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JoJo said:
Hey, the reptilians get a bad rap from the SJWs who control the media but they've actually done a lot of good things for us mere humans, the odd blood sacrifice is surely an acceptable price to pay for their glorious rule :p
I can't believe this appeasement bullcrap. I'm never rolling Argonian again!
 

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Another one?! Well okay.
Don't really see the point in yet more Royals, seeings how there's no chance in hell those kids will live long enough to get the crown if the Queen's age is anything to go by.
 

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RiseOfTheWhiteWolf said:
I spent close to 10 years living in Britain and during this time, I learned to at least understand why the British love certain things that puzzle the outside world so much (marmite, Radio Times, public rights of way, that kind of thing).

One thing I will never understand, no matter how long I spend there, is why any single person in Britain gives the slightest fraction of a fuck about anything relating to the royal family. The sense in it has always alluded me because even when I looked hard, I couldn't find a single thing that made the royal family relevant to anything meaningful. Its not the middle ages any more. And thank fuck for that.
I think most of us don't.
To most Britons, the royal family are a privileged bunch that exist primarily to help bring in tourism.
Myself, I don't have anything against them personally but at the same time any news related to them goes in one ear and straight out the other.
 

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Like America and the term "Freedom" we don't really understand why we're so obsessed with it, but its a good reason as any to kill another person or steal their shit.
 
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albino boo said:
As per normal shouty liberals don't know what they are talking. The royal family has no political power, royal prerogative is devolved to the prime minister and is the fundamental source is the prime minister's power. It may have escaped your notice the monarch is the head of the Church of England and guess what its kind of difficult to have a catholic as the head of a protestant church.
No political powers?
Almost all of those you list are ceremonial and non-political in the sense that she doesn't have the ability to exercise any 'power'. For instance, although the Queen (Sovereign) can technically prorogue Parliament, she only dismisses Parliament according to ceremony and on its own terms -- if she were to actually try to dismiss Parliament whilst it was sitting then no one would listen. Again, although she's the "Commander-in-Chief", the Prime Minister and military top-brass lead the Armed Forces. She has the *final say* on knighthoods and peerages, but frankly I doubt whether there has been a single instance in which she's disagreed with the nominations of the Prime Minister of the time.
 

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Knight Captain Kerr said:
albino boo said:
As per normal shouty liberals don't know what they are talking. The royal family has no political power, royal prerogative is devolved to the prime minister and is the fundamental source is the prime minister's power. It may have escaped your notice the monarch is the head of the Church of England and guess what its kind of difficult to have a catholic as the head of a protestant church.
No political powers?
Summoning/Proroguing Parliament ? The Queen has the power to prorogue (suspend) and to summon (call back) Parliament ? prorogation typically happens at the end of a parliamentary session and the summoning occurs shortly after, when The Queen attends the State Opening of Parliament.
Royal Assent ? It is The Queen?s right and responsibility to grant assent to bills from Parliament, signing them into law. Whilst in theory she could decide to refuse assent, the last Monarch to do this was Queen Anne in 1708.
Secondary Legislation ? The Queen can create Orders-in-Council and Letters Patent which regulate parts to do with the Crown, such as precedence, titles. Orders in Council are often used by Ministers nowadays to bring Acts of Parliament into law.
Appoint/Remove Ministers ? Her Majesty also has the power to appoint and remove Ministers of the Crown.
Appointing the Prime Minister ? The Queen is responsible for appointing the Prime Minister after a general election or a resignation, in a General Election The Queen will appoint the candidate who is likely to have the most support of the House of Commons. In the event of a resignation, The Queen listens to advice on who should be appointed as their successor.
Declaration of War ? The Sovereign retains the power to declare war against other nations, though in practice this is done through the Prime Minister and Parliament of the day.
Freedom From Prosecution ? Under British law, The Queen is above the law and cannot be prosecuted ? she is also free from civil action.
Judicial Powers
The Queen?s judicial powers are now very minimal and there is only really one which is used on a regular basis, with others having been delegated to judges and parliament through time.

Royal Pardon ? The Royal Pardon was originally used to retract death sentences against those wrongly convicted. It is now used to correct errors in sentencing and was recently used to give a posthumous pardon to WW2 codebreaker, Alan Turing.
Armed Forces
The Queen?s powers in the Armed Forces are usually used on the advice of Generals and Parliament, though some functions are retained by The Queen herself nowadays.

Commander-in-Chief ? The Queen is commander-in-chief of the Armed Forces and all members swear an oath of allegiance to The Queen when they join; they are Her Majesty?s Armed Forces.
Commissioning of Officers ? The Queen?s powers include the commissioning of officers into the Armed Forces and also removing commissions (when members of the Armed Forces salute and officer, they are saluting The Queen?s commission).
Disposition of the Forces ? The organisation and disposition of the Armed Forces are part of the Royal Prerogative; the crown technically controls how the Armed Forces are used.
Honours
One of the main prerogative powers that are still used personally by The Queen these days is the power to grant honours. As all honours derive from the Crown, The Queen has the final say on knighthoods, peerages and the like.

