popular Science article about all the harsh chemicals that we get from our environment. Let me sum it up for you: "Want to be rid of carcinogens and toxins? Too bad!" That's right, too bad. I eat at least twice that much poison for breakfast, and so do you. There's poison in water bottles, in hand lotion, in aerosol cans, in charred meat, and now we know it's in McNuggets. Whoop-de-do. Like I was going to stop eating those.

 

[Kpt._Rob]

Yeah, I read a Popular Science article about all the harsh chemicals that we get from our environment. Let me sum it up for you: "Want to be rid of carcinogens and toxins? Too bad!" That's right, too bad. I eat at least twice that much poison for breakfast, and so do you. There's poison in water bottles, in hand lotion, in aerosol cans, in charred meat, and now we know it's in McNuggets. Whoop-de-do. Like I was going to stop eating those.

How has this attitude of learned helplessness become so prevalent? This stuff is really important, do we care so little that we'll sit back and poison ourselves just because the other options aren't as convenient? Sure, if I were swimming in the middle of a lake it might seem inconvenient to have to keep swimming, but that doesn't mean I would stop. The rewards of avoiding the path of apathy do pay off.

 

[PinkiePyro]

good thing i already avoid mc donalds at all costs already I am not a big chicken consumer eather i like burgers but i prefer going to steak and shake ( local fast food chain ) or if im not pressed for time the local pub than the grease and additive bombs Mc donalds churns out

 

[KorLeonis]

~SNIP~

Doing a little bit more research, as of April 1, 2010, dimethylpolisiloxane is limited to 10 parts per million by the FDA, which is approximately 1.5mg/kg (see first link). This is 1/667th the 'inconclusive' level, so even if each McNugget contained the 1.5mg FDA limit, you'd have to consume 667 of them (in less than 3 days) to reach that point if you weighed 100kg (220 lbs). This is approximately 10.5kg (23lbs) of McNuggets, and half that for someone 110 lbs, of course. So you just need to eat a tenth your weight in McNuggets in 3 days.

A tenth of my weight in McNuggets in 3 days, eh? Now that's a challenge I can get behind.
165 lbs = 16.5lbs of nuggets that would be 5.5lbs per day or 1.83lbs per meal (assuming 3 meals a day). Sounds tough but I think I could pull it off. Anyone care to sponsor me? Not sure if I can scrape together the funds for that alone.

 

[deckai]

Ever wonder what your Mcnuggets really look like before there dyed?

Spoiler: Answer

Well, that's some tasty looking ice-cream...eh...wait


And to stay on topic:

Pretty everything that we eat today has some kind of chemicals in it, and nearly everyone of these is unhealthy or even deadly if handled wrong. Well, even natural food, has ingredients that may kill you or cause harm if consumed in huge/wrong quantities (i.e. Salt or the infamous DHMO).

The important thing is to have a balanced diet, and fast food is absolutely never remotely balanced... never.. but the occasional visit won't kill you.

 

[Kpt._Rob]

Yeah, I read a Popular Science article about all the harsh chemicals that we get from our environment. Let me sum it up for you: "Want to be rid of carcinogens and toxins? Too bad!" That's right, too bad. I eat at least twice that much poison for breakfast, and so do you. There's poison in water bottles, in hand lotion, in aerosol cans, in charred meat, and now we know it's in McNuggets. Whoop-de-do. Like I was going to stop eating those.

How has this attitude of learned helplessness become so prevalent? This stuff is really important, do we care so little that we'll just sit back and poison ourselves just because the other options aren't as convenient? Sure, if I were swimming in the middle of a lake it might seem inconvenient to have to keep swimming, but that doesn't mean I would stop. The rewards of avoiding the path of apathy do pay off.

But the poisons of the universe are everywhere, you can die by eating too much of anything, it doesn't matter if we all eat healthy foods or not, it's like saying you would keep swimming even if you were in the middle of the ocean, surrounded by sharks while the rest of the world dies slowly due to a zombie virus, there isn't shit you can do, it's no apathy, it's just, why waste time worrying about something that you can do nothing about?

Yes, but eating healthier pays off in that better health means a longer higher quality life. By eating healthy you literally get more. Of course you still die eventually, but that's no reason to die sooner than later. By taking that attitude you've made the ideal the enemy of the good. We can't have a perfect world completely free of poison, but shouldn't we at least strive for a better world with less poison? If you're going to put the effort into living in the first place, then shouldn't you do what you must to make it the best life possible? Life is so rare in the greater scheme of things, we, as sentient beings, are unbelievably fortunate. Why squander it when we have other options?

 

[XT inc]

If it tastes good eat it regardless, Unless it kills you on the spot. Even then if it was the best tasting thing ever.

 

[Krion_Vark]

*SNIP*

The ACTUAL question is why the hell did you choose McDonald's as the food to point out all the unhealthy things in. Hell go watch the movie King Corn. Yes its about corn. But its actually about growing corn and what happens to that corn and families that have been growing corn all their life its actually really good. Corn is a derivative for almost EVERYTHING that we eat now since its so cheap to make and making it into things is even cheaper.

 

[Kpt._Rob]

Yeah, I read a Popular Science article about all the harsh chemicals that we get from our environment. Let me sum it up for you: "Want to be rid of carcinogens and toxins? Too bad!" That's right, too bad. I eat at least twice that much poison for breakfast, and so do you. There's poison in water bottles, in hand lotion, in aerosol cans, in charred meat, and now we know it's in McNuggets. Whoop-de-do. Like I was going to stop eating those.

How has this attitude of learned helplessness become so prevalent? This stuff is really important, do we care so little that we'll sit back and poison ourselves just because the other options aren't as convenient? Sure, if I were swimming in the middle of a lake it might seem inconvenient to have to keep swimming, but that doesn't mean I would stop. The rewards of avoiding the path of apathy do pay off.

Most people have more important things to worry about than what the latest unverified fearmongering some book author, blogger, or media outlet is pulling to profit from. If there's confirmed information from scientific studies that amend the prior ones upon which the current policy is based upon, then let us make those changes. If no studies are being done, then let those who are concerned fund, or make requests of public agencies to fund, the new studies.

Everyone is free to have their opinion. They are also free to have no opinion. I'll go with the latter until such time as I am presented with sufficient proof one way or another; proof not present in the post you started this thread with.

 

[Kpt._Rob]

*SNIP*

The ACTUAL question is why the hell did you choose McDonald's as the food to point out all the unhealthy things in. Hell go watch the movie King Corn. Yes its about corn. But its actually about growing corn and what happens to that corn and families that have been growing corn all their life its actually really good. Corn is a derivative for almost EVERYTHING that we eat now since its so cheap to make and making it into things is even cheaper.

I've already seen King Corn actually, and you're certainly right in saying that corn is very much a part of the problems we face, since the monocultures of corn are used as the basis for the entire industrialized food system. If you want to know why I went with McDonalds, you might note for starters that I explicitly stated in the note that began this whole ordeal of a thread that thirteen of the thirty-two ingredients in a McNugget are derived from corn. Or, I could perhaps excerpt another piece from the notes I took from Pollan's book:

An analysis of items from McDonalds showing how much of the carbon in each came from corn is as follows: soda (100% corn), milk shake (78%), salad dressing (65%), chicken nuggets (56%), cheeseburger (52%), French fries (23%)