Creation of Peerages ? The Queen may create a peerage for any person ? whether a life peerage or hereditary one, though hereditary peerages haven?t been issued for decades outside of the Royal Family.
Font of Honour ? It is The Queen?s prerogative power to create orders of knighthood and to grant any citizen honours. From the Royal Victorian Order to the Order of the Garter.
Miscellaneous Powers
Other powers Her Majesty holds include:

Control of Passports ? The issuing and withdrawal of passports are within the Royal Prerogative ? this is often used by ministers on behalf of The Queen. All British passports are issued in The Queen?s name.
Requisitioning of Ships ? This power allows a ship to be commandeered in Her Majesty?s name for service to the realm. This power was used on the QE2 to take troops to the Falklands after the Argentine invasion in 1982.

Source [http://royalcentral.co.uk/blogs/explanation/what-are-the-queens-powers-22069]
The ability to declare war? The power to suspend parliament? Literally above the law? That doesn't seem like nothing. That seems like political powers given to someone that put them above other people due to circumstance of birth.

She may not act on her power but that doesn't mean she doesn't have it. Lack of separation between church and state isn't a good thing.

All this said, The Monarchy is mostly harmless and absolution of Monarchy (while something I think should happen) doesn't seem like a fight worth fighting.
Actually, the fact that she doesn't act on her power kind of does mean she doesn't have it. Political power is entirely in the hands of the people who we believe have political power, and if a monarch ever tried to use any kind of power she might legally speaking have the entire country would just be mildly bemused and ignore it. Maybe in the worse case scenario we'd actually bother to remove the power, or the monarch.

In reality all the queen does is provide our country with a ton of revenue, both from the royal lands (the profits from which are voluntarily given away), and from tourism. The monarchy isn't just mostly harmless, it's actively profitable for the country to maintain.

OT: ... Uh... Meh. I got nothin'. I wish the news would move on from this already.
 

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RiseOfTheWhiteWolf said:
I spent close to 10 years living in Britain and during this time, I learned to at least understand why the British love certain things that puzzle the outside world so much (marmite, Radio Times, public rights of way, that kind of thing).

One thing I will never understand, no matter how long I spend there, is why any single person in Britain gives the slightest fraction of a fuck about anything relating to the royal family. The sense in it has always alluded me because even when I looked hard, I couldn't find a single thing that made the royal family relevant to anything meaningful. Its not the middle ages any more. And thank fuck for that.
It's the same way in the USA too. People make a big deal about the royal family and it makes me wonder why. Only thing I can think of is that the USA never really had a monarchy and maybe that's why people over here are so interested in them. I can't really find anything meaningful about them either. Honestly I almost consider them the UK's version of the Kardashians.
 

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Didn't they have a kid like a year ago? Kinda feel bad for those kids, their entire lives will be put under the microscope by a population they have no real power over.
 

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RiseOfTheWhiteWolf said:
I spent close to 10 years living in Britain and during this time, I learned to at least understand why the British love certain things that puzzle the outside world so much (marmite, Radio Times, public rights of way, that kind of thing).

One thing I will never understand, no matter how long I spend there, is why any single person in Britain gives the slightest fraction of a fuck about anything relating to the royal family. The sense in it has always alluded me because even when I looked hard, I couldn't find a single thing that made the royal family relevant to anything meaningful. Its not the middle ages any more. And thank fuck for that.
I think most of us don't.
To most Britons, the royal family are a privileged bunch that exist primarily to help bring in tourism.
Myself, I don't have anything against them personally but at the same time any news related to them goes in one ear and straight out the other.
See here's the thing, while I would love to believe that most people don't give that much of a fuck about a family that are essentially celebrities (except they are the literal embodiment of the British class system's refusal to die) in the list of the top 10 most popular BBC news articles atm, 5 of them are about the baby. A couple of hours ago, 4 of the top 5 were.
People do still care about this stuff (even though I agree that I'm not entirely sure why)
 

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Dalek Caan said:
Didn't they have a kid like a year ago? Kinda feel bad for those kids, their entire lives will be put under the microscope by a population they have no real power over.
A few months ago. His name was George. It was very efficient, as I understand; jibber jibber oink and there's your kid.
 

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There's far less love for the royals up North, I assure you. As far as I'm concerned, the royal family are essentially just a family on the dole, except that their dole is of millions, and not cut down by the bloody Tories.
 

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Missing the "I don't give a fuck" option.
This, don't people give birth over there every day? Didn't they name this one Diana?

edited: made a joke that might've gone a bit too far
 

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I remember when their son was born someone showed me this [http://i.imgur.com/675x4Fb.png], which I found slightly bemusing, especially the ones implying that she'd 'let feminism down' by having a male child, as if she had some way of controlling the baby's sex, and chose to have a boy. So when I heard she was pregnant again, I found myself hoping it'd be a girl, just out of morbid curiosity to see if the same reaction would take place.

Apart from that I don't have any strong feelings either way. Despite (or perhaps because of) being British, I don't really get the appeal of the royal family, but nor do I have any particular negative feelings towards them.
 

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doggy go 7 said:
carlsberg export said:
RiseOfTheWhiteWolf said:
I spent close to 10 years living in Britain and during this time, I learned to at least understand why the British love certain things that puzzle the outside world so much (marmite, Radio Times, public rights of way, that kind of thing).

One thing I will never understand, no matter how long I spend there, is why any single person in Britain gives the slightest fraction of a fuck about anything relating to the royal family. The sense in it has always alluded me because even when I looked hard, I couldn't find a single thing that made the royal family relevant to anything meaningful. Its not the middle ages any more. And thank fuck for that.
I think most of us don't.
To most Britons, the royal family are a privileged bunch that exist primarily to help bring in tourism.
Myself, I don't have anything against them personally but at the same time any news related to them goes in one ear and straight out the other.
See here's the thing, while I would love to believe that most people don't give that much of a fuck about a family that are essentially celebrities (except they are the literal embodiment of the British class system's refusal to die) in the list of the top 10 most popular BBC news articles atm, 5 of them are about the baby. A couple of hours ago, 4 of the top 5 were.
People do still care about this stuff (even though I agree that I'm not entirely sure why)
Dunno mate, I guess that's how the media works though right?
Reporter A:'hey guys something important is going on over in X country!'
Reporter B:'sorry friend, just caught a hell of a scoop! some celebrity has said/done something!!'
Reporter A: 'Oh-em-gee!!!'
 

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Pluvia said:
Lilani said:
Perhaps it's just because I'm a ragamuffin of a yankee, but I think it's really cool that they still have the traditional posts and people involved with the royal family, like the town crier.

Like, it's 2015, and what he's wearing is the REAL livery of the town crier, not some costume or reproduction. And he's carrying out a REAL duty assigned to him by a REAL royal "court." That is cool to me. Though I would like to know what papers he's got in that random laminated pouch hanging around his neck. And I was hoping for a girl, though perhaps I'm a bit biased in that regard.
No he's unofficial [http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-32562117].

He's just some dude in a costume that turned up.
Oh poo. That's disappointing. Oh well, thanks for telling me anyway, lol.
 

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Frankly, I like our royal family.

Besides them being a tangible link to our past, I have nothing but pride in most of them; tell me a single Brit who doesn't know of Henry VIII and his insanity? Queen Victoria was said to be extremely fair to many of her subjects, despite (and look at the French and Spanish colonies) not needing to. During World War 2, it is Queen Elizabeth II who provided a point of unity for the British.

It's a single point that every British person has in common; like them or not, she is our Queen. Which means when all is said and done, the other Brits are my comrades and brothers.

Unlike many politicians, at least our royal family seem to love this country.

Silentpony said:
Another one?! Well okay.
Don't really see the point in yet more Royals, seeings how there's no chance in hell those kids will live long enough to get the crown if the Queen's age is anything to go by.
Personally, I believe she is living just long enough for Charles to die, out of spite. Then we may have William and Kate as king and queen; I wonder what he'll name himself?

ambitiousmould said:
There's far less love for the royals up North, I assure you. As far as I'm concerned, the royal family are essentially just a family on the dole, except that their dole is of millions, and not cut down by the bloody Tories.
Well, Cameron is related to them. What kind of heartless monster do you think he is?

But seriously, the Royal Family loan their land to the government (worth £300 million per year) and get back only £60 million per year, as well as the massive tourism money they bring in.

Finally, it's a part of our living history; the longest line of monarchs in the world. I'm proud of that, a living line from our beginnings to now (if you ignore the occasional murderfest Game of Thrones would be jealous of).

Pluvia said:
Lilani said:
Perhaps it's just because I'm a ragamuffin of a yankee, but I think it's really cool that they still have the traditional posts and people involved with the royal family, like the town crier.

Like, it's 2015, and what he's wearing is the REAL livery of the town crier, not some costume or reproduction. And he's carrying out a REAL duty assigned to him by a REAL royal "court." That is cool to me. Though I would like to know what papers he's got in that random laminated pouch hanging around his neck. And I was hoping for a girl, though perhaps I'm a bit biased in that regard.
No he's unofficial [http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-32562117].

He's just some dude in a costume that turned up.
Then we should MAKE him official!

Knight Captain Kerr said:
My thoughts? Nice for them but monarchy should still be abolished, it should have been abolished a long time ago. It's a stupid concept. Why should this person get political power just because of circumstance of birth? Because centuries ago their ancestor was the head of some tribe? Screw that.

Anyway if divine right of kings was that important then James II wouldn't have been gotten rid of by William of Orange and his son would have gone on to be King. Catholics and people who marry Catholics are still disqualified from the line of succession. That hardly seems fair. Could you imagine not letting people hold any other type of political office due to their religion or lack there of? There would be outrage.
You mean like America, where several states don't let people hold political office if they are not Christian?

Or like many other countries like China, where you must have NO religion at all? Or the Muslim countries, where you must be Muslim? What about Isreal? I wonder if they'd allow a non-Jew in?

Secondly, you call yourself "Knight Captain"; since the monarchy is so shameful, perhaps change that?

The idea about people getting the throne via killing is effectively holy mandate; God has decided the next person is more worthy to lead and has chosen him. Similar to the Chinese Mandate of Heaven.